amrit

[x_suman_x]

quite a few people i know especially close family and friends have taken the amrit.

a lot of them are disillusioned into thinking that taking amrit was the final step to meeting akal purakh. unfortunately they also think that they are better than non amritdharis and have so much haumai

this is one of the reasons why i personally am a little bit apprehensive abt taking the amrit. i don't want to become like this

another reason is that alot of the amritdharis who i know 'pick n choose' what they believe in

its not 'pic n mix'

[SAadmin]

this is one of the reasons why i personally am a little bit apprehensive abt taking the amrit. i don't want to become like this

another reason is that alot of the amritdharis who i know 'pick n choose' what they believe in

its not 'pic n mix'

having that kinda mindset has nothing to do with "amrit" itself. Amrit is ever pure, it's our own shortcomnig when we take amrit.

In puratan times, when one were to go to panj pyares to recieve amrit..they were first send to the gurdwara(dharamsala) to do seva, learn gurbani, learn bhram vidya for atleast 6 months, that would cleanse their mind and their mind will be fully determined and ready to take amrit.

Now days, panj pyares have to literally call jagiasoo and make sure if they are coming to amrit sanchar or not..

what can you say? sad state of affairs.. !

[mloco]

true

and thats all part of the challenge too - im pretty sure its harder to control 5 thieves etc after amrit sanchar if you werent already prepared for it.

though things like this are becoming prevalant in the Sikh society, especially in the UK - people think that external things they do will get them sanjog with akaal purkh.

[sherni_ke_dil]

What difference does it make though? If you were to live a life where you worked to better humanity, lived an honest and decent life, led a spiritual life, what difference then would amrit make? Is it a neccesity in this life?

[Amrikingh]

sherni ke dil, it shows thats you have the commitment to being a Sikh

Guru Gobind Singh Ji had taken Amrit from the Panj Pyare, so we can't really argue whether we should take it or not, becoz a Sikh follows his Master, and whatever the Master says the Sikh should take it on board

[sherni_ke_dil]

My question is though, what difference does it make? does it make me a better Sikh or for that matter a better person?

[Amrikingh]

its cleans the five nasha from your past, gives you a clean slate, im sure Neo can enlighten you on that

it depends what you do with Amrit, what you actually make of it, for some it means nothing for some it means everything

maybe makes you a better person, its depends on your intentions when you take Amrit.

im sure it makes you a more commited Sikh, becoz you have showed you have surrendered yourself to your Guru, this is done by taking Amrit

Apna seez dai nah........Surrender Yourself

[x_suman_x]

has any1 on this thread taken the amrit?

[Mystical]

its cleans the five nasha from your past, gives you a clean slate, im sure Neo can enlighten you on that

it depends what you do with Amrit, what you actually make of it, for some it means nothing for some it means everything

maybe makes you a better person, its depends on your intentions when you take Amrit.

im sure it makes you a more commited Sikh, becoz you have showed you have surrendered yourself to your Guru, this is done by taking Amrit

Apna seez dai nah........Surrender Yourself

I thought Guru Ji said that no one can erase past deeds? I think taking Amrit from the 5 Beloved, is like a marriage with you and the Lord, in other words, Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh - The Khalsa Belongs to God, God is always Victorious. But also another extreme is when a Khalsa becomes astray i.e. acted on the nasha of Maya.

P.S. I havnet taken Amrit yet. Best thing is to Naam Jap, you'll feel Amrit Naam and feel intoxicated by the Naam and enjoy.

This Shabad is by Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Raag Soohee on Pannaa 763

raag soohee shha(n)th mehalaa 1 ghar 1

Raag Soohee, Chhant, First Mehl, First House:

ik oa(n)kaar sathigur prasaadh ||

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

bhar joban mai math paeeearrai ghar paahunee bal raam jeeo ||

Intoxicated with the wine of youth, I did not realize that I was only a guest at my parents' home (in this world).

mailee avagan chith bin gur gun n samaavanee bal raam jeeo ||

My consciousness is polluted with faults and mistakes; without the Guru, virtue does not even enter into me.

gun saar n jaanee bharam bhulaanee joban baadh gavaaeiaa ||

I have not known the value of virtue; I have been deluded by doubt. I have wasted away my youth in vain.

var ghar dhar dharasan nehee jaathaa pir kaa sehaj n bhaaeiaa ||

I have not known my Husband Lord, His celestial home and gate, or the Blessed Vision of His Darshan. I have not had the pleasure of my Husband Lord's celestial peace.

sathigur pooshh n maarag chaalee soothee rain vihaanee ||

After consulting the True Guru, I have not walked on the Path; the night of my life is passing away in sleep.

naanak baalathan raaddaepaa bin pir dhhan kumalaanee ||1||

O Nanak, in the prime of my youth, I am a widow; without my Husband Lord, the soul-bride is wasting away. ||1||

baabaa mai var dhaehi mai har var bhaavai this kee bal raam jeeo ||

O father, give me in marriage to the Lord; I am pleased with Him as my Husband. I belong to Him.

rav rehiaa jug chaar thribhavan baanee jis kee bal raam jeeo ||

He is pervading throughout the four ages, and the Word of His Bani permeates the three worlds.

thribhavan ka(n)th ravai sohaagan avaganava(n)thee dhoorae ||

The Husband Lord of the three worlds ravishes and enjoys His virtuous brides, but He keeps the ungraceful and unvirtuous ones far away.

jaisee aasaa thaisee manasaa poor rehiaa bharapoorae ||

As are our hopes, so are our minds' desires, which the All-pervading Lord brings to fulfillment.

har kee naar s sarab suhaagan raa(n)dd n mailai vaesae ||

The bride of the Lord is forever happy and virtuous; she shall never be a widow, and she shall never have to wear dirty clothes.

naanak mai var saachaa bhaavai jug jug preetham thaisae ||2||

O Nanak, I love my True Husband Lord; my Beloved is the same, age after age. ||2||

baabaa lagan ganaae ha(n) bhee va(n)n(j)aa saahurai bal raam jeeo ||

O Baba, calculate that auspicious moment, when I too shall be going to my in-laws' house.

saahaa hukam rajaae so n ttalai jo prabh karai bal raam jeeo ||

The moment of that marriage will be set by the Hukam of God's Command; His Will cannot be changed.

kirath paeiaa karathai kar paaeiaa maett n sakai koee ||

The karmic record of past deeds, written by the Creator Lord, cannot be erased by anyone.

jaan(j)ee naao nareh nihakaeval rav rehiaa thihu loee ||

The most respected member of the marriage party, my Husband, is the independent Lord of all beings, pervading and permeating the three worlds.

maae niraasee roe vishhu(n)nee baalee baalai haethae ||

Maya, crying out in pain, leaves, seeing that the bride and the groom are in love.

naanak saach sabadh sukh mehalee gur charanee prabh chaethae ||3||

O Nanak, the peace of the Mansion of God's Presence comes through the True Word of the Shabad; the bride keeps the Guru's Feet enshrined in her mind. ||3||

baabul dhitharree dhoor naa aavai ghar paeeeai bal raam jeeo ||

My father has given me in marriage far away, and I shall not return to my parents' home.

rehasee vaekh hadhoor pir raavee ghar soheeai bal raam jeeo ||

I am delighted to see my Husband Lord near at hand; in His Home, I am so beautiful.

saachae pir lorree preetham jorree math pooree paradhhaanae ||

My True Beloved Husband Lord desires me; He has joined me to Himself, and made my intellect pure and sublime.

sa(n)jogee maelaa thhaan suhaelaa gunava(n)thee gur giaanae ||

By good destiny I met Him, and was given a place of rest; through the Guru's Wisdom, I have become virtuous.

sath sa(n)thokh sadhaa sach palai sach bolai pir bhaaeae ||

I gather lasting Truth and contentment in my lap, and my Beloved is pleased with my truthful speech.

naanak vishhurr naa dhukh paaeae guramath a(n)k samaaeae ||4||1||

O Nanak, I shall not suffer the pain of separation; through the Guru's Teachings, I merge into the loving embrace of the Lord's Being. ||4||1||

[challenge_everything]

myabe we should all look at the lines

satgur kai janamai gavan mittaaiaa

[Mystical]

Have you got the translations?

[challenge_everything]

This Shabad is by Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Raag Raamkalee on Pannaa 939

ikqu ibiD purKw jnmu vtwieAw ]

kith bidhh purakhaa janam vattaaeiaa ||

"How have you changed the course of your life?

kwhy kau quJu iehu mnu lwieAw ]

kaahae ko thujh eihu man laaeiaa ||

With what have you linked your mind?

ikqu ibiD Awsw mnsw KweI ]

kith bidhh aasaa manasaa khaaee ||

How have you subdued your hopes and desires?

ikqu ibiD joiq inrMqir pweI ]

kith bidhh joth nira(n)thar paaee ||

How have you found the Light deep within your nucleus?

ibnu dMqw ikau KweIAY swru ]

bin dha(n)thaa kio khaaeeai saar ||

Without teeth, how can you eat iron?

nwnk swcw krhu bIcwru ]19]

naanak saachaa karahu beechaar ||19||

Give us your true opinion, Nanak.""||19||

siqgur kY jnmy gvnu imtwieAw ]

sathigur kai janamae gavan mittaaeiaa ||

Born into the House of the True Guru, my wandering in reincarnation ended.

Anhiq rwqy iehu mnu lwieAw ]

anehath raathae eihu man laaeiaa ||

My mind is attached and attuned to the unstruck sound current.

mnsw Awsw sbid jlweI ]

manasaa aasaa sabadh jalaaee ||

Through the Word of the Shabad, my hopes and desires have been burnt away.

gurmuiK joiq inrMqir pweI ]

guramukh joth nira(n)thar paaee ||

As Gurmukh, I found the Light deep within the nucleus of my self.

qRY gux myty KweIAY swru ]

thrai gun maettae khaaeeai saar ||

Eradicating the three qualities, one eats iron.

nwnk qwry qwrxhwru ]20]

naanak thaarae thaaranehaar ||20||

O Nanak, the Emancipator emancipates. ||20||