Mystical Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Here is a sakhi I came across on Sikhsangat.com, posted by "jassa", thought i'd share it with you lot. "in satyugh when devils gained power and inder and devta army was defeated by devils they went to akal purakh for help ... akal purakh create a part of its shakti to help devs which was known as chandi .... she killed many daints and helped devs get there raj back as in chandi di war .... but after 6 yugs of war against devils chandi started loosing its power ..... as shakti come from bhakti .... she left the battle field ... and went in mountains hiding and doing taap to gain power from akal purakh ... devil army came serching for her in mountains .... while looking for her they to place where there was an ashram of sadhus .... this place was HEMKUNTH SAHIB .... there was a rishi known as SUMAND RISHI .... sumand rishi was tegh bahadar sahib in satyugh .... devils asked them have they seen any women here ... rishes replyed no .... the leader of devil decided to kill all these saints .... and told his army to attack them ... on seeing this sumand rishi said to his followers we are saints we cant fight ... akal purkh will help us .... he use to sit on the skin of a lion ... he just took it in hands and asked akalpurkh to help him .... from that skin came out a warrior ... which had sarbloh all over his body .... he alone faught with this army of devils for 36 yughs .... while this battle is on ... chandi gained enough power from the taap and came in battle field .... to help him and they both killed all they devils .... this man which sumand rishi created was named as DUSHATDAMAN .... guru gobind singh sahib in sat yugh ... then chandi told dushat daman as he had helped her in sat yugh ..... she will help him in kalyugh .... when he will start a new panth .... and will always help her panth in battle field ... after saying this chandi went back where she came from that is in param jot of akalpurkh .... in kall yugh ... guru sahib decided to create khalsa and decided to call bhagouti .... he order that any one who can call chandi will be given reward ... so a sadu from kashi came to anadpur sahib .... he said he is blessed and can call chandi with his yugh .... guru sahib told him to go on ... he did yugh for 9 months non stop ... at that time the expense of yugh is 10000 rs a day .... after 9 months he failed to call chandi ... so he told guru sahin that chandi is asking for a balli .... they should give the bali of there son that is baba ajit singh then only chandi will give them darshan .... guru sahib replyed ajit singh is a khatri ... it would be better if the balli is given of a brahmin .... so guru ji will give that sadus balli tomorrow .... on hearing this ... that sadhu on that very night ran away to kashi ... after that guru sahib went to place of veshnu devi in anadpur sahib ... did taap there .... on the 40 th day chandi gave guru sahib darshan .... and presented him a khanda with which khalsa was created later .... and told them that akal purkh wants his khalsa to be a kessa dhari and a jaati ...." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystical Posted May 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Actually this topic should be moved to Inspirational Stories/Sakhia/Articles. Sorry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niranjana Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 A few questions for all to ponder over: 1. If one reads the accounts of Chandi in the Dasam Granth, one will note that her story is not based in Sat Jug (even the opening stanzas indicate, “Sadhu Satjug beeteya…â€), however not to worry, another very ‘academic’ and ‘maryada’ inspired website made the same mistake! 2. The story of the chandi paath and Guru Gobind Singh has been adequately addressed by Madanjit Kaur, however in any event, since the Nihangs are one true form of the Khalsa, warriors of Chandi and upholders of the Khalsa Khsatriya Maryada and as such continue to conduct appropriate rites (Chatka, Havan and Chandi Paath), then what happened over the past 100 year alone when it came to defending the Panth at large during various intervals, surely the Nihangs could have summoned the power of Chandi and obtained a Khanda to destroy the Dhust? Or maybe the Namdharis could have done it? …or maybe I’m mistaken and the reason why so many Sikhs have been killed in the modern era is because we still have to give a bali to the Goddess Kali as per the favourite historical texts of the neo-Nihangs for some bhang that Guru Nanak Dev supposedly received? 3. The source of Jassa’s sakhi also in a another sakhi claims that Chandi was born again as the Guru’s wife. Now let me get this straight, Chandi first arrives in Satjug (according to this source, but not according to the Dasam Granth as highlighted above – so up to you which you decide to believe), helps one Samund Rishi and fights alongside Rishi Dhustdaman and promises him that she will return in Kuljug to help him again…OK, then we learn that Guru Sahib supposedly worshipped Chandi at “Veshnu†Devi, Anandpur…whilst simultaneously she is his wife reincarnate??? Even if she was Guru Sahib’s wife, then why would Guru Sahib marry the Devi rather than worship her??? As always, the forum’s views will be appreciated… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guv Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 3. The source of Jassa’s sakhi also in a another sakhi claims that Chandi was born again as the Guru’s wife. Now let me get this straight, Chandi first arrives in Satjug (according to this source, but not according to the Dasam Granth as highlighted above – so up to you which you decide to believe), helps one Samund Rishi and fights alongside Rishi Dhustdaman and promises him that she will return in Kuljug to help him again…OK, then we learn that Guru Sahib supposedly worshipped Chandi at “Veshnu†Devi, Anandpur…whilst simultaneously she is his wife reincarnate??? Even if she was Guru Sahib’s wife, then why would Guru Sahib marry the Devi rather than worship her??? What is the source? Are u sure "she is his wife reincarnate", rather than manifest? sathigur naanak dhaeo hai paramaesar soee|| Satiguru Nanak God is that very Parmeshar Bhai Gurdas Ji Vaaran joth roop har aap guroo naanak kehaayo || You are the light form of Hari Guru Nanak. The Embodiment of Light, the Lord Himself is called Guru Nanak. P. 1480 If Guru Nanak Dev Ji was himself Parmeshar, why didn't he worship himself? From my own (very limited) understanding, Ramchander & Seeta, Krishna & Radha, Guru Nanak Dev Ji & Bibi Nanaki, Guru Gobind Singh Ji & Mata Sahib Devan are all seen as manifestations of Shiv & Shakti. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 From my own (very limited) understanding, Ramchander & Seeta, Krishna & Radha, Guru Nanak Dev Ji & Bibi Nanaki, Guru Gobind Singh Ji & Mata Sahib Devan are all seen as manifestations of Shiv & Shakti. then where would avtar theory fit in? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niranjana Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Guv - fair enough, we'll use the 'manifest' mindset for argument sake, however my limited brain capacity is still at odds with comprehending how Guru Gobind Singh was on one hand married to the 'manifestation' of Chandi and simultaneously worshipped and/or summoned her to receive this mystical Khanda from Chandi on top of the famous mountain? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niranjana Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Oh, one more thing: GUV - you stated "Ramchander & Seeta, Krishna & Radha, Guru Nanak Dev Ji & Bibi Nanaki, Guru Gobind Singh Ji & Mata Sahib Devan are all seen as manifestations of Shiv & Shakti." Rama and Sita...understood (Husband and Wife) Krishna and Radha...understood (Lovers) Guru Gobind Singh and Mata Sahib Devan...understood (Husband and Wife) BUT... Guru Nanak and Bibi Nanaki...Brother and Sister... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 I wondered the same, but I think Guv Ji's point of comparison is the Guru - and "female" Shish relationship. Bibi Nanaki is said to have been Satguru's 1st and one their most devoted disciples... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guv Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Oh, one more thing: GUV - you stated "Ramchander & Seeta, Krishna & Radha, Guru Nanak Dev Ji & Bibi Nanaki, Guru Gobind Singh Ji & Mata Sahib Devan are all seen as manifestations of Shiv & Shakti." Rama and Sita...understood (Husband and Wife) Krishna and Radha...understood (Lovers) Guru Gobind Singh and Mata Sahib Devan...understood (Husband and Wife) BUT... Guru Nanak and Bibi Nanaki...Brother and Sister... Looked up the reference for that... I got the Shiv Shakti bit wrong... "In accordance with the described qualities of Sri Ram Chander and Sita, Nirmala scholars have drawn a parallel here in the relationship and qualities of Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji and his sister Bibi Nanaki. Symbolically, one represents the manifestation of Gyan or knowledge, the other of Bhakti or devotion." Bhavrasamrit Tika P. 79 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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