tSingh Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 Sayed Sultan said: If you pray and feel satisfaction at having prayed, your action has made you worse. In such circumstances, cease to pray until you have learned how to be really humble. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mugermach Singh Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 If you pray and feel satisfaction at having prayed, your action has made you worse. In such circumstances, cease to pray until you have learned how to be really humble. What if you just feel better, not satisfied but relaxed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tSingh Posted September 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 I can think of three reasons why someone would feel better; a) because they feel better for having done something virtuous and self-validating they feel contented by the words of someone else c) that it reassures the individual of the greatness of the writer of the words nb - removing doubt and confusion is not to my mind the same as feeling satisfaction/pleasure. For me this is saying that the one who really seeks truth will not feel pleasure from reading and hearing prayer. Prayer should further increase the pain of separation, the need to realise truth, not produce santokh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugermach Singh Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 nb - removing doubt and confusion is not to my mind the same as feeling satisfaction/pleasure The lines between them are still blured for me... See what happens.. Prayer should further increase the pain of separation, the need to realise truth I suppose this could relate to other aspects of life too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guv Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 For me this is saying that the one who really seeks truth will not feel pleasure from reading and hearing prayer. Prayer should further increase the pain of separation, the need to realise truth, not produce santokh. what do u mean by prayer? recitation, meditation, singing, all of the above, or none. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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