Popular Post Arsh1469 Posted July 13, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 Bhai Gurdas Ji says on Vaar 1 pauri 49 ਸਤਿਜੁਗ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਵਾਸਦੇਵ ਵਵਾ ਵਿਸਨਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਵੈ। Satijugi Satigur Vaasadayv Vavaa Visanaa Naamu Japaavai | Saṯijug saṯigur vāsaḏev vavā visanā nāmu japāvai. In Satyug, Visnu in the form of Vasudev is said to have incarnated and ‘V’ Of Vahiguru reminds of Visnu. vaahiguroo sabada daa aṅnvaya chaare jugaaṅ naala keetaa jaaṅdaa hai:-satijuga vikhe satigura naanaka jee vaasadeva daa avataara hoe, uthoṅ vavaa leetaa, vishanooṅ daa naama (lok) japaNa lāge. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੧ ਦੁਆਪੁਰਿ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਹਰੀ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਹਾਹਾ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਵੈ। Duaapari Satigur Haree Krisan Haahaa Hari Hari Naamu Japaavai | Ḏuāpuri saṯigur harī krisan hāhā hari hari nāmu japāvai. The true Guru of dvapar is said to be Harikrsna and ‘H’ of Vahiguru reminds of Hari. (pher) duaapara (vikhe) satiguroo (naanaka jee) haree (arathaat) krishana (daa roop) hoe, haahaa (aākhara leetaa) hari hari daa naama japaNa lāge. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੨ ਤ੍ਰੇਤੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਰਾਮ ਜੀ ਰਾਰਾ ਰਾਮ ਜਪੇ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਵੈ। Taytay Satigur Raam Jee Raaraa Raam Japay Sukhu Paavai | Ţreṯe saṯigur rām jī rārā rām jape sukẖ pāvai. In the the treta was Ram and ‘R’ of Vahiguru tells that rembering Ram will produce joy and happiness. trete (yuga vikhe) satiguroo (naanaka jee) raama jee (daa roopa dhaariaa uthoṅ) raaraa (leetaa) raama raama (lokeeṅ) uchaarake sukha paauNa lāge. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੩ ਕਲਿਜੁਗਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰ ਗੋਵਿੰਦ ਗਗਾ ਗੋਵਿੰਦ ਨਾਮੁ ਅਲਾਵੈ। Kalijugi Naanak Gur Gobind Gagaa Gobind Naamu Alaavai | Kalijugi nānak gur govinḏḏ gagā govinḏḏ nāmu ālāvai. In kalijug, Gobind is in the form of Nanak and ‘G’ of Vahiguru gets Govind recited. kaliyuga (vikhe) guroo naanaka gobiṅda (roopa hoe, lok) gobiṅda (gobiṅd) japaNa lāge, (uthoṅ) gagaa (leetaa) hai. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੪ ਚਾਰੇ ਜਾਗੇ ਚਹੁ ਜੁਗੀ ਪੰਚਾਇਣ ਵਿਚਿ ਜਾਇ ਸਮਾਵੈ। Chaaray Jaagay Chahu Jugee Panchaain Vichi Jaai Samaavai | Chāre jāge chahu jugī pancchāīṇ vichi jāī samāvai. The recitations o f all the four ages subsume in Panchayan i.e. in the soul of the common man. chahuṅ juāgaaṅ de chaare (upara kathe jaage=) avataara vaahiguroo vicha jaa samaauṅde han. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੫ ਚਾਰੋ ਅਛਰ ਇਕੁ ਕਰਿ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜਪੁ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਜਪਾਵੈ। Chaaro Achhar Iku Kari Vaahaguroo Japu Mantr Japaavai | Chāro āchhar īku kari vāhigurū japu manṯṯr japāvai. When joining four letters Vahiguru is remembered, (gāla kee) chaare aākhara kāThe karake, vaahiguroo (pṅjavaaṅ) japa mṅtra (sṅgata nooṅ guroo jee ne) japaaiaa. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੬ ਜਹਾਂ ਤੇ ਉਪਜਿਆ ਫਿਰਿ ਤਹਾਂ ਸਮਾਵੈ ॥੪੯॥੧॥ Jahaa Tay Upajiaa Firi Tahaa Samaavai ||49 ||1 || Jahān ṯe ūpajiā phiri ṯahān samāvai ||49||1|| The jiv merges again in its origin. (mṅtra eeshvara de naama thoṅ) jithoṅ upajiaa hai phira use vikhe leena ho jaaṅdaa hai. (dhvanee iha ki phera sṅsaara dee praapata naheeṅ rahegee paramapadadee praapata ho jaavegee. arathaata naama naamee toṅ hoiaa hai te naamee vicha hee lai jaaṅdaa hai) ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੭ Though Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji says this He says this is wrriten in Loh Parkash which I believe to be Sarbloh Granth. The mantra that was given is the same but the people are different. Thoughts? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GurjantGnostic Posted July 14, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 18 hours ago, Arsh1469 said: Bhai Gurdas Ji says on Vaar 1 pauri 49 ਸਤਿਜੁਗ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਵਾਸਦੇਵ ਵਵਾ ਵਿਸਨਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਵੈ। Satijugi Satigur Vaasadayv Vavaa Visanaa Naamu Japaavai | Saṯijug saṯigur vāsaḏev vavā visanā nāmu japāvai. In Satyug, Visnu in the form of Vasudev is said to have incarnated and ‘V’ Of Vahiguru reminds of Visnu. vaahiguroo sabada daa aṅnvaya chaare jugaaṅ naala keetaa jaaṅdaa hai:-satijuga vikhe satigura naanaka jee vaasadeva daa avataara hoe, uthoṅ vavaa leetaa, vishanooṅ daa naama (lok) japaNa lāge. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੧ ਦੁਆਪੁਰਿ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਹਰੀ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਹਾਹਾ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਵੈ। Duaapari Satigur Haree Krisan Haahaa Hari Hari Naamu Japaavai | Ḏuāpuri saṯigur harī krisan hāhā hari hari nāmu japāvai. The true Guru of dvapar is said to be Harikrsna and ‘H’ of Vahiguru reminds of Hari. (pher) duaapara (vikhe) satiguroo (naanaka jee) haree (arathaat) krishana (daa roop) hoe, haahaa (aākhara leetaa) hari hari daa naama japaNa lāge. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੨ ਤ੍ਰੇਤੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਰਾਮ ਜੀ ਰਾਰਾ ਰਾਮ ਜਪੇ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਵੈ। Taytay Satigur Raam Jee Raaraa Raam Japay Sukhu Paavai | Ţreṯe saṯigur rām jī rārā rām jape sukẖ pāvai. In the the treta was Ram and ‘R’ of Vahiguru tells that rembering Ram will produce joy and happiness. trete (yuga vikhe) satiguroo (naanaka jee) raama jee (daa roopa dhaariaa uthoṅ) raaraa (leetaa) raama raama (lokeeṅ) uchaarake sukha paauNa lāge. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੩ ਕਲਿਜੁਗਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰ ਗੋਵਿੰਦ ਗਗਾ ਗੋਵਿੰਦ ਨਾਮੁ ਅਲਾਵੈ। Kalijugi Naanak Gur Gobind Gagaa Gobind Naamu Alaavai | Kalijugi nānak gur govinḏḏ gagā govinḏḏ nāmu ālāvai. In kalijug, Gobind is in the form of Nanak and ‘G’ of Vahiguru gets Govind recited. kaliyuga (vikhe) guroo naanaka gobiṅda (roopa hoe, lok) gobiṅda (gobiṅd) japaNa lāge, (uthoṅ) gagaa (leetaa) hai. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੪ ਚਾਰੇ ਜਾਗੇ ਚਹੁ ਜੁਗੀ ਪੰਚਾਇਣ ਵਿਚਿ ਜਾਇ ਸਮਾਵੈ। Chaaray Jaagay Chahu Jugee Panchaain Vichi Jaai Samaavai | Chāre jāge chahu jugī pancchāīṇ vichi jāī samāvai. The recitations o f all the four ages subsume in Panchayan i.e. in the soul of the common man. chahuṅ juāgaaṅ de chaare (upara kathe jaage=) avataara vaahiguroo vicha jaa samaauṅde han. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੫ ਚਾਰੋ ਅਛਰ ਇਕੁ ਕਰਿ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜਪੁ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਜਪਾਵੈ। Chaaro Achhar Iku Kari Vaahaguroo Japu Mantr Japaavai | Chāro āchhar īku kari vāhigurū japu manṯṯr japāvai. When joining four letters Vahiguru is remembered, (gāla kee) chaare aākhara kāThe karake, vaahiguroo (pṅjavaaṅ) japa mṅtra (sṅgata nooṅ guroo jee ne) japaaiaa. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੬ ਜਹਾਂ ਤੇ ਉਪਜਿਆ ਫਿਰਿ ਤਹਾਂ ਸਮਾਵੈ ॥੪੯॥੧॥ Jahaa Tay Upajiaa Firi Tahaa Samaavai ||49 ||1 || Jahān ṯe ūpajiā phiri ṯahān samāvai ||49||1|| The jiv merges again in its origin. (mṅtra eeshvara de naama thoṅ) jithoṅ upajiaa hai phira use vikhe leena ho jaaṅdaa hai. (dhvanee iha ki phera sṅsaara dee praapata naheeṅ rahegee paramapadadee praapata ho jaavegee. arathaata naama naamee toṅ hoiaa hai te naamee vicha hee lai jaaṅdaa hai) ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੭ Though Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji says this He says this is wrriten in Loh Parkash which I believe to be Sarbloh Granth. The mantra that was given is the same but the people are different. Thoughts? Busy, but let find that and compare it if we can. Edit: Have a moment. Does Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji say that the order of Mantar was Vishnu, Har, Gobind, Ram? I do seem to remember encountering a slightly different order and attribution like you said. Because in Kalyug the Dharmi Mantar for non Siks is Ram isnt? I know people use variety of Mantars, but for Kalyug isn't it Ram? For us Vaheguru. Oh it's short lemme see if I can follow along. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trimandeep Singh Posted July 14, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 I'll soon post a link of a thread from Gurmat Bibek forum on this pankti. That would clear your doubts. I just need to find it. Edit: Here it is. Vichar is supported by writings of Bhai Sahib Vir Singh Ji. https://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,33059,33068#msg-33068 Guru sahib kirpa karan Trimandeep Singh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 48 minutes ago, Trimandeep Singh said: I'll soon post a link of a thread from Gurmat Bibek forum on this pankti. That would clear your doubts. I just need to find it. Edit: Here it is. Vichar is supported by writings of Bhai Sahib Vir Singh Ji. https://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,33059,33068#msg-33068 Guru sahib kirpa karan Trimandeep Singh That was awesome. I think however it is said that it is not formed from the names but what the Mantar was? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post paapiman Posted January 31, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 7/13/2021 at 10:59 PM, GurjantGnostic said: Because in Kalyug the Dharmi Mantar for non Siks is Ram isnt? It's different for different people. Raam for Hindus. Allah hu or Allah for the Muslims Issa for Christians And so on. In general, for non-Sikhs, they probably need to get their Mantar from a spiritual master, who has attained Sidhi of that Mantar. Bhul chuk maaf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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