paapiman Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Warning: Sexually explicit material below. Daas will kindly request sangat, below the age of 25 or people who are greatly affected by Lust, to stay away from this discussion. Please read the Charitar: Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 This one is not sexual either 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tva prasad Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 This charitar could be used to highlight how a woman's deception surpasses that of a man. The goldsmith was known as a swindler, yet the woman still invited him to her house, this shows that the actions of a woman are not easily predicted. Thus, planting doubt in the Raja's mind against his wife. The goldsmith was known as a swindler, his disagreeable character was out in the open, people knew of it. However, the character of the woman was not know, yet she deceived even a man claimed by all to be a swindler. This shows that women are better at hiding their immoral traits than men, thus outlining that there is more than a reasonable doubt that the queen, from the original story, may be guilty and the prince not. The woman from the tale had manipulated the man, crying fake tears while easily countering his deception with little cognitive effort on her part. In this way the minister shows the king that the queen is manipulating him with the use of emotions. Through the last two lines, "A woman laden with vile Charitars remains vile-proof. One who can deceive the rulers, cannot be swindled", the minister quite cleverly makes the Raja realise that a woman is quite capable in deceiving rulers, therefore causing the Raja to think logically and reasonably. He artfully tries to make the King take the right decision. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 ਚੌਪਈ ॥ ਏਕ ਲਹੌਰ ਸੁਨਾਰੋ ਰਹੈ ॥ ਅਤਿ ਤਸਕਰ ਤਾ ਕੋ ਜਗ ਕਹੈ ॥ ਸਾਹੁ ਤ੍ਰਿਯਾ ਤਾ ਕੋ ਸੁਨਿ ਪਾਯੋ ॥ ਘਾਟ ਗੜਨ ਹਿਤ ਤਾਹਿ ਬੁਲਾਯੋ ॥੧॥ ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥ ਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਪ੍ਰਭਾ ਤ੍ਰਿਯ ਸਾਹੁ ਕੀ ਜੈਮਲ ਨਾਮ ਸੁਨਾਰ ॥ ਘਾਟ ਘੜਤ ਭਯੋ ਸ੍ਵਰਨ ਕੋ ਤਵਨ ਤ੍ਰਿਯਾ ਕੇ ਦ੍ਵਾਰ ॥੨॥ ਚੌਪਈ ॥ ਜੌਨ ਸੁਨਾਰੋ ਘਾਤ ਲਗਾਵੈ ॥ ਤਵਨੈ ਘਾਤ ਤ੍ਰਿਯਾ ਲਖਿ ਜਾਵੈ ॥ ਏਕ ਉਪਾਇ ਚਲਨ ਨਹਿ ਦੇਈ ॥ ਗ੍ਰਿਹ ਕੋ ਧਨ ਮਮ ਹਰ ਨਹਿ ਲੇਈ ॥੩॥ ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥ ਕੋਰਿ ਜਤਨ ਸਠ ਕਰ ਰਹਿਯੋ ਕਛੂ ਨ ਚਲਿਯੋ ਉਪਾਇ ॥ ਆਪਨ ਸੁਤ ਕੋ ਨਾਮ ਲੈ ਰੋਦਨੁ ਕਿਯੋ ਬਨਾਇ ॥੪॥ ਚੌਪਈ ॥ ਬੰਦਨ ਨਾਮ ਪੁਤ੍ਰ ਹੌਂ ਮਰਿਯੋ ॥ ਮੇਰੇ ਸਕਲੋ ਸੁਖ ਬਿਧਿ ਹਰਿਯੋ ॥ ਜੋ ਕਹਿ ਮੂੰਡ ਧਰਨਿ ਪਰ ਮਾਰਿਯੋ ॥ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਹਿਯ ਦੁਖਤ ਪੁਕਾਰਿਯੋ ॥੫॥ ਏਕ ਪੁਤ੍ਰ ਤਾਹੂ ਕੋ ਮਾਰਿਯੋ ॥ ਸੋ ਚਿਤਾਰਿ ਤਿਨ ਰੋਦਨ ਕਰਿਯੋ ॥ ਤਬ ਹੀ ਘਾਤ ਸੁਨਾਰੇ ਪਾਯੋ ॥ ਨਾਲ ਬੀਚ ਕਰ ਸ੍ਵਰਨ ਚੁਰਾਯੋ ॥੬॥ ਤਪਤ ਸਲਾਕ ਡਾਰਿ ਛਿਤ ਦਈ ॥ ਸੋਨਹਿ ਮਾਟੀ ਸੋ ਮਿਲਿ ਗਈ ॥ ਕਹਿਯੋ ਨ ਸੁਤ ਗ੍ਰਿਹ ਭਯੋ ਹਮਾਰੈ ॥ ਪਾਛੇ ਮੂੰਠੀ ਛਾਰ ਕੀ ਡਾਰੈ ॥੭॥ ਜਬ ਸੁਨਾਰ ਤ੍ਰਿਯ ਸੋ ਸੁਨਿ ਪਾਈ ॥ ਬਹੁ ਮੂੰਠੀ ਭਰਿ ਰਾਖਿ ਉਡਾਈ ॥ ਸੁਨ ਸੁਨਾਰ ਤੇਰੇ ਸਿਰ ਮਾਹੀ ॥ ਜਾ ਕੇ ਏਕ ਪੁਤ੍ਰ ਗ੍ਰਿਹ ਨਾਹੀ ॥੮॥ ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥ ਪੂਤਨ ਸੋ ਪਤ ਪਾਈਯੈ ਪੂਤ ਭਿਰਤ ਰਨ ਜਾਇ ॥ ਇਹ ਮਿਸ ਰਾਖਿ ਉਡਾਇ ਕੈ ਲਈ ਸਲਾਕ ਛਪਾਇ ॥੯॥ ਚੌਪਈ ॥ ਤਬ ਐਸੋ ਤ੍ਰਿਯ ਬਚਨ ਉਚਾਰੇ ॥ ਮੋਰੇ ਪਤਿ ਪਰਦੇਸ ਪਧਾਰੇ ॥ ਤਾ ਤੇ ਮੈ ਔਸੀ ਕੋ ਡਾਰੋ ॥ ਐਹੈ ਨ ਐਹੈ ਨਾਥ ਬਿਚਾਰੋ ॥੧੦॥ ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥ ਕਰ ਸੋ ਔਸੀ ਕਾਢਿ ਕੈ ਲਈ ਸਲਾਕ ਉਠਾਇ ॥ ਹ੍ਯਾ ਰੋਦਨ ਕੋਊ ਕਿਨ ਕਰੋ ਕਹਿ ਸਿਰ ਧਰੀ ਬਨਾਇ ॥੧੧॥ ਚੋਰ ਸੁਨਾਰੋ ਚੁਪ ਰਹਿਯੋ ਕਛੂ ਨ ਬੋਲਿਯੋ ਜਾਇ ॥ ਪਾਈ ਪਰੀ ਸਲਾਕ ਕਹਿ ਸੋਨਾ ਲਯੋ ਭਰਾਇ ॥੧੨॥ ਹਰੀ ਸਲਾਕ ਹਰੀ ਤ੍ਰਿਯਹਿ ਸ੍ਵਰਨ ਤੋਲਿ ਭਰਿ ਲੀਨ ॥ ਚਲ੍ਯੋ ਦਰਬੁ ਦੈ ਗਾਂਠਿ ਕੋ ਦੁਖਿਤ ਸੁਨਾਰੋ ਦੀਨ ॥੧੩॥ ਛਲ ਰੂਪ ਛੈਲੀ ਸਦਾ ਛਕੀ ਰਹਤ ਛਿਤ ਮਾਹਿ ॥ ਅਛਲ ਛਲਤ ਛਿਤਪਤਿਨ ਕੋ ਛਲੀ ਕੌਨ ਤੇ ਜਾਹਿ ॥੧੪॥ ਇਤਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ਪਖ੍ਯਾਨੇ ਪੁਰਖ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰੇ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੀ ਭੂਪ ਸੰਬਾਦੇ ਸਤਰੋ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ਸਮਾਪਤਮ ਸਤੁ ਸੁਭਮ ਸਤੁ ॥੭੦॥੧੨੪੮॥ਅਫਜੂੰ॥ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chatanga1 Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 This charitar is a very interesting charitar. There is the main theme at play, but also I noticed a sub-theme in this story about the value of sons. How sons are are there to fight and protect Kingdoms etc. Very interesting. From this charitar, I see that the Shah's wife Chittar Prabha is a very self-confident and assured woman. She knows the goldsmith is an accomplished thief and has a reputation for being so, yet has the temerity to have him come and work for her. Plus with her husband absent, she knows that she won't have any support from him, so she has to be able to manage by herself. The charitar tells us that the goldsmith tried many methods to swindle some gold from her but she was always alert to his practices and prevented him from doing so. This tells us that Chittar Prabha has great knowledge in the art of deceit already. When the goldsmith fails in all his tried and trusted methods he turns to an emotional ploy, lamenting the death of his son. I think this is to gain sympathy from Chittar Prabha so she will not be vigilant with him. But the death of the son also resonates with the root story of how sons are there to honour their fathers and to also protect their kingdoms. Chittar Prabha is wise to this and her plan to reveal the hidden pipe filled with gold is the exact reverse method the goldsmith used to hide it in the first place. Then as punishment the goldsmith had to give the same exact amount of gold to Chittar Prabha as he tried to steal from her. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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