shaheediyan Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Guru Amardas Ji says: Satjug dharam pair hai chaar|| What are the chaar pair of Satjug? And which ones disappear over the following jug? If this question has been asked before, kindly paste the relevant link. Dhanvaad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kharag Singh Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 from a long shot could it be the four dharams a man should go though in life shishya ghrist sanyaas etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted September 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 No, this baani talks of only one pair being left in Kaljug. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kharag Singh Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 maybe, now im speculating, the four feet could be ways in which to reach god, and in kal yug only two of them are left , the only one left that i can think of of bhakti, and one of the legs of sat yug being tapasya, which is no-longer a path in kal yug. Again just my thoughts and speculations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystical Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 No, this baani talks of only one pair being left in Kaljug. Not one pair but one leg. It'll take longer to get mukti. But in Bhai Gurdas Ji vara said that Guru Nanak came to redeem Kaljug. ========================================================================== chaarae jaagae chahu jugee panchaaein prabh aapae hoaa|| God himself is the justice for the disputes about the duties of the four Ages. aapae paattee kalam aap aapae likhanehaaraa hoaa|| He himself id the paper, the pen and the scribe. baajh guroo andhhaer hai khehi khehi maradhae bahu bidhh loaa|| Without Guru is all darkness and people are killing one another. varathiaa paap jagaathr thae dhhoul ouddeenaa nisadhin roaa|| The sin pervades all around and the (mythological) ox supporting the earth is weeping and wailing day and night. baajh dhaeiaa bal heen ho nghir chalae rasaathal ttoaa|| Without compassion, getting unnerved, it is descending towards nether world to get lost. kharraa eik thae pair thae paap sang bahu bhaaraa hoaa|| Standing on one foot, it is feeling the load of sins. thhanmae koe n saadhh bin saadhh n dhsiai jag vich koaa|| Now this earth cannot be upheld without the saints and no saint is available in the world. dhharam dhhaal pukaarai thalae kharroaa ||aa|| Religion in the form of ox is crying beneath. sunee pukaar dhaathaar prabh gur naanak jag maahin pathaayaa|| The benefactor Lord listened to the cries (of humanity) and sent Guru Nanak to this world. charan dhhoe rehiraas kar charanaamrith skhiaan peelaayaa|| He washed His feet, eulogised God and got his Disciples drink the ambrosia of his feet. paarabreham pooran breham kalijug andhar eik dhikhaayaa|| He preached in this darkage (kaliyug) that, saragun (Brahm) and nirgun (Parbrahm) are the same and identical. chaarai pair dhharanm dhae chaar varan eik varan karaayaa|| Dharma was now established on its four feet and all the four castes (through fraternal feeling) were converted into one caste (of humanity). raanaa rank baraabaree paireen pavanaa jag varathaayaa|| Equating the poor with the prince, he spread the etiquette of humbly touching the feet. oulattaa khael piranm dhaa pairaan oupar sees nivaayaa|| Inverse is the game of the beloved; he got the egotist high heads bowed to feet. kalijug baabae thaariaa saathanaam parrh manthr sunaayaa|| Baba Nanak rescued this dark age (kaliyug) and recited ‘satinam’ mantr for one and all. kal thaaran gur naanak aayaa ||aa|| Guru Nanak came to redeem the kaliyug. http://www.searchgurbani.com/main.php?book...=1&pauri=22 http://www.searchgurbani.com/main.php?book...i=23&vaar=1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylitol Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 right, religon was more stable in satjug as it stood on four feet. in kaljug, being only on one foot, religion is far less stable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted September 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Pair as in foot not 2... The question still is, what are the 4 pair? And which pair (foot) is the one left in Kaljug? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 are you sure it means foot ,and not pehar which is a stage ie 8 pehar in one day? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted September 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Yes I'm sure, according to my basic understanding of Punjabi and various translations I've read. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted October 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Satjug - Brahma The chaar pair: 1 - Tirath 2 - Tapasya 3 - Daya 4 - Daan Tretajug - Sri Ram Chandra 3 pair - less Tirath? Dvaapur - Krishna Maharaj 2 pair - less Tapasya? Kaljug - Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji 1 pair - Naam/Daan (less Daya). & 4 stages of life of 100 years: Brahmchari Grihishti Baan prasi Sanyasi As per Baba Jagjit Singh Ji Harkhowale (thanks for the videos <>). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylitol Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 it takes less time to get mukti in kaljug than in anyother age. it's harder to follow dharm in this age and so the reward is greater. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds123 Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 veer shaheediyan, Can you give the link to the katha please. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted October 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-13...h&plindex=2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.