challenge_everything Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/story_pages/news/news3.shtml Check out Kaljug guyz 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doaba Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 i feel sorry for teh freshis man. i don't blame them trying to get out of india to get a job and $$$ and food. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted March 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 itz not the freshies doaba its these guyz who are shipping em over 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guv Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 no wonder most of the granthis u see these days know nothing. they just been brought over so the committee can line their pockets. u're right... this is beszti! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAadmin Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 oh gosh, this is shocking.. what does this world coming to ??? i say line all the two faced chamleion type agents and ship them to afghanistan for their deeds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palm_w1 Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 i feel sorry for teh freshis man. i don't blame them trying to get out of india to get a job and $$$ and food. i agree man. if the western world didn't economically shaft the developing world in the first place there wouldn't be any economic migration. people will take advantage of any route to leave poverty and rights abuses. got to say the other guy is a proper sap to call in this shitty tabloid to investigate. he should have tried to stop it himself rather than blowing this issue up in the media. and perhaps news international should investigate the rabid racism of their readers rather than demonising immigrants. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted March 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 bechare yaar - bechare freshies 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted March 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Wot about Sant Baba Baljit Singh Khalsa - vah ji vah oh dear - another sant scandal! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doaba Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 it was a paki but y did he stop sikhs freshies y not not muslims. hold up hold up i ain't being racist u idiots just asking a simple question. cus every where i c there r more and more freshie muslims. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted March 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 no ones saying ure racist u bandar palm was saying the media is racist And yeah - what about all the muslmaan freshies? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doaba Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 2 many everywhere man. enough muslim freshies everywher y not stop them 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H4RPAL Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 What about the manner in which this idiot writes the article- he seems so smug about the fact that he busted these illegals. Fair enough about this stuff about the living 'saint,' but he should see that the fresh bros are the victims here! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted March 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Yaar - Kaljug on one side this nakli sant baba on the other side those poor freshies being demonised waheguru 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted March 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 For those of you too lazy to press the link here is the story... INVESTIGATION: This coach load of illegal immigrants thought they were going to work... Busted! By Mazher Mahmood I DROVE a mini-bus load of illegals into the arms of the law yesterday—as my expose of an immigration racket run by a Sikh ‘saint' reached its dramatic climax. My passengers—some of whom had posed as Sikh priests to get into the UK —had happily piled into the mini-bus looking forward to jobs I'd promised them in my construction firm. But they were walking into a trap and within minutes the bus was stopped at a road block and surrounded by cops. The men stayed quiet as the cops hauled them out of the minibus and led them to a police van. Last night they were being quizzed by immigration officials. The bust was the culmination of an incredible month-long investigation into an immigration racket run from the Nanaksar Temple in Walsall, West Midlands. During the probe, living ‘saint' Sant Baba Baljit Singhji Khalsa fixed it for me to buy papers which would state that one of my ‘relatives' was a priest, allowing him entry to Britain. The papers were handed over by his partner in crime, Sikh priest Randhir Singh, who pocketed £400. I was posing as a construction firm boss—and Singh jumped at the chance to get work for some of his pals. He told me: "There are a few of our brothers here who need jobs. They don't have any papers so they can't work legally. "Can you give them jobs? You can come here illegally by posing as priests or in lorries, but once you're here it's hard to get jobs with reasonable money. Obviously you only have to pay them a fraction of what you would pay English labourers." Farewells We arranged to meet at the temple at 12:30pm yesterday. When I arrived, Priest Randhir emerged with Harbans Singh, who is masquerading as a priest, and Jagdish Singh, who is applying to stay in the country as a priest even though he has been working as a garage mechanic. Randhir gave me a long embrace and the other two men shook hands with me before climbing into the 17-seater minibus. Randhir asked me to drive to a terraced house, where we picked up another five illegals. Randhir believed I was taking his cronies to London, where they would start new lives working on my building site. But they never got out of Walsall. I had met immigration officials before going to the temple and they had given me a map pinpointing the quiet industrial estate where they would lie in wait for me to deliver the immigrants. When I pulled up with my cargo of illegals, they swooped. Each of the men was ordered off the bus to be told through an interpreter they were arrested. My lasting image is of Priest Randhir in handcuffs, arms outstretched begging to be freed. Bizarrely, a senior officer later asked if they could put the men back in the minibus and if I could drive them into Birmingham where they would be quizzed. I agreed and several officers got into the van to watch over the men during the journey. We were tipped off about the racket by head priest of the Nanaksar Temple, Karnail Singh. He said: "It is scandalous how our religion is being used in an immigration racket. "It's happening at temples all over the country, including my own, and is a huge racket." Anyone applying to come here as a priest must show that they have been properly ordained following a minimum of one year's training. After four years, ministers can apply to live here permanently. To uncover the fake priest scandal I posed as a Sikh and arranged an audience with Indian holy man, Sant Baba Baljit Singhji Khalsa, who was in Britain on a preaching tour. This ‘living saint'—who faces firearms charges in India—was soon offering to arrange to bring my fictitious cousin to Britain. "Is he a Sikh with a full beard?" he inquired. "He hasn't shaved has he?" Sikhs are not allowed to cut their hair, so anyone posing as a preacher would have to have a long beard. Sant Baba said he could arrange a letter from a temple for our man. He told me: "The temples have made it a business. There are a few temples that are doing it nowadays." We told Sant Baba we were worried our man would not be able to convince the authorities he was a Sikh priest because he did not know enough about the religious texts. Clever Sant Baba said: "He will have to prepare. I'll show him the way. It'll take ten days. But a clever bloke can do it in just two days." He later arranged for me to meet his right-hand man Randhir Singh, who told me: "Your letter will be done, don't worry. "It'll be £400 because it has to be official. It'll say we want your man to come here to preach. It'll say all his accommodation and living costs will be down to us." The following day Randhir arranged to hand over the letter. We met outside a library near the temple and he proudly showed off the document addressed to the Home Office in New Delhi. The letter from the Guru Nanak Sikh Mission Darbar in Rugby was signed by its president, Jaswant Singh Kalsi. It said: "The Executive Committee wish to sponsor the following preacher and support the visa application for a religious tour." It then named our fictitious man in India as a preacher. Randhir Singh bragged: "More than a 100 people have come over like this. The Home Office can't do anything because our papers show that you are a priest and that your services are required at a temple here. Worry "Don't worry. As long as your man has a beard and a turban and looks like a priest and can speak a few words of English, he will be here in a flash. "Once he is here for a couple of years, he can stay here with his family forever!" I handed over £400 which he counted out in front of me—twice. He said: "It's a pukka job. Your man is sorted." Also hoping to get sorted soon are Sukha Singh and Nidhan Singh. They arrived in Britain on the back of a lorry and have sought refuge at the temple. Sukha told me: "I have no papers. We are both saving up to try and get priest status so we can stay. God is great." Now the sinners can look forward to being kicked out of their safe haven. Our dossier is available to the authorities. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 :shock: ooo not very good :shock: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted March 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 I think it was this same Baba Baljit Singh Khalsa whose divans were publicised on the BOSS website - www.boss-uk.org a while back! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 yes it was 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted March 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 oh dear! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAadmin Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Parallel Discussions going on - >>> http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=10024 <<<< 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guv Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 well according to singh shromani (from nthirty's link) it's all a fake: its FAKE, its a Fake story which has been fabricated, and RAW and other indian govt agencies have fabricated this, Sant Baba Baljit Singh Ji Khalsa "Dadu Sahib Wale" are one of the Sant's in india who speak 84 and Khalistan aswell as Gurmat Katha Kirtan Updesh and so the Indian Govt are trying to frame "Sants" and "Kathavaachaks" And "leaders" who speak out.... Khalistan and 84 if you want proof Baba Baljit Singh Ji's cassettes Cd's DVD's from india, recorded Live in a Diwan in india Baba Baljit Singh Speaks openly of Khalistan and Of 84 Shaheeds, and Of Sant Baba Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa "Bhindranwale" his speeches can be heard on his cassettes and Cds and DVDS. He also has had trouble with pakhandi gurus like radha soamis and noormahalia's and sirsa wala's. after reading his well thought out response that didn't descend into emotional rambling & his ample proof, i'd be inclined to agree with ss. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H4RPAL Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 Excellent choice of post to illustrate a purely factual, evidence-based argument! But seriously, we should not be too critical- it is wise to weigh up ALL of the options before forming your own personal views, and thus such posts are indeed useful contributions. On many new sites etc, the optionis given to presnt the readers viewpoints/opinions regarding articles, and thus such ramblings can be considered a useful feature. I'm certainly not denying anything in this article, or defending the sant-baba, but the News of the World is hardly a reliable source of factual information itself, so we have the duty to be critical towards what we read in such a publication. Has anyone got the link to the actual location of the articles on the BOSS site? I think they would make an interesting read in light of this controversy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 oh back to behzti... the writer, Gurpreet Kaur Bhatti, has been given an award.. the Susan Smith Blackburn Prize for the most outstanding new English-language play by a woman... for Behzti. Described by the judges as 'writing with courage, skill and intelligence'. wot does cybersangat think?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H4RPAL Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 I think the judges need to judge with some courage, skill and intelligence. Courage because the play was rubbish, so just admit that despite the media attention. Skill and intelligence for similar, and equally obvious reasons 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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