SURYADEV Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 In Sanatan/Indian thought Ghandaravs are the celestial musicians or singers of heaven. I have heard certain classical musicians of India with the same title. Could anyone explain who these individuals are? Are they higher that a Pandit or Ustad of Indian music? Is the title awarded by a guru to the shish or by peers? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Which musicians have you heard with this title, could you please provide a reference/link. Ghandaarva originally refers to the 3rd sampuran parent scale of the original 3,000 year old sangeet system of India. This scale was only to be used in Ghandaar Lok or by select Muni's for deity worship. Natya Shastra and Dhattilam are the first texts to mention this term, later, upon Mahabaratas/Ramayanas scriptural birth, musical references are taken from the summarised Natya Ved - and the word evolves, as per the mention of divine musicians above. I suppose temple kirtani may be called Ghandaravs, but I would have expected this only to the be the case in South India. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 i have heard of a kirtani who uses the takhalas "gandharv". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maha Kharag Singh Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 in mythology gandharvs are the musicians of Indras darbaar and Apsaras his dancers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURYADEV Posted October 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Checked out the old , old cassettes I have from this chap: Released by Music India, various ragas performed by Kumar Ghandarav. Just realised: it could simply be his name; though ironic that he should turn out to be a classicist! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURYADEV Posted October 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Checked out the old , old cassettes I have from this chap: Released by Music India, various ragas performed by Kumar Ghandarav. Just realised: it could simply be his name; though ironic that he should turn out to be a classicist! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chhinderpalsingh Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 chatanga1 probably referring late "Sant Sarwan Singh Gandharv" Dumeli Wali, MA,(Anandpur Sahib) who had been a great Kirtnia alongwith player of almost of the instruments. He also contributed a lot by writing Volumes 1 to 6 of Gurmat Sangeet Books titled "Sur Simran Sangeet". In the books, there is lot of detailed description of Gurmat Sangeet, Raagas as well as notations of Gurbani Shabads in various raagas. The books are in very simple & folk language in Punjabi. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 yes it is Sant Sarwan Singh Gandharv Domeli wale 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Khalsa Fauj Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 in mythology gandharvs are the musicians of Indras darbaar and Apsaras his dancers That is right and Mahan Kosh also gives the same definition for gandharavs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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