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about the Kabalah branch of jewism, which they say goes al the way back to Prophet Adam as a hidden message given to initiates only.. here is short on them: Kabbalah (Hebrew: קַבָּלָה‎, Tiberian: qabːɔˈlɔh, Qabbālāh, Israeli: Kabala) literally means "receiving", in the sense of a "received tradition", and is sometimes transliterated as Cabala, Kabbala, Qabalah, or other permutations. Kabbalah esoterically interprets the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) and classical Jewish texts (halakha and aggadah) and practices (mitzvot), as expressing a mystical doctrine concerning God's simultaneous immanence and transcendence, an attempted resolution to the ancient paradox of how the ultimate Being—"that which is not conceivable by thinking" (Isaac the Blind)—nevertheless comes to be known and experienced by the created world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabalah

that sounds interesting... i found that gnostics of christianity, kabalah of jewism, and mystical branches of Islam all regocnise reinkarnation. it means that all mystical groups of the three law-giving religions of middle east recognice reinkarnation. it gives me the impression that the Gurus brought the hidden deeper meaning of all religion and thats also why i think Gurbani tells hindues etc how to become better hindues.

just a personal question: do you regocnise (imam) Agha Khan as being a succesor of the 12 infalible Imams? if so, does it not mean that the the last 2-3 imams are rejected as being Imams, as the the first Ismali Imam considers himself to be the succesor after Imam Musa

so is there more than 12 infalible Imams in Islam? yes i will try to get a copy of the ginans. thank you very much

is it possible to play in raag with a harmonium? i heard it is not possible

i find it quite offencive...

how would a new comitee be found in a Gurdwara, if it has been using elections for the past 25 years? i was wondering about this, as we recently had to change the comitee...

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki fateh. and welcome back JavanMard. i've missed you and your knowledge the reason im asking these question, is that a had a debate with a few muslims friends, and i explained to them, that there is no contradiction between Islam and Sikhism, and that they have their law, and we have ours... both religions are true and sent by God....they then said that we have different rules... i gave them the example of: if i give permission for my first son to go outside at night, and i refuse the second son to do so, i have not contradicted myself, but rather given two different laws to two different sons. they agreed on this.. the only issue that religions can not contradict each other on fundemental issues such as the Tawhid of God, the fact that there is a life after death etc. etc. i have always thought that the issue of the grave was a metaphor in the Quran, and that it could also talk about reincarnation, but then he showed me that Islam rejects reincarnation, and says that if two religions contradict each other on fundemental issues, only one of them can be right. thats why i started this topic..

Welcome back bro:).... i've missed you, and you know that

there are tens of verses contradicting reincarnation and those verses from the posted article in the Quran

does Gurbani anywhere talk about what will happen to those who belive in punishment of the grave?

that is true indeed, but the religous books have still told us about the afterlife, and one of them rejects the other, it must mean that only one of these books can be true..

so the question is : is God liying to the muslims when he talks about "punishment of the grave" ?

yes all sufis i have spoken to, and also on sufi forums, all deny reincarnation, and says that whoever belives in this, is out of the fold of Islam... i was wondering. how can one say that the Quran is a book from God, when it contradicts sikhi on such a fundemental issue? what will happen after death? only one thing can be true... earlier i thought the "grave" in islam was a metafor for a body, and when muslims say "the soul will suffer for its deeds in the grave" it means that it would suffer in a new body.. but now i wonder i hope someone can answar this

Does the following verse of the Quran not say that reincarnation does not exist? When death comes to one of them, he says, "My Lord, send me back again. so that perhaps I may act rightly regarding the things I failed to do!" No indeed! It is just words he utters. Before them there is an interspace until the Day they are raised up. (Surat al-Muminun: 99-100) this verse says people only have one chance, and there is no new chance after this life. when sufi's belive in reincarnation, what sources do they use to back it up? They will not taste any death there-except for the first one. He will safeguard them from the punishment of the Blazing Fire. A favour from your Lord. That is the Great Victory. (Surat ad-Dukhan: 56-57)

does the Rehat Maryada not forbid marrying out of religion?

3wow that is just amazing. why does the third picture have drawings of the sun in it? i heard that in the old times, people used to refer to Guru Granth Sahib as the Sun energy, and the Dasam Granth as the Moon energy... have any one heard of this?

please share them here on the forum so others can do the same at their local Gurdwara

Quran says there are thousands of worlds.......it is confirmed in japji sahib when it says Sahas atharan kahan Kateba

it says in gurbani that God created the three worlds in the beginning of creation..how does this in with science that says that the this earth was created billion of years after the creation of the universe..

why do youy call it naamdhari Kirtan? it is kirtan the way it should be done, so please refer to it as kirtan only:)

i agree with amrik singh..no quotes is needed here, when it has to do with ass whooping lol

what is the conclusion? why does Gurbani say that they did not know Gods limits, and they had ego etc etc? how is it to be understood

anyone?

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh. what is Gurmat's view on a future resorection of all souls, followed by a judgement day, as heard of in Islam, Christianity and judaism. whereas the earth will be destroyed, and paradise will be created for the winners, and hell for the loosers.. will this happen or not?