GuptSingh1699

Why not read Guru Granth Sahib bani's instead? Why read myths and poems if you got valuable Dhur Ki Bani of SGGS? Chandi Di Vaar is not its real name, real name is VAAR DURGA KI. It is a Durga Paath. Upto you to decide wheter to worship Ik Oankaar or Poet Shyam's Durga Mother.

You don't have logic. If anti DG people are fools why don't they become wise by reading CP and understand it? The truth is that Pro Dasam Granth people have read CP over and over and are still dumb enough to believe that it is written by Guru Gobind Singh... So not any smarter. Inder, do you know what kirat kmaee is? How do you earn money? All I know you do is sitting on net 24/7 and posting messages on sites promoting Bachitar Natak Granth (Granth not belonging to Sikh or Khalsa Panth). Are you paid per post or is it some other system I am not aware off?

SanjhK brother, these are our modern day Sikhs. On one side we have these few dozen things said/written by Guru Ji on other side we get Santa Claus gifting many Granths to Nihang Chaunis from sky... Amazing... What a big joke. Bani is not a mantra or whatever to gain boons or whatever you want.

I'm answering from memory, so I may be wrong. 1: kede gurusikh ne 6 gurua nu tilak laga ke guru gaddi te viraajman kitta. Baba Buddha Ji. 4: shri gurunanak dev ji dwara rachit kitne shabd, shri granth sahib vich kitne raaga vich darj ne?? 19 raags. 5: shri gurugovind singh ji de jyoti jyot samaan de samaya khalse de guru hone da samman kis nu bakshya. Aad Granth Sahib nu. 6: shri guru granth sahib vich kitne baani-kaara diya baani darj hai? 36.

If that is so, then accept live debate offer? What is wrong with truck driver, atleast they do Kirat, unlike 3rd primary fail Baba's who loot Sangat with fairy tales in form of Katha. Years of study of limited number of books yeah. Suraj Prakash and few others, and many other anti Gurmat stuff such as Dasam Granth and Sarbloh Granth. That guy of Neo-Sikhism is Kamalroop Singh Nihang, right? He couldn't answer some of my basic questions on DG by mail, what right does he have to speak then? Chaj te bole bole, channi kyun bole? Oh vi 3600 chekk wali !

TheKhalsaFauj makes complete sense. He wants to free Sikhs from clutches of Brahminvaad and Karam Kaands. There are enough Sikhs in Canada to begin with, after we will shift to India too, don't worry. But Khalistan won't be achieved by attacking Gurughars like Taksalis etc did in 2006, nor by shouting a few slogans once a year. Go there.

You guys couldn't even answer my questions. If you guys are so knowledgeable, why do u have to run to mods for moderation and post deletion? Sikh sangat won't even allow someone to post quotes from Dasam Granth. What kind of pro DG site is that? Sikhsangat bans a person for even asking for arths of a quote of DG... They are thugs ਕੈ ਜੜ ਪ੍ਰਾਨਨ ਕੀ ਆਸਾ ਤਜੁ। ਕੈ ਰੁਚਿ ਮਾਨਿ ਆਉ ਮੁਹਿ ਕੌ ਭਜੁ। ਕੈ ਤੁਹਿ ਕਾਟਿ ਕਰੈ ਸਤ ਖੰਡਾ। ਕੈ ਦੈ ਮੋਰਿ ਭਗ ਬਿਖੈ ਲੰਡਾ। ੧੧। ਰਾਜ ਕੁਅਰ ਅਤ ਹੀ ਤਬ ਡਰਾ। ਕਾਮ ਭੋਗ ਤਿਹ ਤ੍ਰਿਅ ਸੰਗ ਕਰਾ। ਇਹ ਛਲ ਸੈ ਵਾ ਕੋ ਛਲਿ ਗਈ। ਰਾਇ ਬਿਰਾਗਿਯਹਿ ਭੋਗਤ ਭਈ। ੧੨। ਅੰਤ ਤ੍ਰਿਯਨ ਕੋ ਕਿਨੂੰ ਨ ਪਾਯੋ। ਬਿਧਨਾ ਸਿਰਜਿ ਬਹੁਰਿ ਪਛੁਤਾਯੋ। ਜਿਨ ਇਹ ਕਿਯੌ ਸਕਲ ਸੰਸਾਰੋ। ਵਹੈ ਪਛਾਨਿ ਭੇਦ ਤ੍ਰਿਯਾ ਹਾਰੋ। ੧੩। ੧। {ਚਰਿਤਰ ੩੧੨, ੫.੪ ੮੭} Arths please. Does the Creator regrets after creating something?

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! Nasty kid having nasty fantasies. First it was mares in Chariter 68 of Dasam Granth, now humans. Very nasty indeed. Admin Note: Please refrain from making bold statements. If you wish to debate charitars in details, please create another thread but this board will not tolerate bold statements made against sri dasam granth or its compositions.

TheKhalsaFauj's Reply.

He taught about Dasam Granth what he was taught by Gurbachan Singh Bhindranwala. The same Gurbachan Singh who says Guru Har Rai had 8 wives and that the Kachehra of Khalsa is same as that of Hanuman. Gurbachan Singh wasn't without mistakes. This is not about his views on DG, on which I don't agree, but about Akhauti Jathedars, on which I do agree. If we go by your logic, AKJ's and DDT's can't stand togheter on issue of Dasam Granth, because their views on Raagmala, Kes/Keski, etc differs. Why are Nihangs and Taksalis united on the issue of Dasam Granth, when Nihangs love jhatka and weed but Taksal is anti Meat and anti weed? Hypocrisy, no? Respect for Bhai Jarnail Singh Ji for standing up for the panth and defending Sikhi and Harmandar Sahib, but this doesn't mean I see them as an incarnation of Guru Gobind Singh or God as some do. He was, afteral, a Human, and was free to have his own opinions, thoughts or interpretations.

Harjas Kaur, you are lost. Bani says: HINDU ANNA TURKU KANA. A Hindu is blind and a Muslim has only one eye. Bani says: NA HUM HINDU NA MUSALMAAN. We are neither Hindus, nor Muslims.

No defense because he couldn't defend himself, even if it was true. Read the sources already mentioned in this topic.

This Maryada is of SGPC 1920s-1930s. Ardaas before was done without Chandi Di Vaar stanzas too A Gutka from 1927 proves that!

Don't believe in anything besides my Guru, Guru Granth Sahib. Wheter its Jaap or Charitropakhyan, it is third party compositions and I don't recite them either. Amrit Sanchaar: Panth shall decide when Sarbat Khalsa is called after majority of Panth has become Anti DG (many are becoming anti DG) Daily Nitnem: All Banis in Guru Granth Sahib before the Sri Raag (1st raag). Japji Sahib in morning, Sodar and Sopurkh Sahib in evening and Sohila Sahib before sleeping. Besides that a Sikh can and should recite as much Bani as he can from the Guru Granth Sahib. I never said I exist since 1699. Did you just consume 'hemp'?

Well following Gurmat I don't consume that stuff... And neither do I deal that sort of stuff.. So, Mr. Expert, thanks for correcting about that.

I didn't say I believe Tara Singh over Nihangs. He said that between the two he picked Nihangs. So going by his logics I said that. Waheguru gave you a gift - grey cells. Use them. I don't believe every single thing that Pandit Tara said. He was pro Dasam Granth, I'm not. But there is no harm in taking good points of others, is there?

You choose Nihangs? So you also justify consumption of cannabis? Sarbloh Granth is by Sukha Singh and not Guru Gobind Singh.

Which whole parsang? Tell me. Yes FatehSingh provided you link ik13 which has Suraj Prakash amongst many other granths... So provide asap.

I started the thread. If you can't back up what you say then don't post.

Anyone know outcome of the discussion of Guru Sahib with the Brahmin(s)? Any Puratan sources to confirm this?

Where in the Suraj Prakash does it state the above? Good point. Rehatnamas are unreliable, but they do show that Vedic ceremony is not what Sikh used to do during marriages. Anand Sahib was read at all ceremonies in life, wheter birth or death... And Anand from the 'Anand Karaj/Anand Viah' should mean something, right? Most likely Anand Sahib. What do other puratan sources say about Guru's marriages?

He didn't even get a scratch. Typical propaganda by DG chelas. Inder's favorite pasttime seems to be lying... Calling police isn't cowardice, its a sign of intelligence.

Thanks for your input Fateh Singh veer. Mukatnama that is found in Sau Sakhi says in verse 25 that a Sikh shouldn't have relations without "Anand Viah". Mukatnama was uttered by Guru Gobind Singh after the creation of Khalsa. The Daya Singh Rehatnama instructs one not to get married from the hands of a Brahmin. And a Especially in that time (and even now for that matter), Vedic marriage could only be done performed by a Brahmin, isn't it? So the Rehatnama is indirectly saying not to have Vedic marriage ceremony. So Gyani Gyan Singh is wrong on that 'Bed Bidhi', isn't he?

If it didn't happen then why didn't Bhai Vir Singh etc protest against Gyani Gyan Singh putting allegations on them? If something put allegations on me which aren't true I would surely issue some statement or whatever, but there is no proof that Bhai Vir Singh did it.