Schizophrenia and Sikhi

[chintamatkaro]

1 hour ago, paapiman said:

Sister, Daas has a question.

Do you know how to get off Risperidone naturally (or with Herbal medications) without any prescription medications?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

You need at least 5grams of fish oil and 5000 iu vitamin D daily to heal your brain. Your brain is fatty tissue so increase your healthy fat intake. Butter is good for you.

[paapiman]

24 minutes ago, chintamatkaro said:

You need at least 5grams of fish oil and 5000 iu vitamin D daily to heal your brain. Your brain is fatty tissue so increase your healthy fat intake. Butter is good for you.

Thanks for your input bro. Daas has never taken Risperidone, but I came across some comments regarding it in the video which you posted.

Eggs are also good for your brain right?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

2 hours ago, chintamatkaro said:

Mental illness doesnt even exist.

Mental illnesses do exist bro. Even Ayurveda has medications for them. Maybe some of the medications prescribed by the Big Pharma have serious side effects in the long run, but some medications might have benefits (if used for a short period of time). 

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[chintamatkaro]

3 minutes ago, paapiman said:

Mental illnesses do exist bro. Even Ayurveda has medications for them. Maybe some of the medications prescribed by the Big Pharma have serious side effects in the long run, but some medications might have benefits (if used for a short period of time). 

 

Bhul chuk maaf

 

10 minutes ago, paapiman said:

Thanks for your input bro. Daas has never taken Risperidone, but I came across some comments regarding it in the video which you posted.

Eggs are also good for your brain right?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Eggs are the most complete nutritional source. They have the same substance as your semen and Cerebrospinalfluid. Very powerful. I eat 2 boiled eggs every morning.

Mental health problems exist but the labels and diagnoses are totally illusionary. I talk to God and I hear Him = schizo. Its a deep topic, too deep for an internet forum… my heart goes out to all suffering at the hands of ignornace. But oh well it was meant to happen. God has a cruel sense of humor.

[paapiman]

4 minutes ago, chintamatkaro said:

 

Eggs are the most complete nutritional source. They have the same substance as your semen and Cerebrospinalfluid. Very powerful. I eat 2 boiled eggs every morning.

Mental health problems exist but the labels and diagnoses are totally illusionary. I talk to God and I hear Him = schizo. Its a deep topic, too deep for an internet forum… my heart goes out to all suffering at the hands of ignornace. But oh well it was meant to happen. God has a cruel sense of humor.

So according to you, what are the best foods for the brain, in order to avoid any mental illnesses?

Please add to the list below (Do you agree with the list in the link below):

• Eggs
• Fish oil
• Nuts and Dry fruits
• Vitamin D supplements
• Pumpkin seeds
• Oranges

 

11 Best Foods to Boost Your Brain and Memory (healthline.com)

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[chintamatkaro]

26 minutes ago, paapiman said:

So according to you, what are the best foods for the brain, in order to avoid any mental illnesses?

Please add to the list below (Do you agree with the list in the link below):

• Eggs
• Fish oil
• Nuts and Dry fruits
• Vitamin D supplements
• Pumpkin seeds
• Oranges

 

11 Best Foods to Boost Your Brain and Memory (healthline.com)

 

Bhul chuk maaf

The best food for the brain is Waheguru Simran brother. All these foods are good too. Thanks for the list.

The best food for the soul is talking to your Creator and listening for Her response.

We live in the demiurge, the false material universe also known as Maya. Our true Home is the spiritual universe known as vaikuntha or sach khand. Those with souls can reach home but not every being has a soul. That being said, God is in everything and everyone but some lack the higher functioning that is called “soul”. We must return home while we are still alive. By obeying His hukam relentlessly, even if it means your own death and destruction, on any and every level. ego must be shed for that to happen. Good luck and God bless.

 

abandon all your desires, all your wants. You NEED God alone. You don’t need that promotion, you don’t need your kids to be happy or even you to be happy.

you need GOD’s hukam which is NAAM. Naam is connection to his MIND.

[Kaur10]

On 12/9/2023 at 4:03 PM, paapiman said:

Sister, Daas has a question.

Do you know how to get off Risperidone naturally (or with Herbal medications) without any prescription medications?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

I forget a lot as worked in a non-clinical setting for nearly four years. 

I have experienced depression and PTSD myself and seen someone very closely beating depression + anxiety + panic attacks + body dysmorphic disorder.  Lifestyle intervention plays its part but it is very hard work.  It is like a full time job working on yourself.

EDITED

 VEER,  have you ever been given lifestyle intervention by a health professional? I have edited this paragraph because I have read theory about psychosis and schizophrenia (not experienced the symptoms myself). There is big difference when you directly experience yourself, take medicine, try lifestyle intervention, experience side effects and then try alternative medicine to come over those side effects or ongoing symptoms. 
 

Have you tried to reduce the dose gradually? Are you in stable condition to reduce? Have you discussed it with your doctor?
 

I would feel good if I could help you, but I don’t feel confident advising on this medical condition. 

[Kaur10]

On 12/8/2023 at 8:40 PM, Soulfinder said:

@chintamatkaroveer ji very interesting writings you have posted on here the site. 

 

Dass himself takes 2 antipsychotics along with antidepressant, mood stabiliser, sedatives and a benzodiazepine.

I have been on a number of antidepressants in the beginning but you are right the side effects were nasty with sertraline which was horrible as the headaches it caused were unbearable. I also had problems with mirtazapine,citalopram as well.

I give you credit about your views about psychiatrists as the first one in my treatment was horrible along with a few others i have been given. Even the therapists are equally bad as well.

 

Back to myself i suffer from ptsd depression and the psychiatrist said the psychosis i get is a extension of the ptsd that's what the shrink said. Luckly the last 2 psychiatrist i have seen are good talking wise but only Waheguru Guru Sahib Ji's kirpa will cure me one day as the medication side i have seen now.

 

I am glad you got someone good.  Health professionals play major part in treating any illness but in kalyug it seems like many are present at work only for their wages.  I have personally witnessed it and feel they look down on mental health patients.  At the same time, we (me and my team) are always very respectful and helpful to our patients but sometimes feel hurt by their misbehaviour.  

Medicine alone is not enough to treat or even relieve chronic symptoms.  Drs don't have time to explain everything due to increased workload, staff-shortage, family issues, work politics etc. , and all this is resulting in reduced patient care.  

In hurry, would add more later.

 There are very helpful and kind people working in NHS but increased workload means they could not provide the care they want to. It is emotionally painful to neglect patient’s needs just because of time strain.  There are videos on You tube showing the medical staff moaning about NHS crisis. 
 

I wish you very good luck!

Believe in WAHEGURU and carry on with SIMRAN, everything would be fine. 

 

[Soulfinder]

2 hours ago, Kaur10 said:

I forget a lot as worked in a non-clinical setting for nearly four years. 

I have experienced depression and PTSD myself and seen someone very closely beating depression + anxiety + panic attacks + body dysmorphic disorder.  Lifestyle intervention plays its part but it is very hard work.  It is like a full time job working on yourself.

Which medical condition are you suffering from? Is your condition stable? Have you tried to gradually reduce the dose? which withdrawal symptoms do you experience on reducing the dose if you have ever tried?  Have you ever been given lifestyle intervention by a health professional?

Bhen ji thats terrible that you have gone through depression and PTSD its horrible to think about. And have seen others go through the same its not pleasant.

[Soulfinder]

1 hour ago, Kaur10 said:

I am glad you got someone good.  Health professionals play major part in treating any illness but in kalyug it seems like many are present at work only for their wages.  I have personally witnessed it and feel they look down on mental health patients.  At the same time, we (me and my team) are always very respectful and helpful to our patients but sometimes feel hurt by their misbehaviour.  

Medicine alone is not enough to treat or even relieve chronic symptoms.  Drs don't have time to explain everything due to increased workload, staff-shortage, family issues, work politics etc. , and all this is resulting in reduced patient care.  

In hurry, would add more later

Bhen ji i saw the psychiatrist on last Wednesday and i am awaiting for the clinical letter report to the gp dr. But he said to increase quetiapine from 50mg to 100mg and aripiprazole 30mg to finish in 3 weeks like 10mg drop every week until finish. 

 

The medication i am taking and am given in monthly doses is Diazepam 5mg,Duloxetine 120mg,Promethazine hydrochloride 25mg,Propranolol 40mg,Sodium valproate 500mg,Zopiclone 7.5mg. This is the stuff i am taking along with iron ferrous 200mg, vitamin d iu1000 which i take everyday.

 

Its not easy what you have written about working in this type of job role. 

[Kaur10]

7 minutes ago, Soulfinder said:

Bhen ji i saw the psychiatrist on last Wednesday and i am awaiting for the clinical letter report to the gp dr. But he said to increase quetiapine from 50mg to 100mg and aripiprazole 30mg to finish in 3 weeks like 10mg drop every week until finish. 

 

The medication i am taking and am given in monthly doses is Diazepam 5mg,Duloxetine 120mg,Promethazine hydrochloride 25mg,Propranolol 40mg,Sodium valproate 500mg,Zopiclone 7.5mg. This is the stuff i am taking along with iron ferrous 200mg, vitamin d iu1000 which i take everyday.

 

Its not easy what you have written about working in this type of job role. 

It’s sad that a nice person like you have to go through all of this. It seems like your symptoms are not stable.  Do you take your medicine daily without missing any dose? Do you eat freshly cooked food or processed food? Do you have any good circle of friends or supportive family?

Veer, do you do any physical exercise or go to gym? 
 

i think i can help you if you help yourself. At least we can give it a go. 

[Soulfinder]

58 minutes ago, Kaur10 said:

It’s sad that a nice person like you have to go through all of this. It seems like your symptoms are not stable.  Do you take your medicine daily without missing any dose? Do you eat freshly cooked food or processed food? Do you have any good circle of friends or supportive family?

Veer, do you do any physical exercise or go to gym? 
 

i think i can help you if you help yourself. At least we can give it a go. 

Its horrible bhen ji what i am going through its not pleasant. I do take my meds on time everyday and night.

 

The psychiatrists i have seen throughout the last almost 6 years i have made formal complaints to the team about 3 of the staff members as its not a pleasant experience to go through. 

 

Food wise bhen ji its usually my mum that does the cooking and i usually eat roti,bread etc. I don't eat meat,fish or egg. No alcohol either. I usually eat my mum's meals which are fresh. I have though made frozen food for myself at times.

 

My social circle is not really good as i don't have that many friends but i do speak to a few people throughout the years. My thiya and grandma is the only ones who know my depression secret as I don't want others to know about it at all. My rest of the family outside my parents is nasty to say due to my experience with them.

 

I want to lose weight cos my clothes aren't fitting me anymore so i think its either the pills or fatigue i get that my energy levels don't let me exercise or go to the gym. But its something i want to lose my weight as i am 34 now.

 

Nowdays its the banis paaths that are helping me but i still need to go outside which I don't want to do for a while now.

[Soulfinder]

Here is a copy of my letter with my diagnosis from the psychiatrist as its not pleasant what i am currently going through. 

 

[chintamatkaro]

On 12/11/2023 at 11:22 AM, Soulfinder said:

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[Jigyasu1991]

On 12/9/2023 at 10:48 AM, paapiman said:

So according to you, what are the best foods for the brain, in order to avoid any mental illnesses?

Please add to the list below (Do you agree with the list in the link below):

• Eggs
• Fish oil
• Nuts and Dry fruits
• Vitamin D supplements
• Pumpkin seeds
• Oranges

 

11 Best Foods to Boost Your Brain and Memory (healthline.com)

 

Bhul chuk maaf

what about food rahit for Amritdhari Sikhs ? eggs and fish oil are not allowed as far as I know.

 

[chintamatkaro]

4 hours ago, Jigyasu1991 said:

what about food rahit for Amritdhari Sikhs ? eggs and fish oil are not allowed as far as I know.

 

Whats wrong with eating meat? 

[Kaur10]

@Soulfinder would you like to discuss things here or do you think inbox would be better?

 Here, kind members could also add their advice and we could encourage you together and someone else could benefit too but at the same time it is a public forum. Sometimes other forum users could add negative comments too. 
 

lifestyle management is very important to get the most out of your medication and to help patient’s medical condition. Even though we know most of it but still our brain does not register it and we carry on ignoring all advices as if it is bakwaas. 

bhul chuk maaf for mistakes

[Soulfinder]

4 hours ago, Kaur10 said:

@Soulfinder would you like to discuss things here or do you think inbox would be better?

 Here, kind members could also add their advice and we could encourage you together and someone else could benefit too but at the same time it is a public forum. Sometimes other forum users could add negative comments too. 
 

lifestyle management is very important to get the most out of your medication and to help patient’s medical condition. Even though we know most of it but still our brain does not register it and we carry on ignoring all advices as if it is bakwaas. 
 

my very close contact beat depression, anxiety, panic attacks and body dysmorphia. He had break up, felt completely broken and everything started going downhill. He changed his school first, removed known contacts from social media, had counselling but it was doing nothing, had hypnotherapy etc. then he bought a book by Paul McKenna (I think it is the right author) and start reading it, started following all the advice given one by one , literally starting ticking all the boxes for all the given suggestions. I was thinking that this would not work and he is just acting crazy but I was wrong, in fact VERY WRONG. you would not believe the change I have seen in his personality. It was difficult but not impossible. I have witnessed panic attacks in him, I have seen determination to change his life and I have finally seen THE CHANGE HE WISH FOR. Within one year he was a completely different person. 
 

time to go, finish lunch break, would come back to add more. 

bhul chuk maaf for mistakes

Han ji bhen ji it would be better to do a inbox as i have already exposed too much already now. Plus there is also other things that i rather not mention publicly as well. 

 

I agree bhen ji that i need to sort out my lifestyle as what i have noticed is that when i woke up i skipped having a bath shower and the whole day was really horrible as i missed my nitnem banis plus i felt more worse than usual.

 

The person you have mentioned seems to have achieved a lot especially when people get struck down by this horrific depression and feel like no where to go like i do at the moment. Its not easy i be honest bhen ji but i am hoping to reach the goal one day 

 

[Premi]

11 minutes ago, Soulfinder said:

Han ji bhen ji it would be better to do a inbox as i have already exposed too much already now. Plus there is also other things that i rather not mention publicly as well. 

 

Not too late to remove details from your previous posts if you think you have too info much info

[Soulfinder]

15 minutes ago, Premi said:

Not too late to remove details from your previous posts if you think you have too info much info

You are right bro i will try to remove as its a bit personal but i will start making edits to the posts.

[Kaur10]

3 hours ago, Premi said:

Not too late to remove details from your previous posts if you think you have too info much info

I agree

[Kaur10]

I was listening to Baba Isher Singh Ji’s diwan audio ‘ Bhai Jallan Ji Di Katha’ and Baba Ji said when someone reach higher state of concentration/focus in spirituality, then they start listening to voices from far away / other planets etc because ‘mann bahut sukhsham ho jaanda hai’.
 

Also, heard Bhai Ajit Singh Ji talking about something like when energy goes up then need to shift it in some direction ( don’t remember the exact words or meaning). 

Has anyone who experience the symptoms here talked to any experienced Gurmukh? 

[chintamatkaro]

4 hours ago, Kaur10 said:

I was listening to Baba Isher Singh Ji’s diwan audio ‘ Bhai Jallan Ji Di Katha’ and Baba Ji said when someone reach higher state of concentration/focus in spirituality, then they start listening to voices from far away / other planets etc because ‘mann bahut sukhsham ho jaanda hai’.
 

Also, heard Bhai Ajit Singh Ji talking about something like when energy goes up then need to shift it in some direction ( don’t remember the exact words or meaning). 

Has anyone who experience the symptoms here talked to any experienced Gurmukh? 

*disclaimer* please forgive this idiot if he offends anyone with what he is about to say… thanks and sorry in advance.
 

Of course. I will not disclose too much but I have had many telepathic communications with humans and non-humans. My dasam duar hasnt opened yet but I know people (fools) who opened their dasam duar by their own effort. Mine is very close to opening and Ive seen peaks of it but I’ll tell you once you reach there you realize everything is in Hukam (Hukam means Laws of Universe AND God’s Plan) and there truly is nothing to fear. I am no Gurmukh but God blessed me with many spiritual experiences and darshans and countless hours of naam simran.

 

bhai ajit singh ji wss referring to energy transumtation. you have to move the energy thru the chakras, if the energy gets stuck you can feel crazy and might act out (happened to me).

 

if you do bhagti you must workout (minimum 1hr walk daily). Otherwise you become corrupt because your ahankar develops (aka you start getting ridhi sidhi) and overpowers your heart

this is the true meaning of Khalsa I believe. It is far above rituals and keeping 5Ks. To be shastardhari means you are always ready for death, and you remain pure because we will be examined after death by dharam raj (Waheguru). To be pure is to be truly Khalsa, and a true Khalsa trains not only his mind through Simran but also disciplines his body. That being said I am not Khalis, I am a dirty demon worse than Kal yug.

[paapiman]

On 12/11/2023 at 5:18 PM, Jigyasu1991 said:

what about food rahit for Amritdhari Sikhs ? eggs and fish oil are not allowed as far as I know.

 

Take Amrit from Nihang Singhs. Then, you don't have to worry much about Eggs.

There are other food options in the link below.

11 Best Foods to Boost Your Brain and Memory (healthline.com)

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

On 12/10/2023 at 3:09 PM, Kaur10 said:

I forget a lot as worked in a non-clinical setting for nearly four years. 

I have experienced depression and PTSD myself and seen someone very closely beating depression + anxiety + panic attacks + body dysmorphic disorder.  Lifestyle intervention plays its part but it is very hard work.  It is like a full time job working on yourself.

EDITED

 VEER,  have you ever been given lifestyle intervention by a health professional? I have edited this paragraph because I have read theory about psychosis and schizophrenia (not experienced the symptoms myself). There is big difference when you directly experience yourself, take medicine, try lifestyle intervention, experience side effects and then try alternative medicine to come over those side effects or ongoing symptoms. 
 

Have you tried to reduce the dose gradually? Are you in stable condition to reduce? Have you discussed it with your doctor?
 

I would feel good if I could help you, but I don’t feel confident advising on this medical condition. 

No problem sister. I have never taken Risperidone. I came across some people talking about it in the comment section of the video posted by the op.

 

Bhul chuk maaf