why is a non-sikh not allowed to be in power?

[amardeep]

Sath shri Akal Jee and may Akaal Purkh bless you all.

i was reading the 51 hukamnammas of Guru Gobind Singh Jee Maharaj, and stopped at this one:

27)Sutantar Vicharna. Raaj Kaaj dian kamaan tae doosrae mutaa dia purshaan noo huk nahi daenaa - Rule Independently? In the affaris of government, do not give people of other religions authority/power.

why is a muslim/hindu not allowed to be in power in a sikh state?

this sounds a bit weird to me :S

and, are we not allowed to visit mosques and mandirs?

42)Darshan yaatraa gurdwaaraa di hi karni - Make pilgrimages to Gurudwaras only.

[mloco]

A) - people of other religions will not understand Sikhi and may not treat it correctly, in terms of autocratic rule, they should not have power

making a pilgrimage is to make a journey to a holy place specifically to get the fruit of visiting that place, and as such should not be done by Sikhs to non-Sikh places. Visiting is another matter altogether, and there is no prolbem with it.

[Guest Javanmard]

which Hukamnama - Rahitnama is it from?

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[Guest Sardar Moderator Singh]

I have been told that these 52 hukams are from Sooraj Prakash Granth by Kavi Santokh Singh, although have no page references.

[amardeep]

i recieved them on a email and all it says was "Guru Gobind Sings 51 hukamnamas"

the email was like this:

1) Dharam di Kirat karni - Earn by honest means.

2) Daswand dena - Give one tenth of your salary.

3) Gurbani kantth karni - Memorize Gurbani.

4) Amrit Vaelae utthna - Wake up Amrit Vela (before dawn).

5) Sikh sewak di sewa ruchi naal karni - Serve a Sikh Servant with devotion.

6) Gurbani dae arth Sikh vidhvana tuo parrhnae- Learn the meanings of Gurbani from Sikh Scholars.

7) Punj Kakaar di Rehat drirh kar rukhni - Follow the discipline of the 5 K's strictly.

8) Shabad da abhihas karna - Practice Shabad Gurbani in life.

9) Sat-Saroop Satgur da dhian dharna - Concentrate on the True Guru (God).

10)Guru Granth Sahib Ji noo Guru mananaa - Accept the Guru Granth Sahib as Guru.

11)Kaarjaan dae arambh vich ardaas karni - At the beginning of a task, do ardaas.

12)Jaman, maran, ja viah mokae Jup da paatth kar tihaaval (Karaah Parsaad) kar anand sahib dia punj paurian, ardaas, pratham punj pyaariaan atae hazoori granthi noo vartaa kae oprunth sangat noo vartaaouna - At birth, death, or marriage ceremonies, do Japji Sahib, make Karaah Parshaad, do five stanzas of anand sahib, do ardaas, and then distribute Karaah Parshaad to the Panj Pyare, the Granthi, and then to the sangat.

13)Jad tak Karaah Parshaad Parshaad vartadaa rahae sadh sangat addol batthee rahae - Until Karaah Parshaad is completely distributed, the Sangat should remain sitting and unmoving.

14)Anand Viah bina grahist nahi karna - Do not start married life without Anand Karaj (Sikh ceremony of marriage).

15)Par-Istri, Ma-Bhain, Dhi-Bhain, kar jaanani. Par Istri da sang nahi karna - Recognize all other women other than your wife as mothers and sisters. Do not engage in marital behavior with them.

16)Istri da mooh nahi fitkaarnaa - Do not silence your wife?

17)Jagat-jootth tambaaku bikhiaa da tiaag karna - Abandon the worldly, false tobacco-poison.

18)Rehatvaan atae naam jupan vaalae gursikhaa di sangat karni - Keep the company of Sikhs who follow the Rehat and meditate on the Name (of God).

19)Kum karan vich daridar nahi karna - Dont't be lazy while doing work.

20)Gurbani di katha tae keertan roaz sunanaa atae karna - Listen and do kirtan and Gurbani discourses daily.

21)Kisae di ninda, chugali, atae eirkha nahi karni - Do not engage in slander, gossip or spite anyone.

22)Dhan, jawaani, tae kul-jaat da abhiman nahi karnaa (Nanak daadak tahe duae goath. Saak guru sikhan sang hoath) - Do not take pride in wealth, youth and caste. (Mother and Father's caste both castes. All Sikhs of the Guru are siblings)?

23)Mat uchi tae suchi rakhni - Keep the religious discipline high and pure.

24)Shubh karman tao kadae naa ttarnaa - Do not refrain from doing Righteous deeds.

25)Budh bal da daataa vaheguroo noo jaananaa - Recognize God as the giver of intellect and strength.

26)Sugandh (kasam sahu) dae kar itbaar janaaoun vaalae tae yakeen nahi karna - Do not believe a person who swears (one who tries/attempts to convince someone with a 'saun or saugandh').

27)Sutantar Vicharna. Raaj Kaaj dian kamaan tae doosrae mutaa dia purshaan noo huk nahi daenaa - Rule Independently? In the affaris of government, do not give people of other religions authority/power.

28)Raajniti parhni - Study politics.

29)Dushman naal saam, daam, bhaed, aadiak, upaa vartnae - With the enemy, practice/deploy the various techniques/tactics of diplomacy (saam, daam, dand, bhed).

30)Shaster vidyaa atae ghorhae di savaari da abhiaas karna - Practice the knowledge of weaponry and horse riding.

31)Doosrae mataa dae pustak, vidyaa parhni. Pur bhrosaa drirh Gurbani, Akal Purakh tae karnaa - Study the books and knowledge of other faiths. But keep trust in Gurbani and Akal Purukh.

32)Gurupdaesaa noo dhaaran karna - Follow the teachings of the Guru.

33)Raheraas da paath kar kharae ho kae ardaas karni - After Rehras Paatth, do Ardaas standing up.

34)Saun valae sohila atae 'paun guru pani pita...' salok parhna - Recite Sohila and 'paun guru pani pita...' stanza before going to sleep.

35)Dastaar bina nahi rehnaa - Wear a turban at all times.

36)Singha da adha naam nahi bulauna - Do not call a Singh by half of their name (nickname).

37)Sharaab nai saevani - Do not partake of alcoholic drinks.

38)Sir munae noo kanaiaa nahi daeni. Uos ghar daevni jithae Akal Purukh di sikhi ha, jo karzaai naa hovae, bhalae subhaa da hovae, bibaeki atae gyanvaan hovae - Do not given a daughter's hand to a clean shaven. Give her hand in a house where God's Sikhi exists, where the household is not in debt, is of a good nature, is disciplined and knowledgable.

39)Subh kaaraj Gurbani anusaar karnae - Do all work in accordance with Gurbani.

40)Chugali kar kisae da kam nahi vigaarnaa - Do not ruin someone's work by gossip.

41)Kaurha bachan nahi kahinaa - Do not utter bitter statements.

42)Darshan yaatraa gurdwaaraa di hi karni - Make pilgrimages to Gurudwaras only.

43)Bachan karkae paalnaa - Fulfill all promises that are made.

44)Pardaesi, lorvaan, dukhi, apung manukh di yataahshkat sewa karni - Do as much sewa as you can for foreigners, the needy and the troubled.

45)Putari da dhan bikh jananaa - Recognize the property of a daughter as poison?

46)Dikhaawae da Sikh nahi bananaa - Do not become an outward show-off Sikh.

47)Sikhi kesaa-suaasa sang nibhaaouni - Live and die a Keshadhaari Sikh

48)Chori, yaari, tthugi, dhokaa, dagaa bahi karnaa - Refrain from engaging in theft, adultery/promiscuity/permissiveness, fraud, deceit, embezzlement.

49)Sikh da itbaar karna - Believe a Sikh.

50)Jhutthi gavaahi nahi daeni - Do not give false testimony.

51)Dhroh nahi karnaa - Do not cheat.

52)Langar-Parshaad ik ras vartaaunaa - Distribute Langar and Karaah Parshaad with equality.

[Mystical]

I have been told that these 52 hukams are from Sooraj Prakash Granth by Kavi Santokh Singh, although have no page references.

You got a website link for this? Cos im having a hard time believing hukam 45.

[Guest Sardar Moderator Singh]

Rupz - I do not have a link for this - as per the poster above these were circulated en masse about 4 or 5 years ago across the internet community.

When I asked for a reference, someone mentioned Sooraj Parkash, however as I stated above, I wasn't provided with a reference nor do I have one.

[amardeep]

i dont have a source unfortunattely...

do u think its a fake?

[Guest]

This has been discussed before :

http://www.sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness...topic.php?t=940

Enjoy !

[amardeep]

thank u for the link ..i'll take a look at it.

[amardeep]

45)Putari da dhan bikh jananaa - Recognize the property of a daughter as poison?

reading the link i was given, this means that any man should keep his hands of his dauthers property as she is an independent individial who can take care of her own property. the same way you stay off poison and dont get near it, you should also stay away from her things.

it has to do with indian culture, where the father will control her daugthers life and supress her most of her life.

DHAN DHAN GURU GOBIND SINGH

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Thanks for clearing that up

[vijaydeep Singh]

Gurfateh

In the army of government of Guru,we had Muslims and

Hindus so we need to see who wrote this 27 section.

Then term comes roam independantly.That may means that in the political indepeandce of Sikhs,they must not surrender thier Right(of political freedom) to non Sikh.It may be more to do with giving away self right of political freedom to non Sikh,then say not taking help of non Sikhs in Sikh political establishment.

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Gurfateh

In the army of government of Guru,we had Muslims and

Hindus so we need to see who wrote this 27 section.

Then term comes roam independantly.That may means that in the political indepeandce of Sikhs,they must not surrender thier Right(of political freedom) to non Sikh.It may be more to do with giving away self right of political freedom to non Sikh,then say not taking help of non Sikhs in Sikh political establishment.

Same vice versa

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