shastarSingh Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 https://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/89365-is-punjabi-5500-years-old/ @paapiman what do u say Bro? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 34 minutes ago, shastarSingh said: https://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/89365-is-punjabi-5500-years-old/ @paapiman what do u say Bro? For perspective sake that makes it on par with the oldest languages. So it's as old and original as anything on this planet. Coptic is considered oldest documented language and it's older than that or basically same time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 It's not a Kalyug language. It predates Kalyug. It was in use prior. And may be the tongue of a Devte etc if not ancient and earthly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 3 hours ago, shastarSingh said: https://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/89365-is-punjabi-5500-years-old/ @paapiman what do u say Bro? Sanskrit is one of the oldest languages of the world and Punjabi is connected to it. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shastarSingh Posted July 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 2 hours ago, paapiman said: Sanskrit is one of the oldest languages of the world and Punjabi is connected to it. Bhul chuk maaf Punjabi sounds are present in rig veda, the oldest veda and these sounds are not present in Sanskrit. Punjabi has many similarities with Dravidian (south Indian) languages. Punjabi and Dravidian languages were spoken in northern India, Pakistan and other nearby regions before the Aryans came 3500 years ago. Plz read the link in the original post. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shastarSingh Posted July 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, shastarSingh said: Punjabi sounds are present in rig veda, the oldest veda. Punjabi has many similarities with Dravidian (south Indian) languages. Punjabi and Dravidian languages were spoken in northern India, Pakistan and other nearby regions before the Aryans came 3500 years ago. Plz read the link in the original post. @paapiman Plz read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahui_language Brahui is a Dravidian language still spoken in Pakistan, balochistan, Iran, Afghanistan and Turkmenistan. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shastarSingh Posted July 11, 2022 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 @GurjantGnostic @dalsingh101 There are many extremely trained astrologers in ludhiana and they are scholars of Sanskrit. But even they can't fully understand Vedic Sanskrit and Vedic astrology. They say present day Sanskrit is very different from Sanskrit in vedaas. So Punjabi was spoken before the rig veda but it's different from present day Punjabi. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shastarSingh Posted July 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 @GurjantGnostic @paapiman Plz read this research from Germany. https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/dravidian-language-family-is-4-500-years-old-finds-international-study/story-xRsAAzj5wqOIVPAgd3TkWL.html This study confirms, for instance, that Dravidian speakers were present in the subcontinent before the Indo-Aryan speakers arrived (around 3,500 years ago). We know about this from Dravidian (word) loans into Sanskrit but this is a confirmation,” said lead author Annemarie Verkerk of the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History in Jena, Germany 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shastarSingh Posted July 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 Taken from G S Sidhu's research which can be read from the original post. What more proof do we need that Punjabi existed before rig veda??? @GurjantGnostic@paapiman @dalsingh101 @proudkaur ""Some words of Rig Veda are only found in Panjabi and no other language of the world like ਵਹਿੰਗੀ, ਤੱਕੜੀ, ਜਾਨੀ, ਗੱਡਣਾ etc."" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, shastarSingh said: Taken from G S Sidhu's research which can be read from the original post. What more proof do we need that Punjabi existed before rig veda??? @GurjantGnostic@paapiman @dalsingh101 @proudkaur ""Some words of Rig Veda are only found in Panjabi and no other language of the world like ਵਹਿੰਗੀ, ਤੱਕੜੀ, ਜਾਨੀ, ਗੱਡਣਾ etc."" Proof positive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shastarSingh Posted July 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 Malto is northern Dravidian language spoken in east India including even Bihar and Bengal. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malto_language 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shastarSingh Posted July 11, 2022 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 Taken from G S Sidhu's research which can be read from the original post. What more proof do we need that Punjabi existed before rig veda??? @GurjantGnostic @proudkaur @dalsingh101 @paapiman @Premi The Uvular ਲ਼ is only found in Rig Veda although it’s frequency is not same as other sounds, and isn’t used in Sanskrit at all, but surprisingly is a common in Panjabi like ਬੋਲ਼ਾ meaning deaf, and many more like ਕਾਲ਼ਾ , ਸਾਲ਼ਾ, ਕਮਲ਼ਾ, ਰੌਲ਼ਾ etc. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shastarSingh Posted July 11, 2022 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 11 hours ago, shastarSingh said: Punjabi sounds are present in rig veda, the oldest veda and these sounds are not present in Sanskrit. Punjabi has many similarities with Dravidian (south Indian) languages. Punjabi and Dravidian languages were spoken in northern India, Pakistan and other nearby regions before the Aryans came 3500 years ago. Plz read the link in the original post. Taken from G S Sidhu's research which can be read from the original post. There is also a lot of influence of Dravidian languages over Panjabi who share common words with Panjabi, example ਮੀਨ which means Fish, ਡੌਲਾ meaning shoulder, ਠੁਠ meaning thumb, ਢੂਈ meaning back have all been taken from Dravidian languages. An ear ring is called Muruk in Dravidian languages while in Panjabi it’s called Murki ਮੁਰਕੀ. [1] 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shastarSingh Posted July 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 11 hours ago, shastarSingh said: Taken from G S Sidhu's research which can be read from the original post. There is also a lot of influence of Dravidian languages over Panjabi who share common words with Panjabi, example ਮੀਨ which means Fish, ਡੌਲਾ meaning shoulder, ਠੁਠ meaning thumb, ਢੂਈ meaning back have all been taken from Dravidian languages. An ear ring is called Muruk in Dravidian languages while in Panjabi it’s called Murki ਮੁਰਕੀ. [1] Taken from G S Sidhu's research which can be read from the original post. The ਲ਼ is totally lost in modern Sanskrit but Tamil, Telugu, Kannada, Malayalam and Panjabi still use it. The words ਪਕੌੜਾ and ਵੜੇ are found in both Tamil and Panjabi. Some might argue that it’s same in Hindi but the Hindi language has no sound as same as Panjabi letter ੜ. As shown below the Hindi corresponding letter has a Ń sound than Ra sound. [2] 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 Tamil comes up repeatedly. That place is super linked to Sikhi. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shastarSingh Posted July 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 39 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said: Tamil comes up repeatedly. That place is super linked to Sikhi. I lived in Chennai, capital of Tamil Nadu for few months and the people there are much better than north Indian bamann/banniya. They are much simpler and ethical and praise Sikhs for their sacrifices for Indian independence before 1947. North Indian Hindus make jokes on Sikhs but they also mock Tamil Hindus and their darker skin and their way of eating/dressing etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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