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ppl...where were you wen the anti sikh bhagat singh was going against chandi di vaar on this this forum claiming it was some shiva something..i cont even remember his bull..s**t .this prick bhagat sing is actauly jasbir looking to copy kanwar...so before you say "who is jasbir?"...ill say "research people.."..and for the sikhs falling for his works..please look at pictures of our gurus on google and devteh, and how he has conveniently adjusted it..original??..hmm you tell me??

it's soo good following sikhi in a blanket environment... like those in Canada and u.s....let me predict the response..."just meditate and feel the sh*tness"....id rather fight with guru gobind singh ji's energy

@amardeep start traveling and meeting people... if you need contacts ill give you a few to meet...

The response is more concerning than the original concern....

it could be goreh or Europeans.....i think Europeans personally..in my opinion European especially polish, Albanian are very strong.. i've had altercations with them and when they hit it hurts..lol its all this terrorist sh1t that got our people targeted..again no long thing, just our lot need to stick together.in my opinion we will have no choice as the greedy egotistical sikh will need to seek physical help when his own security is threatened.. im monah myself, and the only people in mass to fight are moneh, the amritdharis and keshadhari run a mile to relax in their own security...no word of a lie, a mahapursh actually said to me ...."when it kicks off, the moneh will stand and the kesadhari will look to be clean shaven"...take of it what you want from that comment..up to you..

i've also done jaaps of other mantes from dasam bani, i dont want to go on but its just sooo natural for me, plus im more yodhaa type....so it makes sense to me plus i know who i was in previous lives so its no biggie to me... my personal opinion is this...when you choose a manter its a khed of prem....vaheguru is the ultimate mantra as baba nanak meditated for several yugs to create this mantra (for those who want mukhti)...in vaheguru is gyatri.......it seems like you are more active and yodha type but you feel guilty into being shant and smiley face...theres nothing to be guilty about, people like us wait for instructions of the tenth master to execute...in the praise of baba nanak...the waiting game is prem or is it not??.........

lol! this is the best comment i have read here on this site for a long time. though to be fair, he admits it turns his mind to God etc. and people here say they are suffering from these things. looks like typical comments from pappus from a middle class family who failed to fit into a non religious society and they went to plan b of practicing/interpreting religion from a worldly academic method..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3655972/Teenage-yobs-smash-Sikh-temple-violent-rampage-post-gloating-video-Snapchat.ht I also heard that barking gurdwara in east london got broken into last night, maharaj kirpa they did not step foot into sachkhand.. My UK brothers, don't be pappus..please man step up when you need to, dont get fascinated by the papuland....as well as our bhagti it is our duty to physically protect gurdwareh and our girls (grooming...its getting ridiculously embarrassing now..come on man)..i know this grooming has nothing to do with the gurdwara attacks i just took it as an opportunity to raise the issue, if you are not the fighting type, its all good, just support the fighting types...the non fighting types prayers, ardaas, jaaps and general material backing helps big time...i love my uk sikhs, we are unique and the heartbeat of sikhi outside india, we just need unity..

If you've got all the material privileges and still feel empty, even to the point that you 'loose interest' in sikhi/god etc i personally see it as a good sign a wave which you must ride, if you really want god..from someone who comes through a lot of hardships and now benefiting from fruits of the material world i would defiantly say without doubt i felt closer to god in those bad times, in fact i sometimes feel i want to go back into hard times to feel the thirst for maharaj/god/vaheguru...as long as you get regular meals and have a secure home to rest your head, count this as a big blessing, really big...thats all we need.. nothing else...its your individual khed so you may or may not find another in your shoes....in low times you can really go deep in yourself, so again i reiterate its a blessing, its not always a case of feeling good via dyaan its also a combination of vairaag from lonliness, down feeling etc.. remember you are not feeling low..so who is??

@chatanga1.. he may have been fed something, ever look into that??

Its true this forum is not our real reality/identity (maybe for some) so i get the argument for sharing experiences..which is a good thing i suppose.. But anyway do not beat yourself up about this, just carry on, not as if you did ardas for chalisa or anything...even if you did, he knows all, as in.. there's no need for justification to someone who already knows..let it go and move on, maharaj is there always it is the "you" who is stuck.. ive got to thank you, (im not a thank you person, im more 'get on wiv it' person)...as since my last post on this thread ive just been doing this jaap, its soo natural and im very receptive to this manter..this defo comes from previous life jaaps/dyaan/kamai etc.. i knind of felt guilty not doing the usual gurmanter/mool manter jaap as i was to in tune with this manter maybe im not like others who want to dissolve in the one but celebrate akaal purkhs creation like the sargun does aarti of nirgun...its still one.. guilt comes with fear, whats to fear, whos to fear... be fearless...like a yodha...

people that believe that our guru's suffered from kaam krodh etc, well simple bounce from their vichaar, no need to prove them wrong, narakh need to be filed as well!!...their vichaar is from their own ego..

@Ragmaala wise up bruva...this @HappyDays grand papa is no other than shrooms.

I feel on the basic levles of controlling ego at the moment is to be quiet, but like you say its not going to be overcome by silence itself. When i say quiet i mean do not express this energy when it creaps up via words as this is like you say basic low level ego. I agree, as long as its not the fake nimrata expression (which is annoying) and prema bhagti is key (easiest way) to this as its all about you (vaheguru) not me (I). Like you say its effective/potent and this is with gurprasad, i used to think gurprasad was one spontanious moment but now feel that its a progression, every second being on this path is progression (gurprasad), but until we reach that bhramgyan level where we can say "i am god" its a slippery slope as at this point ego has gone.. I read bhramachariya by sivananda years ago and two thing which always stuck in my mind was he mentioned that if you curse/hate kaam it will show its ugly face to you, and this was shortly followed by a story he shared where one mahapursh allowed a women to massage his feet and after this incident he became very kaami and ultimatley went back to square one. I know this is of kaam but i suppose it works for all chors in the same sort of manner. . Thats top notch!!

Thanks for reply das..but as much as i try to battle ego, its really is an area which in itself seems to be unknown, well for me.. from my understanding ego as in haumai,as in me which is to be avoided but ahankar needs to been instilled in the shukhsham sareer, albeit at a subtle level, for one to "experience" or to "act"...there is sill ego ive read a few of your post and i seem to be more attuned to your way of thinking in terms of gyan, if you could throw a few darts of experience to the board of knowledge i 'd be very great full, (if you like, of course)..if not..its all good also an observation of others and myself, of course, there always seems to be an element of ego, as in i achieved "look at me", how can this be overcome?, for me im thinking and practicing just to be silent (which is very, very hard for me)....

i feel so inferior listening to this...(ego breaker, in its parts)and im soo full of ego and krodh..

ffs..ok..she aint here to trap guys shes just got a bouncy energy that some get attracted too..shes a good person.my mistake, i was wrong...sorry..

when he talks about committing suicide it does feel like he genuinely means it, well to me anyway..

i was specifically talking to ragmaala in regards to do certain things, if he needed to, and did mention for him to pm me which was an indication that i would not share openly here...soo.. it is what it is.. put your foot on the gas and crack on bruv..good luck!!

Plus if he did be politically correct and a 'yes man' he could be making alot more money aswell so fair play.. Klit has to come in with hooks and uppercuts and tyson will just box him and dance around the ring.. Plus last fight was in his back yard and they put a shit ring (spongy ring) which makes it more difficult to move around quickly and the fury team threatened to walk away from the fight unless it was changed, these little things show klit was worried in the last fight.. My money is on fury clear points win or by ko but this is heavyweight boxing, one punch is a game changer... Con't wait!! This is his old man having a rant....think he went ott with 'bow down to my son' but it is funny as hell..

@Ragmaala Yeh in that case put your foot down and if things do go abit pear shaped just pm me and there's small practical things that will help control/harness the shakti.. these are things suggested to me by baba joginder singh (raqba) ..saying that it may just be a case of karm accelerating.. Im defo with you on the fast rhythm and flow when doing loud jaap but i would also do dhyaan recting this manter and it would start fast but then goes really slow..i loved it but now spending time with mool manter which for me seems a bit of a chore sometimes esp with jaap....i actually avoided this thread but now im feeling to go back to the gayatri manter lol.. i genuinely wish you luck with this jaap and hope you get what you desire... Im not sure at all what needs to be done or if it has specific benefits ie get a job/wife/house etc but its a shakti manter.. I did it as i was getting 'signs' to do this and i did sava lakh in 40 days and started at 3am and kept satogun diet on top of my nitnem (not 5 bani nitnem just my personal one) but i was not working then so had a lot of time on my hands... but after initial jaap i carried on with this manter which i really enjoyed, english language is crap, i say enjoyed but its was more anand. being detached but involved..its weird and hard to explain i just asked google baba about this manter and got this from yogi bhajan....i agree with the part where you start seeing things before they happen but at same time you do not want to be stuck at this, its like seeing a nice blossom tree and moving on then to stand there admiring it..saying that i feel this happens with all manters, a good friend of mine cannot read gurbani just does dyaan on mool manter and recites this all day and he mentioned such things aswell... The Eight Facets of God Excerpts from a lecture on 9/11/76 This is a sound which anybody and everybody can pick up. These are eight facets of God, eight sides of God: Gobinday, Mukanday, Udaaray, Apaaray, Hariang, Kariang, Nirnaamay, Akaamay Pick up the notes. The brain has the capacity to automatically pick it up. These words existed before any language existed. Just pick up the rhythm and that's all you have to learn. These are called rhythm mantras. Rhythm mantras are meant to pick you up into the ether. This is one mantra in the world which balances the ether and the Earth. You can sing it anyway. You can sing it driving, sitting, eating, sleeping; it doesn't matter. Whenever you utter it, all facets of God will be right in you. Now, when you will do this, after a while you will start seeing lots of things. You will say something and it will happen; don't worry. Just keep on doing it. Life is a living experience between the finite and Infinity. “The Guru Gaitri Mantra of Guru Gobind Singh has the power of the four Vedas, six Puranas and thirty-six Simritis. All these are equal to reciting the Guru Gaitri just once. Traditionally, only a person who has been initiated by a guru is entitled to chant a gaitri. Whosoever shall chant it, the Primal Power, the Adi Shakti, will guard that being. This mantra is a ‘Shakti’ mantra. Shakti gives one the positive power of God. If you chant this mantra, there shall be no enemy, including one’s own ego, which can overpower you. It is a mantra of deathlessness.” –Yogi Bhajan (7/9/75) © The Teachings of Yogi Bhajan

RIP....

lol.... do you take it everyday or just days when you train??

When i said 'what the point' i didn't mean to come across as its irrelevant but sometimes when you talk about direct experiences its really a case of showing off ... you may or may not get mystical experiences form this jaap... like i said it helped in my worldy affairs..it felt like knots being untied, you ever been in a position when a thin thread had a knot init and you try so hard to untie it and get nowhere then someone comes a long and unties it with relative ease, thats how i feel when reflecting on this jaap..i still do this jaap now and again. I actually felt guilty when doing these jaaps for material gain but when i looked at spiritual people here in uk, most if not all had financial security/stability,something i've never had, and i wondered would they be so spiritual and god orientated if that worldy security was swept away from under their feet..hhmm not sure bro but also contemplating on others, maharaj has loooked after them from the start for them to enjoy his fruits.. its probably best if you start the jaap and if you feel ok about it, share it on here (something i wouldn't do, but each to their own).. be warned you will get a lot of rukaavat especially if you do ardas to complete x amout of jaap in x amount of days for a specific gain/phall.. for jaap itself, when i first started i recited with mouth (loud) over time it became mental to the point i would be doing jaap in head and working and/or doing daily activities at same time...even now sometimes that manter automatically starts in my mind and i go with it and enjoy it.. With jaap, look at your situation and be practical.. its like food, its best eaten when sitting down and in a relaxed mode eating slowly, basically enjoying the food/taste, but if your in a rush you tend to eat fast and sometimes even stand and eat...point being in both scenarios you cater for hunger and are satisfied at the end..things i would suggest is if you got time, do x amount a day sitting down maybe with dhoop/jot and water which you sprinkle around room and drink rest of it. Have you done this jaap or started it?? don't just do it for the sake of it as you may end up being disappointed, if you have a strong natural desire and 'signs' are saying do it, then put your foot down and get on with it..