Kaur Inder

Here is a recording by Sant Kartar Singh Ji
 

Eckhart Tolle 
Excerpt from: A New Earth 
Awakening
-A MUST READ-
**The initiation of the awakening process is an act of grace. You cannot make it happen nor can you prepare yourself for it or accumulate credits toward it.**
Awakening is a shift in consciousness in which thinking and awareness separate. For most people it is not an event but a process they undergo. Even those rare beings who experience a sudden, dramatic, and seemingly irreversible wakening will still go through a process in which the new state of consciousness gradually flows into and transforms everything they do and so becomes integrated into their lives.
Instead of being lost in your thinking, when you are awake you recognize yourself as the awareness behind it. Thinking then ceases to be a self­serving autonomous activity that takes possession of you and runs your life. Awareness takes over from thinking. Instead of being in charge or your life, thinking becomes the servant of awareness. Awareness is conscious connection with universal intelligence. Another word for it is Presence: consciousness without thought.
The initiation of the awakening process is an act of grace. You cannot make it happen nor can you prepare yourself for it or accumulate credits toward it. There isn't a tidy sequence of logical steps that leads toward it, although the mind would love that. You don't have to become worthy first. It may come to the sinner before it comes to the saint, but not necessarily. That's why Jesus associated with all kinds of people, not just the respectable ones. There is nothing you can do about awakening. Whatever you do will be the ego trying to add awakening or enlightenment to itself as its most prized possession and thereby making itself more important and bigger. Instead of awakening, you add the concept of awakening to your mind, or the mental image of what an awakened or enlightened person is like, and then try to live up to that image. Living up to an image that you have of yourself or that other people have of you is inauthentic living – another unconscious role the ego plays.
So if there is nothing you can do about wakening, if it has either already happened or not yet happened, how can it be the primary purpose of your life? Does not purpose imply that you can do something about it?
Only the first awakening, the first glimpse of consciousness without thought, happens by grace, without any doing on your part. If you find this incomprehensible or meaningless, it has not yet happened to you. If something within you responds to it, however, if you somehow recognize the truth in it, it means the process of awakening has begun. Once it has done so, it cannot be reversed, although it can be delayed by the ego. For some people, the reading will initiate the awakening process. For others, the function is to help them recognize that they have already begun to awaken and to intensify and accelerate the process. Another function of this book is to help people recognize the ego within them whenever it tries to regain control and obscure the arising awareness.
For some, the awakening happens as they suddenly become aware of the kinds of thoughts they habitually think, especially persistent negative thoughts that they may have been identified with all of their lives. Suddenly there is an awareness that is aware of thought but is not part of it.
What is the relationship between awareness and thinking? Awareness is the space in which thoughts exist when that space has become conscious of itself.
Once you have had a glimpse of awareness or Presence, you know it firsthand. It is no longer just a concept in your mind. You can then make a conscious choice to be present rather than to indulge in useless thinking. You can invite Presence into your life, that is to say, make space. With the grace of awakening comes responsibility. You can either try to go on as if nothing has happened, or you can see its significance and recognize the arising of awareness as the most important thing that can happen to you. Opening yourself to the emerging consciousness and bringing this light into this world then becomes the primary purpose of your life.
“I want to know the mind of God,” Einstein said. “The rest are details.” What is the mind of God? Consciousness. What does it mean to know the mind of God? To be aware. What are the details? Your outer purpose, and whatever happens outwardly.
So while you are perhaps still waiting for something significant to happen in your life, you may not realize that the most significant thing that can happen to a human being has already happened within you: the beginning of the separation process of thinking and awareness.
Many people who are going through the early stages of the awakening process are no longer certain what their outer purpose is. What drives the world no longer drives them. Seeing the madness of our civilization so clearly, they may feel somewhat alienated from the culture around them. Some feel that they inhabit a no­man's land between two worlds. They are no longer run by the ego, yet the arising awareness has not yet become fully integrated into their lives. Inner and outer purpose have not merged.

Please listen to Sriman 108 Sant Gyani Gurbachan Singh jee Khalsa Bhindranwale narrating 4 arths of the above verses. There might be more arths to them
 
 
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And if someone can explain its actual meaning to me that would be great. 

Today is Lohri. Happy Lohri to all.
Let us remember and sing the praises of the great child Bhagat of Sri Waheguru jee.
Dhan Dhan Bhagat Parhlad jee

 
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Absolutely correct.. 

It may well exist in Sanatan Mat, and in Sikhi too. But a couple of points brother: It does not define the faith. It is not a fundemental of the faith. Nor is it an absolute necessity. And it certainly isn't a core teaching for those who choose grist jeevan.
As for the Christianity comments, those were in response to you saying that all types of sexual activity, as a whole, are an outright "sin"; an attitude which was prevelant in many Christian societies (and still is in some). This is partly one of the reasons why sex is viewed with such a liberal attitude in the west today. It being a "sin" simply isn't true for Sikhi.
Sexual repression can be dangerous, and can have damaging personal and social consequences.
I'm not denying celibacy as a concept. It has its advantages, but it is not for the masses. It is reserved for select individuals. Celibacy in marriage, as ridiculous as I think it may be, works for some and that's fine, but such teachings are not for widespread consumption as they do not apply to the majority and are not promoted in Sikhi as a must or even as something one should strive for.
To promote it as unquestionable doctrine is a complete misrepresentation of grist jeevan in Sikhi.
If, and when, a couple make the decision to live a life of married celibacy, then the info is out there for them, and if they are truly committed to it they shall find it as it's only intended for those who have voluntarily made such a choice.
My humble Namaskaar to the great Rishis and their Gyaan which still lives on today. But lets be real here, the chances of one becoming a Rishi in todays day and age, are extremely far and few between.
Those who practise celibacy, married or not, Rishis or not, practise it not because sex is a sin/bad/evil, but because it's not compatible with their preferred lifestyle. They see it a a hindrance to their specific goals, goals I might add, which the majority are not aiming for nor intend to.

Waheguru Dhan Baba Jawala Singh Ji. Das has a lot of prem and satkar for Baba Jawala Singh Ji

I agree with u on this..👍🏻 So many people think sex is a sin. We are suppose to keep sex under control and not keep thinking it’s a sin even with our partner in marriage. Everything becomes sin when not under control.. it doesn’t apply only for sex. 

Fair enough, but that is their interpretation. Plus Sants/Babe are not infallible IMO. Also, what they say does not apply to everyone.
What about to strengthen the bond between man and wife? Sex is more than just for pleasure. If it is only for procreation, then why get married in the first place? It does not make sense logically. Why such importance on Anand Kaaraj or on married life? Why not just have babies out of wedlock?
Science is so advanced now, why don't people use that to produce children? Because according to what you're saying, sex is now obsolete.
This is a extreme and somewhat ridiculous observation. So that means having sex for the purpose of procreation is also a sin which is even more ridiculous.
That means pretty much everything we do is a sin.
I do know what it means. I may be new to this forum but I'm not new to Sikhi! Good point, I only know of one Sikh who keeps Bibek. Never met him though.
Now I'm confused. So Guru Sahib has given permission to enjoy sex for pleasure? You do have a good point about wasting energy. But many people waste energy on other things too, such is unavoidable in grist jeevan.
Sex can also have a spiritual component.
Fight the demon of kaam by having each other as on outlet in the sanctity of marriage. Different Sangat play different roles. If you cannot have sex with your partner except for procreation, then again, why not just have kids out of wedlock and use other Sangat to help you fight kaam?
 
Lastly you seem to be making a huge assumption that every Sikh is reaching for Brahmgyaanihood, which if you look at reality, is never gonna happen.
 

Here is a similar vichar by Baba Jarnail Singh Ji
 

Gyani Kulwant Singh jee briefly explains when will one receive Anand (and its relation with Budhi).
 
 
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Anything recited or approved (even though written by someone else) by Sri Satguru jee (whether included or not in the saroop) will be considered Gurbani or Gurvaak by Sikhs.
Most likely, the sampradas did not raise an objection as they believed that Sri Satguru jee himself did not include those banis in the saroop. No one can override the decision of the master himself. Like for example, in Sri Sooraj Prakash, it is mentioned that Maharaaj (Fifth Master) himself decided to not include Sri Pran Sangli in the Saroop. He decided to Jal Parvah it, but later a Sadhu was given the Bani upon his request.
Even if Sri Raagmala Sahib was written by someone else, as long as it was approved by Sri Satguru jee, it will be considered as Gurbani by Sikhs. 
 
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Beautiful 

Beautiful 

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That's good understanding,, but we have to keep an open mind and some of these vichaars have depths beyond our reach. I have tried to keep it simplistic and this is mostly my own understanding and interpretation. All errors are mine and i stand corrected.
 
It's a deep question, but as you mention, chetan dissolves completely into atma at brahmgyan avastha. You can tell that Babaji has a deep and profound understanding of this and it's difficult to put in words for common man.  He's answered a question using chosen words that cover a lot of scope and I'm certain that he could talk for hours about this topic alone. He’s also given some subtle hints that should be thought provoking depending on seeker’s intellect.
I do have a hell of a lot to say about atma and chetan/chit,(consciousness), but it’s really recognized through effort and experience.   For now, I’ll briefly share a few points in line with what Babaji said, and you may realise why I really admired his words.
For arguments sake, lets stick with the terms -
Atma=Soul,
Paramatma= Supreme single soul/nirankar
Chit/Chetun=Consciousness. 
To recognise and differentiate between them, is fundamental for realisation; in my opinion.
Imagine the universe at a moment before creation. Gurbani tells us that only he was present, and he was within himself. “Sargun Nirgun Nirankar sunn samadhi aap - apan keea Nanaka aapey hi phir jaap”. Visualise this for a second to picture the creation happening after this moment. That moment was the “ONG” or the big-bang.  Remember the meaning of IK-ONG-KAR.  Ik= singularity of one before creation.  Then came the “ONG” shabad sound, followed by the “KAR”(creation). The doer(IK) did the creation(KAR) with the Ong
Gurbani says “sunn samadhi aap” he was in primal samadhi in the void within himself. This “within himself” in sunn samadhi is crucial because when referring to that moment before creation; nothing had been created yet. At that point, it was just ‘IK’
It may help if you imagine a still, single point as IK. The big bang theory even calls this the 'moment of singularity'. It is at this stage, when there were no manifestation of Sargun or Nirgun, but it was just Nirankar himself. (No akaar =Nirankar, whereas Sargun & nirgun are akaar)
Bearing this in mind, it can help understand why two terms translated as formless (nirgun and nirankar) are used.  Nirgun, refers to  ‘after creation’ meaning = without form, without attributes etc.  Nirankar refers to that singularity, the IK himself before any creation, before any akaar. Now, when we bring in Atma and Chetan, it can help understand where they fit in. The topic itself is huge because it brings in everything like manmat, gurmat, brahmagyan, turiya avastha and much more of gurbani from comprehending this Ik-ong-kar alone along Nirankar (without akaar or consciousness)
When IK is by itself, just before moment of ong-kar, then we could also say that the almighty single soul/atma is Paramatma. It may be helpful to visualise a light(jyot) that is akin to a singularity point or dot… imagine this jyot as not radiating and not yet emitting light to the surroundings. It’s that trillionth of a second from when you turn the light switch on in a dark room, to when the room lights up. The moment when the bulb filament has just ignited and the luminosity is still within the bulb and not expanded out into the room. In this trillionth of a sec, the MOTION is not in play yet…This motion that I’m referring to is what came into play from the IK. This is the Consciousness. It is the Chetan or Chit within, and around us.
As the jyot or Ik, begins to radiate outwards and expand, we could say that it’s all executed via an increasing flux of Chetan/Consciousness. The expanding universe and worlds were created in this instant. We also know, that he is STILL creating because science tells us the universe is still expanding.  The “kar” is done but is also continuing to be created.
Q) What happened at the moment of Ong-kar/creation and what changed about God?
A) Initially, God was in a primal nothingness void and in deep samadhi within himself. There was no creation yet. Whereas after, he became God the creator, and he is now the creator and creation itself.  Gurbani refers to this attribute as “Gobind” ( lord of the universe)
According to old texts and to my understanding, this moment of creation when consciousness came into play, is when duality was created. Prior to this, there were no duality except atam/paramatma.
-The Ik was singular, ..Advait(non-dual)..........Atam, Paramatam was singular..........-no motion or time in play. 
This is the Shiv-shakti, with the shakti being the consciousness.
Babaji mentions this in the recording and refers to Chetan as the shakti which is everywhere and comes from Paramatma.
  He gave the analogy of the electrical items like bulb, heater etc that won’t work or become active unless the shakti of electric flow is present.  In the same manner, consciousness is active in the whole of existence.
   You may be aware that for some years now, quantum physics has determined that the whole universe is very much alive with this “consciousness”.  It’s also important to understand that consciousness/chetan is dualistic. When this consciousness came into existence; it started to emanate and expand outwards from Paramatma. This is when duality also became a reality.
 
In summary, …
*very original point of IK, or that non-emitting jyot is Paramatma,... this is also NIRANKAR (without consciousness and without akar)  NOTE- GOD"S consciousness was all within himself and not in creation
*The enormous flux of energy/shakti that has radiated and expanded out from it, is  the Consciousness/Chetan.
May also try and picture as if trillions of photons/light particles emanating outwards, are “atma’s” coming from Paramatma.  In Babaji’s recording where he gave the analogy of the electric current akin to Chetan/consciousness, he said the Chetan is a shakti flowing around and within us.  Just like electrical items and appliances, our indries(senses and motor functions), are all controlled and functioning under the Chetan/Consiocusness. Even the involuntary organs function through the same consciousness via subtle energies/prana.  The Consciousness stems from the atma that we have inside us. Babaji gave analogy of root and stem. Just like the mind, we can merge the consciousness into the atma/paramatma. He gave example of Bhai Mani Singh and how he directed his Chetan away from all indiries and sareer, and channeled it into the atam. All that remained was the atam in it’s purest state  This is the inner yoga, where one “jog’s”(joins) the consciousness into the soul.
 

Thank u so much.. 🙏🏻

So did I said something else? That’s what I said ego is there doesn’t matter if u do khulla pehra or chalisa. But some people bring ego  within chalisa and says I did this many or he/she did this amount of paths or jaaps and with khulla they don’t judge..  It’s the intentions and how they do it and why they do it and for what they do it. It’s different for everyone. 

Oh ok I said that like that was a question from me to that poster coz he said don’t get stuck in counting and ego something like that. So I was asking him like what counting and ego.. 🙏🏻 Hanji misunderstanding ji. 

Thank u so much.. 🙏🏻

Brother Shivam,
Naam, is within each and every jeeva, irrespective of any dharam,caste, color, creed, age, or gender, or be it a mahapurukh, or a theif, dacoit or a non believer, it is within each and everyone of us. Nam is the highest level of consciousness, with countless virtues, can be summarized in as we all know: Sach/Truth-  Chit/Pure Consciousness - Anand/Bliss
it is not that it is only within sikhs, or hindus,  and not in muslims, christians, buddhists, ...etc, for Nam is the Origin, the Creator of everything.
Guru Jee, in the beginning of the Mool Mantar clearly says: Ik Oankar,  Sat-Nam.  He says: there is only One Lord Creator, which is Nam, and that Nam is sat/sach, which means, it is the only eternal  everlasting Truth. That is why Guru Jee called it Sat-Nam.
Moreover the Bani referring to that Nam, tells us : Aad Sach, jugaad Sach, hae bhee Sach, Nanak hosee bhee sach.
This Nam, is also referred in the Bani as: Shabad, Sachee Bani, Dhur kee Bani, Amrit, Amrit Bani, Anahad Bani....etc. 
The thing is many of us, take Nam literally as a mantar, a word or something utter able, be it in any language. 
But let us ask ourselves, if Nam was a word, a phrase, or a couplet of words, that would not be possible, because how can a word or a handful of words create the infinite creation? 
Moreover, in what language?
For when He exists alone by Himself, since the very beginning, who was there to address Him, or call Him? With which mouth, or in which language?
He, can be described as an Infinite Ocean of Light and Shabad or Dhun. So if in a manner, if the sun has no caste or creed, what caste or creed can a mamulee jeeva atma, a ray of that Light, have?  If an ocean has no caste or creed, what caste or creed can  a mamulee drop of that ocean have? it is by braham, we say we are this, or that one is so, or so.  And due to that braham, fools blinded by the agyanta, and under hatred, ahankar, and ego, fight and kill in the name of dharam/religion.
That also, when in the Bani, referring to that primal force as  Jot/Light, Guru Jee clearly says : Sabh meh Jot, Jot hae soee. 
That Nam is Jot, and that very Jot is within every being, as a ray of that Jot.
There can be many words, in many languages, to describe that One Truth, but all aim to that ultimate reality. Christians call it Word or Logos, muslims call it Kun, chinese call it Tao, etc
Now, what you call Naam Daan,  it is not that, Naam is given to anybody, because as said before, Nam is within everybody already, without it we can not even exist for a second. When He infuses that ray of Nam within anybody, that being becomes conscious being/living being, be it in any joonee. And when He withdraws, that ray of Nam, we cease to exist, and parlays, and mahaparlays take place, and the creation at all levels also comes to an end, until once again, He, Wahiguru Akal Purukh, out of His Mauj, wants to create again.
So you see, what you refer as Naam daan, I would say, is a technique, a jugtee, to make pargat that Nam within us, which already exists, but of which due to the filth of our karmas, vices, man, maya, sanskaras, senses, we are unable to perceive that reality of Nam.
So brother, if the path of Radha Soami Satsang Beas, tells you to wait until you are 25, then try to read more literature, read the Bani, in order to understand and convince yourself, what is right for you, do not rush into anything.
The path is already within also,  and if you are to tread that path, or any other, do not worry, nobody can ever push you away, nor pull you along, for your destiny is only yours, it is a matter of time only.
For the mean time, as brother das has written in his post, keep an eye on your karam, in order to stay clean, and do seva as he has suggested also.
Stay blessed.
Sat Sree Akal.
 
 

That’s ok when used as a med.. even nowadays it’s been used as a Med in a limited quantity like when prescribed by a doc.. I’m concerned about those who don’t need any medicine I mean physically healthy but still using it and they do it by taking vaheguru’s name. Like using it in degh and making shardayi and while making it they keep chanting vaheguru.. and I haven’t listened to the link yet.. forgive me for any mistakes 🙏🏻

Thanks for this explanation and for ur time. But I don’t know why I can’t agree with this. I can understand the part where back in days Singh’s needed something to relieve their pains as they use to fight and do Jungs and whatever u mentioned that’s fine but that was something needed at THAT time.. but we don’t need all that at this present moment so just because it was used at those times people keep doing it today where they don’t even need it and thn they bring up with all these like u quoted and mentioned Guru Ji and shiv ji thn we just keep our mouth shut because obviously we don’t know the actual truth and don’t have the right knowledge about all this to speak against it.. And as u mentioned that it’s consumption helps focus more on gods true name This is something I can NEVER agree with.. what kind of remembrance that would be in which we need to take help of a drug, doesn’t matter if it’s natural or whatever.. it still is a drug.. And I don’t think it’s about narrow mindedness it’s about doing what’s right and going with a better option... yes I know it’s natural and more safer drug and it helps in making u feel relaxed but that doesn’t mean we HAVE TO do what they needed to do at those times.. thn I can get high on weed and I can say oh this is something my guru did and it’s shiv ji’s fav drug. That’s what my point is.. people when they don’t need to do it but still do it and thn they bring this thing that it was done by Singh’s at those times. Taken at a limited quantity only when needed is something I can understand but making it a ritual and saying its been done from that time is something I don’t seem to agree with..  I don’t know if anyone will understand my point or not.
 
this is something I was reading about Shivji consuming weed and came across this.
https://www.quora.com/Was-Lord-Shiva-using-marijuana-Bhang-or-other-drugs-If-he-is-a-god-would-he-need-drugs

Hanji we meet again 🙏🏻🙂
i would like to tell u this now as u wrote this. Before my transformation and before like who I’m now and what kind of person I was before.. so I use to consume weed before and use to love it a lot so I know it’s effects.. and I can do it now as well but I just can’t do it anymore because there’s a voice that’s not letting me do it and we all know THAT VOICE can never be wrong.. now even I have  valid reasons for doing it.. I can also take in a right quantity and do my simran..  right, but I just can’t do it anymore.. well that’s what I think and there are so many people who misuse it.. like people in India they even try to get high on cough syrups.. and yes there are other people who do it in a right way but those people are very rare.. and I really think those on spiritual path they actually really don’t need to do it..