amardeep Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Gurfateh ji. I was listening to some katha on tv by a man called Mahraz Tarlochan Darshan Das. It was really an eye opener and i really liked it, as he give some depth to Gurbani and relates them to our present day and age etc. Also he quotes from the bible, islamic mystic saints and the Gita which i like. I went to his website at www.dasdharam.com and i wonder what you guys think of him. first i thought he was a nirmala because i noticed he did'n have the name of Singh attached to his name, yet he praises Gurbani and the Gurus alot, but the website calls his master Satguru etc, which make me wonder who are they? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawrof Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Isn't this Darshan das's sect?...Darshan Das was murdered wasn't he? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malwe Da Sher Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Yes and Yes... although I believe "He got popped" is the correct terminology. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawrof Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Sorry, to add, most nirmallay I've come across or heard about have singh appended to their name. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 he was notihng to do wiv sikhi. he juss quoted gurbani as an where it suited him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted January 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 you should hear his katha, it is very interesting. he might not be a sikh, but still he has loads of knowledge 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 i agree wiv that, i think as a pracharak he is ok. the thing wid darshan das was that when he came to uk in 87, the indian govt issued a statemnet to he BBC that the " guru of the sikhs will be visiting uk". given what hapned over the nirankaris in 78 etc govt support of non-sikh movements, 2 sikhs here shot him in southall. i have heard tape of him being shot. jus b4 he is shot a woman in the gathering is asking him whether its ok to vidit india according to the stars cosmosiclagy or summat. anyway i cant say for sure that he promoted hisself as guru of sikhs anywhere, but certainly niether him or his followers did anyting about him being the guru of the sikhs statement. i have heard that he had women sucking his toe, and that is not an euphimism for anything. anyhow i wouldnt really make a point of listening to him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maha Kharag Singh Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 its also apparent that he used to say randomly "naala khol!" and some thick and slow women would take off their salwara and when some woman refuted what he was saying he quickly said "dill de naale kholo" He was a dirty man and his son is probably no less. Like they say the apple doesnt fall far from the tree 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyhp32 Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 How easy is it to impress someone by quoting Gurbani, Gita or other religious texts especially if the listener doesn't have any indepth knowledge of Gurbani himself? Most of the people who frequent these type of fakes have very little knowledge of Gurbani so are easily impressed. Those who have indepth knowledge of Gurbani have no need to visit or listen to such charlatans. A friend of mine went to one of his diwans in the 80s and he said he left as soon as Darshan Das started on his favourite subject of trying to criticise Guru Gobind Singh by saying that it was wrong for Guru Gobind Singh to use violence! It didn't come as much of a surprise to him when heard that he had been shot in a local school in Southall in 1987. The local Punjab newspaper Des Pardes published a picture of his corpse as it lay on the slab in the mortury. Now that's what I call investigative journalism! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted January 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 The katha i heard was him talking about Prem Bhagat, which is common for all religions and he talked of how easy it is for mankind to fall in love with their body and forget their soul etc. I learned alot from that katha, if he is a sikh or not matters less. I think its okay to attain knowledge from people of other religions if they have that knowledge.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 yeh me has no problem wiv that. however what gets me is that some people know how to take advantage of uneducated people, or even superstitioous people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1santkhalsa Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 that guy calls himself a guru - MAHARAJ he calls himself his followers believe he is a guru he doesnt believe in the authority of Guru Granth Sahib yet quote from Guru Granth Sahib Ji what a fake - deserves shooting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted January 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 people have to realise that the word Guru is not a sikh word and existed before the coming of Guru Nanak, so if a person from another religion calls himself a Guru it does not mean that we as sikhs should hold any grudges against him.. if he on the other hand claims to be in a linage of Sikh Gurus then we have the right to respond.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sardar Moderator Singh Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 sant khalsa: what a fake - deserves shooting Whilst you are entitled to your opinions, this is a public forum, please note the implications of your comment - you are in effect suggesting that Sikhs are above the law. You will not be the first, since the "British Organisation of Sikh Students" (BOSS) have long had a 'poem' in the English language glorifying this act (see "I shot a man, don't give a damn") and on numerous occasions, their spokesman Harjit Singh Grewal (Watford) has openly praised the killers. This is precisely what feeds the commentary that religious people are mindless bafoons who in the name of the 'imaginary best friend' and 'outdated scriptures' feel justified to act above modern day legal rulings on subjects such as murder. The actions of Harjit Singh Grewal also highlight a growing concern that Sikhs and others in the UK are beginning to follow the lead of their Pakistani and Bangladeshi Muslims counterparts, noting the "effectiveness" of their 'mob-rule' tactics and methods. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 what good would shooting him do anyway? he hasnt done anything against sikhi either. another DAS would just step into his shoes befoer the body even got cold. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 if he on the other hand claims to be in a linage of Sikh Gurus then we have the right to respond.. exactly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1santkhalsa Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 i believe sikhs are above any law 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maha Kharag Singh Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 i believe sikhs are above any law and i believe that you are harbouring terrorist values with such a statement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 "i believe sikhs are above any law" That sounds like a really ignorent statement, what are you basing this on? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 you dont think he may be joking at all? i find it funny. Neo, we have every right to respond to pepole caliming lineage from Guru. DO you believe this when it comes to Namdharis Gurus? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1santkhalsa Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 terrorist values? - what are terrorist values? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wu Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 1santkhalsa do you pay taxes? do you pay speeding tickets if you get any? do you take off ur kirpan when going on a plane? i could go on... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1santkhalsa Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 follow the laws of the country where they dont collide with gursikhi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maha Kharag Singh Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 terrorist values? - what are terrorist values? Values where one feels that one is above the nation which houses, feeds, and protects and provokes others to rebel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1santkhalsa Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 doesn't akaal purakh feed protect and house you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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