Sajjan_Thug Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 On 8/1/2022 at 4:45 AM, ipledgeblue said: Yes I am serious, I know about a naamdhari Singh who drinks water from well, which is what a sarbloh bibeki is supposed to drink from! Drinking water from wells was the only option to people back in the day? Today drinking water from well is not a good idea considering that well water is highly contaminated? Maybe, puratan sampradays should find a way to clean water for everyone? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajjan_Thug Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 On 7/29/2022 at 12:00 PM, paapiman said: Are you serious bro? Naamdhariye are also very strict in doing Keshi Ishaan (along with body) daily. Daas heard in a katha that they are very strict on Sucham Maryada too. Bhul chuk maaf You're reading all this from books and articles. The ground realities is their no different from mainstream Sikhs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajjan_Thug Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 On 11/3/2021 at 3:08 AM, Guransh SIngh said: I know for a fact that Sarbloh rehat is not compulsory because I have seen a pooran mahapurkh eat food in non sarbloh utensil. Bhul Chuk Maaf Sat kartar How do you know he is a pooran mahapurkh? Are you projecting your own views on him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajjan_Thug Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 On 8/6/2022 at 12:45 PM, Soulfinder said: You are 100% correct these people akj remind of the pharse "beware of the false prophet". Especially as they wear nihang bana and they brainwash people You can say that about every sampraday, dera, sant, and babas. Every group wants you to be like them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajjan_Thug Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 On 8/1/2022 at 8:56 AM, paapiman said: Thanks bro for that info. Even a Bibeki Sikh will probably drink water from a well. But was he Sarabloh Bibeki? Bhul chuk maaf Drinking water from wells was the only option to people back in the day? Today drinking water from well is not a good idea considering that well water is highly contaminated? Maybe, puratan sampradays should find a way to clean water for everyone? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 36 minutes ago, Sajjan_Thug said: Drinking water from wells was the only option to people back in the day? Today drinking water from well is not a good idea considering that well water is highly contaminated? Maybe, puratan sampradays should find a way to clean water for everyone? Depends on where the well is. And us all trying to drink out of them is our argument they must be clean. Can the Paanth also dabble in water purification? Surely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted August 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Sajjan_Thug said: Drinking water from wells was the only option to people back in the day? Today drinking water from well is not a good idea considering that well water is highly contaminated? Maybe, puratan sampradays should find a way to clean water for everyone? Drink water from the well after filtering it bro. That is common sense. Obviously, the water from the well will be contaminated. Over here in Canada, we filter tap water before drinking it, even though Canada has one of the best water quality in the world, Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted August 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Sajjan_Thug said: You're reading all this from books and articles. The ground realities is their no different from mainstream Sikhs? My friend knew a Naamdhari guy. He would do Keshi Ishaan (along with body) daily and he was very strict on Sucham too. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted August 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Sajjan_Thug said: But which one did Guru Sahib tell to recite and what sources do we have that confirm this? @ipledgeblue The Sri Chaupai saab mentioned in Sharda Pooran Granth (written by Gyani Narain Singh jee) stops at "Dusht Dokh Te Leho Bachai". Gyani jee claims that this Granth is from the times of Shaheed Bhai Mani Singh jee. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajjan_Thug Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, paapiman said: Drink water from the well after filtering it bro. That is common sense. Obviously, the water from the well will be contaminated. Over here in Canada, we filter tap water before drinking it, even though Canada has one of the best water quality in the world, Bhul chuk maaf What method does he use to filter the water and is there a maryada for it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted August 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, Sajjan_Thug said: What method does he use to filter the water and is there a maryada for it? Who? Which Maryada? Maryada for filtering? Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajjan_Thug Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 hours ago, paapiman said: Who? Which Maryada? Maryada for filtering? Bhul chuk maaf Yes, what's the maryada for filtering? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Sajjan_Thug said: Yes, what's the maryada for filtering? Sarbloh vessel, sand, silt, charcoal, and greenery. You have to do Ishnaan first and Naam Jaap the entire time water filters. The water can't be sourced from springs or wells that were blessed by muslims and must be free of tobacco contamination. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 5 hours ago, paapiman said: Drink water from the well after filtering it bro. That is common sense. Obviously, the water from the well will be contaminated. Over here in Canada, we filter tap water before drinking it, even though Canada has one of the best water quality in the world, Bhul chuk maaf Depends entirely on the well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipledgeblue Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 On 8/8/2022 at 9:31 AM, paapiman said: @ipledgeblue The Sri Chaupai saab mentioned in Sharda Pooran Granth (written by Gyani Narain Singh jee) stops at "Dusht Dokh Te Leho Bachai". Gyani jee claims that this Granth is from the times of Shaheed Bhai Mani Singh jee. Bhul chuk maaf there is something similar written in a book by Bhasauria's son Ran Singh. This is interesting, need more information about sharda pooran granth: Chaupai Sahib - Broken Bani? | SikhNet Quote One of his associates Giani Kartar Singh Kalaswalia was the head Granthi of Sri Harimandir Sahib. It was during his term of seva that the Chaupai and Dohira were removed. Teja Singh's son Ran Singh, wrote Dasam Granth Nirney in 1919, in which he claims that another Bani starts after the 25th pauri - Dustt dokh tay layho bachaaee. This is untrue. This is the first reference to the short Chaupai Sahib. Before this time there has not been discovered any reference of anything but the full Chaupai Sahib. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/17/2022 at 10:11 AM, ipledgeblue said: there is something similar written in a book by Bhasauria's son Ran Singh. This is interesting, need more information about sharda pooran granth: Chaupai Sahib - Broken Bani? | SikhNet That site is spurious and the post is very un referenced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipledgeblue Posted September 6, 2022 Report Share Posted September 6, 2022 On 8/17/2022 at 6:11 PM, ipledgeblue said: there is something similar written in a book by Bhasauria's son Ran Singh. This is interesting, need more information about sharda pooran granth: Chaupai Sahib - Broken Bani? | SikhNet On 8/23/2022 at 12:03 AM, GurjantGnostic said: That site is spurious and the post is very un referenced. @paapiman also it says pauri as 25 and and 26 so how can they be from different granths. Didn't bhai Mani Singh put these as one bani when compiling dasam granth. maybe the book by the nirmala sant isn't accurate? ਖੜਗ ਕੇਤ ਮੈਂ ਸ਼ਰਨਿ ਤਿਹਾਰੀ ॥ ਆਪ ਹਾਥ ਦੈ ਲੇਹੁ ਉਬਾਰੀ ॥ਸਰਬ ਠੌਰ ਮੋ ਹੋਹੁ ਸਹਾਈ ॥ ਦੁਸ਼ਟ ਦੋਖ ਤੇ ਲੇਹੁ ਬਚਾਈ ॥੨੫॥ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਕਰੀ ਹਮ ਪਰ ਜਗਮਾਤਾ ॥ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਕਰਾ ਪੂਰਨ ਸੁਭ ਰਾਤਾ ॥ਕਿਲਬਿਖ ਸਕਲ ਦੇਹ ਕੋ ਹਰਤਾ ॥ ਦੁਸ਼ਟ ਦੋਖਿਯਨ ਕੋ ਛੈ ਕਰਤਾ ॥੨੬॥ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uttrang Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 Good idea , have you been to see them , eaten their Langer and requested a meeting with them to work out how that can happen ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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