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I found this on JattWorld.com. This is a different version of a saakhi which has been told about a donkey putting on a lions skin. I thought i'd share it with you guys. "Also there is a story mentioned in Sikh chronicles that once Sikhs asked Guru Gobind Singh if it is really true that on taking Amrit and putting on the 5 K's do we really become Lions? Guru ji replied them that they would get their answer later. After a few days Guru ji asked Sikhs to bring a donkey and a Lion's skin and asked Sikhs to cover the donkey body all over with the lion's skin. The Sikhs did this and Guru ji asked them to drive the donkey into the woods on the hillside and keep an eye on it where it went. The donkey in Lion's clothing enjoyed the new attire because no wild animals such as wolves or hyneas bothered him. One day a potter with his pack of donkeys passed nearby when one of his own donkeys started braying. The donkey in Lion's skin heard the sound and as a reflex action began himself braying. The potter became curious to find where is the other donkey. The potter immediately recognised the donkey and roped it to add it to his own pack. The Sikhs finding the donkey taken away by the potter came to Guruji and reported that a potter took away the donkey. The Sikhs had forgotten about the question they had asked from Guru ji and asked what are they to do now that the donkey is gone. Guru ji reminded them that just by putting on the 5 K's and taking Amrit does not make you Singhs or lions. If you are a donkey you would remain a donkey, Amrit or no Amrit. The real Rehat is to be able to control your instints that like the donkey can lead you to be led away to the door of the Dharmraj like the potter did to the donkey." http://www.jattworld.com/portal/modules/ne...=0&start=20

After readind the artical, it just makes things more confusing. Well this is what I believe. I believe that before Guru Nanak Dev Ji came to this world, people started calling the stone Omkar. And that Guru Nanak Dev Ji came this world to say that Omkar is Akaal himself and not a stone. If you read Bichitra Naatak in Sri Dasam Granth Ji, Guru Ji says that there was a confusion to who God was in the old days. I believe when Guru Ji came, he came to resort out belifes to their original form? But I might be wrong. In Bhai Gurdas Jis Vaara he says that Guru Ji came to redeem Kuljug and that Dharma has been put back on its four legs. Bhai Gurdas Ji's Vaara 01 sunee pukaar dhaathaar prabh gur naanak jag maahi(n) pat(h)aayaa|| The benefactor Lord listened to the cries (of humanity) and sent Guru Nanak to this world. charan dhhoe rehiraas kar charanaamrith skhiaa(n) peelaayaa|| He washed His feet, eulogised God and got his Disciples drink the ambrosia of his feet. paarabreham pooran breham kalijug a(n)dhar eik dhikhaayaa|| He preached in this darkage (kaliyug) that, saragun (Brahm) and nirgun (Parbrahm) are the same and identical. chaarai pair dhhara(n)m dhae chaar varan eik varan karaayaa|| Dharma was now established on its four feet and all the four castes (through fraternal feeling) were converted into one caste (of humanity). raanaa ra(n)k baraabaree pairee(n) pavanaa jag varathaayaa|| Equating the poor with the prince, he spread the etiquette of humbly touching the feet. oulattaa khael pira(n)m dhaa pairaa(n) oupar sees nivaayaa|| Inverse is the game of the beloved; he got the egotist high heads bowed to feet. kalijug baabae thaariaa saathanaam parrh ma(n)thr sunaayaa|| Baba Nanak rescued this dark age (kaliyug) and recited ‘satinam’ mantr for one and all. kal thaaran gur naanak aayaa ||aa|| Guru Nanak came to redeem the kaliyug.

I found something. http://www.iuscanada.com/journal/articles/omkar.pdf

Ive always loved that film, "Nanak Naam Jahaz Hai". Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Happy Gurparab.

Feels like Real Sikhi is starting to come out.

This is what I also felt. But great reply! Really cleared things up for me.

Cheers its works noww

lol im no scholar, wish I had the chance though. I believe the word Guru means God himself, with his grace we understand and learn. And yeah I do believe that without Guru there is no understanding of his Hukam, theres no relationship with God without Guru. God and Guru are one and the same. But I question things, not because I want to mock Guru Ji, I wouldnt even dream of it! But I question because I want a better understanding. Your always going to have people questioning, this is human nature. But you get some people who question for the sake of trying to make it something that you believe in false and to get you to follow their way. I question because I want a better understanding. Even in Guru Ji's time people used to question him about his belief's but the people that did, understod. I believe the people that dont allow questioning, they dont know for themselves in the first place. People theses days seem to believe that questioning is wrong and the person questioning are instanly put into the bad books. Thanks for helping me out.

But Guru Granth Sahib is universal, isnt it? All the bhagats that are in Guru Granth Sahib have got mukti, who was their Guru? Im sorry if im asking too much questions, I think sikhi is much deeper than Sikhs theses days manage to think of it as. If anything im still a fool. What I meant by the question was, is Naam given to us since our human birth so that we're able to Naam Jaap?

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Some people say that you can get Naam from the 5 Beloved. But when we were in our mothers wombs we were doing Naam Jaap. Guru Ji says that this is why we're born to worship him through Naam and that being in this human form, we should'nt miss out in this opportunity. Guru Nanak Dev Ji preached to the world to not to forget the Creator. Is Naam really given to us by the 5 Beloved ones or is it our birth right?

Its also so easy to fall victim to this kind of propaganda.

Its funny how most of us Sikhs today think that the Nirmala order came from Guru Nanak Dev Ji's time, but it was started in the time of Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Their origins lie with the five Sikhs, Ganda Singh, Karm Singh, Sena Singh, Vir Singh and Ram Singh whom Akali Nihang Guru Gobind Singh sent from Paunta Sahib to Benares to learn Sanskrit in 1688. It is said that once Akali Nihang Guru Gobind Singh Ji asked his court Pundit Ragunath to teach his Sikhs Sanskrit, but, the Brahmin refused saying he could not teach the Sikhs Sanskrit. His reason was that Sanskrit was the sacred Sanatan Hindu language of the Hindu demigods, and because there were amongst the Sikhs individuals belonging to low castes, he could not teach them. This reaction prompted the Guru to send the above-mentioned Sikhs in guise of Sadhus to Banares. There, they learned all manner of ancient Indian Sanskrit knowledge. When they came back they founded the Nirmala order of Sikhs with the blessings of the Guru. Nirmalas were the masters of Sanskrit and were the intellectuals and scholars of Sikhism. Akali Nihang Guru Gobind Singh gave them a duty to educate the illiterate Indian populace and promote the philosophy of oneness of Nirankar God and all mankind amongst the Hindu scholars (regardless of caste or creed). http://www.sarbloh.info/htmls/sikh_nirmala.html

lol, the look of the girl in the gold pug. Sorry.

I was surfing on Sikh Sangat and found this, thought i'd share it with you guys. I respect what this guy is doing. Hes a Legend. 8)

If im not wrong, Ram was Kabeer Ji's Manter. And I think Guru Ji said that Kabeer Ji crossed the wave currents of life.

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If you cant see God in all, how can you see God at all? Ram, Allah, Vaheguru are one and the same. Bhai Gurdaas Vaar 01 sathijug sathigur vaasadhaev vaavaa vishanaa naam japaavai|| In Satyug, Visnu in the form of Vasudev is said to have incarnated and ‘V’ Of Vahiguru reminds of Visnu. dhuaapar sathigur hareekrishan haahaa har har naam dhhiaavai|| The true Guru of dvapar is said to be Harikrsna and ‘H’ of Vahiguru reminds of Hari. thraethae sathigur raam jee raaraa raam japae sukh paavai|| In the the treta was Ram and ‘R’ of Vahiguru tells that rembering Ram will produce joy and happiness. kalijug naanak gur gobi(n)dh gagaa govi(n)dh naam japaavai|| In kalijug, Gobind is in the form of Nanak and ‘G’ of Vahiguru gets Govind recited. chaarae jaagae chahu jugee pa(n)chaaein vich jaae samaavai|| The recitations o f all the four ages subsume in Panchayan i.e. in the soul of the common man. chaaro(n) ashhar eik kar vaahiguroo jap ma(n)thr japaavai|| When joining four letters Vahiguru is remembered, jehaa(n) thae oupajiaa fir thehaa(n) samaavai ||aa||a|| The jiv merges again in its origin.

LOL Akali Baba Sukha Singh is a lovely guy. Met him once.

For knives and forks Sakeee!! lol

OMG!! This site is still underconstruction!!

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I respect you, you have put forward a good argument. I believe ignorance of other peoples religions happends when people choose not to understand it in the first place. And rather have a black and white view. But I believe that understanding other peoples religions also makes you understand your own religion better.

I found this video on Google, thought it was nice and then thought of sharing it with you lot. Have a watch its a short animated film 14 mintues long. http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...6&q=Sikhism