chatanga1

the article does not include the fact that some of the terrorists were govt agents under kp gill control.

we also need acknowledgement as equals within the indian regime. are we gonnna get that? we havent for the last 60 years.

spiderman, can the Sikhs express thier views in india? without getting arretsed or harrassed by police? without sufferiing harm to thier lives , property? cos Sikhs are living the the type of raj you seem to despise. a raaj where we have no appeal, vakeel or daleel. dont be a hypocrit.

actually i was talking about the line before that. what if the 5 pyare announced a death sentence on gill? Dasam Guru gave cheto and other people death sentences, so could this be caried out?

one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter. anyway this is to commemorate the departed souls who died in Darbar Sahib at the hands of the india ravan sena. All the men terrorists, women terrorists, and children terrorists who died of thirst, bullets and bombs. not the why's and wherefore's. That is still to come.

this topic is being discussed on sikhsangat. http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showto...60&start=60 also im copying a post and i would like your opinion on the line that is qutoed. So some Nihangs took part in the movement, does that mean that their actions were in line with Budha Dal policy of Santa Singh or against it. Considering all the bukwas that Santa Singh mouthed about Sant Bhindranwale as well as the SGPC there's no doubt that any Nihang taking part in the movement was going against Santa Singh's orders. Santa Singh for years had security provided by the CRPF. So much for the so-called Panth Patishah!! There were three Mukh Gadars in 1984, Santa Singh, Zail Singh and Buta Singh. All were given tankah. Does that mean that we should forgive their actions? Zail Singh signed the order that authorised the army to kill thousands on Sikhs during operation Bluestar. Buta Singh was the jholichuk of Gandhi who went around looking for any Sikh leader to support the government action and undertake the Sarkar Sewa. Santa Singh stabbed the Panth in the back by his actions. Before Santa Singh sold his soul to Indira Gandhi and brought his Nihangs into the mix, there were only a few congressi Sikhs on the government side. The rest of the Panth was united. After Santa Singh's gadari, other gadars came forward such as Longowal, the Badal, KPS Gill etc. As for the Tankah, if KPS Gill stage manages a pesh through Badal and is forgiven for his actions by just doing a few Japji Sahib paths, does this mean that it will be ok for Sikhs then to leave him alone and treat him again as just another ordinary Sikh?

shaheedon ki chitaou par lagenge har bars mele. anyone know the next line to this?

again a reminder to evry1 to keep the 8th june free and attend rally at hyde park in london.

if he duznt reply it cos he's prob still reading it.

fateh to evry1. please attend the Hyde park rally for remembrance of ALL the people who died in Operation Bluestar in June 1984. It is on June 8th. PLease give one day this year to the memory of those who gave their lives for our glorious nation. Please bring as many friends and family as possible as you can. Thanks in advance.

woudnt class DS as part of the media, they are mainly known for topless girls and rubbish jokes.

anything to tell us neo bhaji?

Bhai Mani Singh was given var by Dasam Guru that even tho his body may be cut to peices he would stay firm to his path. Sant Gurbachan Singh and others have stated this in katha of taksal.

is warriors link to sukhmani sahib or sukhmana sahib?

Neo bhaji , almost 3 months ago i asked you to provide any stats for the statenebt you made in this topic. do you have any stats from your source ? thanks in advance. chatanga

well done vedanti!!

i emailed Teja Singh twice about 2years ago. had no reply at all.

pray truth for all and Sat Sri Akal. in the 15 vol katha of Aad Guru Granth Sahib Sant Gurbachan Singh ji that has come into my posssession, i have listened to the pangati that i started this topic about way back in 2007. Sant Ji gives exactly the same meaning as i read in a steek. However in the recording he goes further on to say that the man who drinks alcohol is a "kanjar".

mom is hindu dad id sikh, so duznt that make you a hindu/sikh or a sikh/hindu? where duz the panjabi come into it? your mother tongue ? in that case you should call yourself a hindu/sikh/panjabi OR sikh/hindu/panjabi . unless you belong to the Bhagat Ravidas Ji community , who call misleadingly themselves hindu panjabis...

inmy lifetime i have heard from 2 people why they became Sikhs. their path to sikhi is amazing as you will all agree! Sikh 1 : i used to be a radhaswami, but i wanted to drink(alcohol) so i gave it up and became a Sikh. Sikh 2 : i used to be a namdhari, but wanted to trim my beard so i became a Sikh. True testimony from the believers!!.

the only way we coud know his spiritual status is by being with him. then we would get an idea but an idea only. i think the appeal with him is his young aage, but for his detractors its a weapon to use against him. anyway he has brought more people to sikhi than i could in many lifetimes so i appluad him. Im sure that Guru Gobind Singh would prob feel the same.

fateh singh, if u get anything pm them to me.

should be able to. although if you cant then go to www.gurmatveechar.com and find it there. also for a more clearer recording of this subject listen to Giani Thakur SInghs katha of Japji Sahib where he elaborates on " OM " to " ONkar" and it will be made very clear.

prehlaad was saved by harnaskh?

mit may i suggest something? plz hold you physical rehat(bana) in equilibrium with your spritiualk rehat(bani). Bana and Bani go together and in Suraj Parkash it is written thatthey are the 2 wings that make a sikh ascend to sachkhand. my only advice is that as you are "pakka" in your bani recitation, plz be just as "pakka" when it comes to keeping your kes and darra intact.