GurjantGnostic

ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ ॥ prabhaatee || Prabhaatee: ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ ਕਹਹੁ ਮਤ ਝੂਠੇ ਝੂਠਾ ਜੋ ਨ ਬਿਚਾਰੈ ॥ bedh kateb kahahu mat jhootte jhoottaa jo na bichaarai || Do not say that the Vedas, the Bible are false. Those who do not contemplate them are false. ਜਉ ਸਭ ਮਹਿ ਏਕੁ ਖੁਦਾਇ ਕਹਤ ਹਉ ਤਉ ਕਿਉ ਮੁਰਗੀ ਮਾਰੈ ॥੧॥ jau sabh meh ek khudhai kahat hau tau kiau muragee maarai ||1|| You say that the One Lord is in all, so why do you kill chickens? ||1|| ਮੁਲਾਂ ਕਹਹੁ ਨਿਆਉ ਖੁਦਾਈ ॥ mulaa(n) kahahu niaau khudhaiee || O Mullah, tell me: is this God's Justice? ਤੇਰੇ ਮਨ ਕਾ ਭਰਮੁ ਨ ਜਾਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ tere man kaa bharam na jaiee ||1|| rahaau || The doubts of your mind have not been dispelled. ||1||Pause|| ਪਕਰਿ ਜੀਉ ਆਨਿਆ ਦੇਹ ਬਿਨਾਸੀ ਮਾਟੀ ਕਉ ਬਿਸਮਿਲਿ ਕੀਆ ॥ pakar jeeau aaniaa dheh binaasee maaTee kau bisamil keeaa || You seize a living creature, and then bring it home and kill its body; you have killed only the clay. ਜੋਤਿ ਸਰੂਪ ਅਨਾਹਤ ਲਾਗੀ ਕਹੁ ਹਲਾਲੁ ਕਿਆ ਕੀਆ ॥੨॥ jot saroop anaahat laagee kahu halaal kiaa keeaa ||2|| The light of the soul passes into another form. So tell me, what have you killed? ||2|| ਕਿਆ ਉਜੂ ਪਾਕੁ ਕੀਆ ਮੁਹੁ ਧੋਇਆ ਕਿਆ ਮਸੀਤਿ ਸਿਰੁ ਲਾਇਆ ॥ kiaa aujoo paak keeaa muh dhoiaa kiaa maseet sir laiaa || And what good are your purifications? Why do you bother to wash your face? And why do you bother to bow your head in the mosque? ਜਉ ਦਿਲ ਮਹਿ ਕਪਟੁ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਹੁ ਕਿਆ ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਇਆ ॥੩॥ jau dhil meh kapaT nivaaj gujaarahu kiaa haj kaabai jaiaa ||3|| Your heart is full of hypocrisy; what good are your prayers or your pilgrimage to Mecca? ||3|| ਤੂੰ ਨਾਪਾਕੁ ਪਾਕੁ ਨਹੀ ਸੂਝਿਆ ਤਿਸ ਕਾ ਮਰਮੁ ਨ ਜਾਨਿਆ ॥ too(n) naapaak paak nahee soojhiaa tis kaa maram na jaaniaa || You are impure; you do not understand the Pure Lord. You do not know His Mystery. ਕਹਿ ਕਬੀਰ ਭਿਸਤਿ ਤੇ ਚੂਕਾ ਦੋਜਕ ਸਿਉ ਮਨੁ ਮਾਨਿਆ ॥੪॥੪॥ keh kabeer bhisat te chookaa dhojak siau man maaniaa ||4||4|| Says Kabeer, you have missed out on paradise; your mind is set on hell. ||4||4|| Bhagat Kabeer Ji in Raag Prabhaatee - 1350 Text confirmed, followers corrected. ਮਃ ੧ ॥ mahalaa pehilaa || First Mehla: ਮਾਸੁ ਮਾਸੁ ਕਰਿ ਮੂਰਖੁ ਝਗੜੇ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਨਹੀ ਜਾਣੈ ॥ maas maas kar moorakh jhagaRe giaan dhiaan nahee jaanai || The fools argue about flesh and meat, but they know nothing about meditation and spiritual wisdom. ਕਉਣੁ ਮਾਸੁ ਕਉਣੁ ਸਾਗੁ ਕਹਾਵੈ ਕਿਸੁ ਮਹਿ ਪਾਪ ਸਮਾਣੇ ॥ kaun maas kaun saag kahaavai kis meh paap samaane || What is called meat, and what is called green vegetables? What leads to sin? ਗੈਂਡਾ ਮਾਰਿ ਹੋਮ ਜਗ ਕੀਏ ਦੇਵਤਿਆ ਕੀ ਬਾਣੇ ॥ gai(n)ddaa maar hom jag ke'ee dhevatiaa kee baane || It was the habit of the gods to kill the rhinoceros, and make a feast of the burnt offering. ਮਾਸੁ ਛੋਡਿ ਬੈਸਿ ਨਕੁ ਪਕੜਹਿ ਰਾਤੀ ਮਾਣਸ ਖਾਣੇ ॥ maas chhodd bais nak pakaReh raatee maanas khaane || Those who renounce meat, and hold their noses when sitting near it, devour men at night. ਫੜੁ ਕਰਿ ਲੋਕਾਂ ਨੋ ਦਿਖਲਾਵਹਿ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਨਹੀ ਸੂਝੈ ॥ faR kar lokaa(n) no dhikhalaaveh giaan dhiaan nahee soojhai || They practice hypocrisy, and make a show before other people, but they do not understand anything about meditation or spiritual wisdom. ਨਾਨਕ ਅੰਧੇ ਸਿਉ ਕਿਆ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਹੈ ਨ ਕਹਿਆ ਬੂਝੈ ॥ naanak a(n)dhe siau kiaa kaheeaai kahai na kahiaa boojhai || O Nanak, what can be said to the blind people? They cannot answer, or even understand what is said. ਅੰਧਾ ਸੋਇ ਜਿ ਅੰਧੁ ਕਮਾਵੈ ਤਿਸੁ ਰਿਦੈ ਸਿ ਲੋਚਨ ਨਾਹੀ ॥ a(n)dhaa soi j a(n)dh kamaavai tis ridhai s lochan naahee || They alone are blind, who act blindly. They have no eyes in their hearts. ਮਾਤ ਪਿਤਾ ਕੀ ਰਕਤੁ ਨਿਪੰਨੇ ਮਛੀ ਮਾਸੁ ਨ ਖਾਂਹੀ ॥ maat pitaa kee rakat nipa(n)ne machhee maas na khaa(n)hee || They are produced from the blood of their mothers and fathers, but they do not eat fish or meat. ਇਸਤ੍ਰੀ ਪੁਰਖੈ ਜਾਂ ਨਿਸਿ ਮੇਲਾ ਓਥੈ ਮੰਧੁ ਕਮਾਹੀ ॥ eisatree purakhai jaa(n) nis melaa othai ma(n)dh kamaahee || But when men and women meet in the night, they come together in the flesh. ਮਾਸਹੁ ਨਿੰਮੇ ਮਾਸਹੁ ਜੰਮੇ ਹਮ ਮਾਸੈ ਕੇ ਭਾਂਡੇ ॥ maasahu ni(n)me maasahu ja(n)me ham maasai ke bhaa(n)dde || In the flesh we are conceived, and in the flesh we are born; we are vessels of flesh. ਗਿਆਨੁ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਕਛੁ ਸੂਝੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਚਤੁਰੁ ਕਹਾਵੈ ਪਾਂਡੇ ॥ giaan dhiaan kachh soojhai naahee chatur kahaavai paa(n)dde || You know nothing of spiritual wisdom and meditation, even though you call yourself clever, O religious scholar. ਬਾਹਰ ਕਾ ਮਾਸੁ ਮੰਦਾ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਘਰ ਕਾ ਮਾਸੁ ਚੰਗੇਰਾ ॥ baahar kaa maas ma(n)dhaa suaamee ghar kaa maas cha(n)geraa || O master, you believe that flesh on the outside is bad, but the flesh of those in your own home is good. ਜੀਅ ਜੰਤ ਸਭਿ ਮਾਸਹੁ ਹੋਏ ਜੀਇ ਲਇਆ ਵਾਸੇਰਾ ॥ jeea ja(n)t sabh maasahu hoe jeei liaa vaaseraa || All beings and creatures are flesh; the soul has taken up its home in the flesh. ਅਭਖੁ ਭਖਹਿ ਭਖੁ ਤਜਿ ਛੋਡਹਿ ਅੰਧੁ ਗੁਰੂ ਜਿਨ ਕੇਰਾ ॥ abhakh bhakheh bhakh taj chhoddeh a(n)dh guroo jin keraa || They eat the uneatable; they reject and abandon what they could eat. They have a teacher who is blind. ਮਾਸਹੁ ਨਿੰਮੇ ਮਾਸਹੁ ਜੰਮੇ ਹਮ ਮਾਸੈ ਕੇ ਭਾਂਡੇ ॥ maasahu ni(n)me maasahu ja(n)me ham maasai ke bhaa(n)dde || In the flesh we are conceived, and in the flesh we are born; we are vessels of flesh. ਗਿਆਨੁ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਕਛੁ ਸੂਝੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਚਤੁਰੁ ਕਹਾਵੈ ਪਾਂਡੇ ॥ giaan dhiaan kachh soojhai naahee chatur kahaavai paa(n)dde || You know nothing of spiritual wisdom and meditation, even though you call yourself clever, O religious scholar. ਮਾਸੁ ਪੁਰਾਣੀ ਮਾਸੁ ਕਤੇਬਂੀ ਚਹੁ ਜੁਗਿ ਮਾਸੁ ਕਮਾਣਾ ॥ maas puraanee maas katebee(n) chahu jug maas kamaanaa || Meat is allowed in the Puraanas, meat is allowed in the Bible. Throughout the four ages, meat has been used. ਜਜਿ ਕਾਜਿ ਵੀਆਹਿ ਸੁਹਾਵੈ ਓਥੈ ਮਾਸੁ ਸਮਾਣਾ ॥ jaj kaaj veeaaeh suhaavai othai maas samaanaa || It is featured in sacred feasts and marriage festivities; meat is used in them. ਇਸਤ੍ਰੀ ਪੁਰਖ ਨਿਪਜਹਿ ਮਾਸਹੁ ਪਾਤਿਸਾਹ ਸੁਲਤਾਨਾਂ ॥ eisatree purakh nipajeh maasahu paatisaeh sulataanaa(n) || Women, men, kings and emperors originate from meat. ਜੇ ਓਇ ਦਿਸਹਿ ਨਰਕਿ ਜਾਂਦੇ ਤਾਂ ਉਨ੍ਹ ਕਾ ਦਾਨੁ ਨ ਲੈਣਾ ॥ je oi dhiseh narak jaa(n)dhe taa(n) aun(h) kaa dhaan na lainaa || If you see them going to hell, then do not accept charitable gifts from them. ਦੇਂਦਾ ਨਰਕਿ ਸੁਰਗਿ ਲੈਦੇ ਦੇਖਹੁ ਏਹੁ ਧਿਙਾਣਾ ॥ dhe(n)dhaa narak surag laidhe dhekhahu eh dhin(g)aanaa || The giver goes to hell, while the receiver goes to heaven - look at this injustice. ਆਪਿ ਨ ਬੂਝੈ ਲੋਕ ਬੁਝਾਏ ਪਾਂਡੇ ਖਰਾ ਸਿਆਣਾ ॥ aap na boojhai lok bujhaae paa(n)dde kharaa siaanaa || You do not understand your own self, but you preach to other people. O Pandit, you are very wise indeed. ਪਾਂਡੇ ਤੂ ਜਾਣੈ ਹੀ ਨਾਹੀ ਕਿਥਹੁ ਮਾਸੁ ਉਪੰਨਾ ॥ paa(n)dde too jaanai hee naahee kithahu maas aupa(n)naa || O Pandit, you do not know where meat originated. ਤੋਇਅਹੁ ਅੰਨੁ ਕਮਾਦੁ ਕਪਾਹਾਂ ਤੋਇਅਹੁ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣੁ ਗੰਨਾ ॥ toiahu a(n)n kamaadh kapaahaa(n) toiahu tirabhavan ga(n)naa || Corn, sugar cane and cotton are produced from water. The three worlds came from water. ਤੋਆ ਆਖੈ ਹਉ ਬਹੁ ਬਿਧਿ ਹਛਾ ਤੋਐ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਿਕਾਰਾ ॥ toaa aakhai hau bahu bidh hachhaa toaai bahut bikaaraa || Water says, ""I am good in many ways."" But water takes many forms. ਏਤੇ ਰਸ ਛੋਡਿ ਹੋਵੈ ਸੰਨਿਆਸੀ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਕਹੈ ਵਿਚਾਰਾ ॥੨॥ ete ras chhodd hovai sa(n)niaasee naanak kahai vichaaraa ||2|| Forsaking these delicacies, one becomes a true Sannyaasee, a detached hermit. Nanak reflects and speaks. ||2|| Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Raag Malaar - 1290 Here Guru Nanak Dev Ji references Vedic and Biblical sources to affirm we can also eat meat. The theme of affirming truths in the texts to their three degrees, continues, while also condemning the understanding and practices of their supposed devotees. ਕਹਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਭਲੇ ਅਸਵਾਰਾ ॥ ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ ਤੇ ਰਹਹਿ ਨਿਰਾਰਾ ॥੩॥੩੧॥ kahat kabeer bhale asavaaraa || bedh kateb te raheh niraaraa ||3||31|| Says Kabeer, those who remain detached from the Vedas and the Bible are the best riders. ||3||31|| Bhagat Kabeer Ji in Raag Gauree - 329 ਤੁਧੁ ਧਿਆਇਨਿ੍ਹ ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬਾ ਸਣੁ ਖੜੇ ॥ tudh dhiaaini(h) bedh katebaa san khaRe || The followers of the Vedas, the Bible, standing at Your Door, meditate on You. Guru Arjan Dev Ji in Raag Gujri - 518

Running? Already? We've just begun Padawan.

Some additional points you made to set the ground. Hp1. You said the Hindu Devte are the avtar of Akal and perfect manifestations. Mp1. You said the Gurbani confirms Muhammad as the last true of the abrahamic prophets. Tp1. You claim therefore the Quran is true and that the Bible is false. And that Bible is not Keetab in Gurbani. Cp1. You claim that Bhai Naand Laal Ji is approved Vaaran and in line with the rest of Gurbani. Bp1. You claim that Guru Nanak Dev Ji was not Waheguru when he, as you out it, was shitting his nappies. Bp2. You call the Guru Sabhain God directly, not just mnaifestations of his Sanjog. For which Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj condemns you Dukh.

Let the Hi1ghlander games begin. I return in a bit.

Excellent. Finally. How many days that take?

One day I'll wrek people more gently.

Stay Vigilant and in Gurbani

Going to make this less personal. Dude might just have a sub 80 iq and never read Gurbani.

All the rediculous aspects of this...too many... let's ignore how beyond this is and focus on this... doesn't he know Sith are adharmi?

Oof the depths of christian cultism is becoming increasingly clear. It's like all lf em almost. Goat heretics high on claiming a gang set.

Also relates to Biblical age, which is a Kalyug era Keetab containing snippets from previous Yughs. The age of Adam puts him only in the last Yugh. Looks like people got recreated at the end of the last age after the family wars, if we take his age literally.

Could be a bit longer. Thats about when we seem to recover a bit but be under influence.

My opinion is we're occupied by aliens for the last 6k years. They're programming us and quickly advancing us to fight our liberators during the next big event here shortly ish. So some UFOs are the imperials and others the liberators. How I get this tinfoil to stay formed into a dastar? In an event that fuses Sikh, Hopi, and Biblical prophecy, that reveals many more tribal people were Gurmukh than others gave them credit, about as many Sikhs as we thought, not hoped, and far less Christians than they ever imagined.

Nope. At least one of you still toxic and you're both still drunks.

Well I believe in the topic...but...you ever try and get footage of anything you've done? Almost impossible...when this thing you've don involves the military, a plane, a ufo etc...nobody givin you a video of ish.

Yuhs

Agree pushups bad. Agree crunches bad. I train with acrobats. I would only do half their stuff.

Looking like rss it turns out.

Welcome Veer Ji. Sorry I was gruff. Let's talk here.

Welcome friend. Thank you for sharing. Make a profile and invite all your people. The social media trend is not good informationally for the Paanth. Come participate in this enduring resource.

Nice broooo. Great distillation.

Insert my usual spiel about restructuring life and Paanth entirely and training in martial art continually. Insert usual offer to found a curriculum that will be ignored. Takes one mildly successful philanthropist to train the whole Paanth. The alternative is deadly.

Meth...not even once.

They do that less if while grabbing the dastar you...uh ...knock them out

Excellent. Was just listening to Ardas.