Harbhajan Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Hazur Sahib has unique maryada Varinder Walia Tribune News Service Hazur Sahib, October 29 Maryada (Sikh code) does not allow the Jathedar of Takht Hazur Sahib to leave Nanded till death and he has to be a “brahmchari†throughout life. As per two-century-old maryada, the Jathedar, Giani Kulwant Singh, can’t attend the meetings of Akal Takht though he nominates his second in command (vice-Jathedar) to attend the meetings of Sikh high priests at Akal Takht. Though the first ardas in the wee hours is performed at Takht Hazur Sahib for allowing the Sikh community to do a pilgrimage of all historical gurdwaras, including the Golden Temple, as per the maryada of Takht Hazur Sahib, Giani Kulwant Singh can’t pay obeisance there. Talking to The Tribune, Dalip Singh, a class fellow of Giani Kulwant Singh, said he (Jathedar) had to remain at Nanded as his duty starts at 2 am with the performance of ardas before washing of the sanctum sanctorum with holy water of the Godavari is carried out. After a break of only a couple of hours, the Jathedar has to perform the daily rites in the sanctum sanctorum where even other Sikh high priests are not allowed to enter. Finally, the Jathedar goes back to his official residence in the Takht complex after the evening prayers, which are performed in the most traditional manner. Gagrya Sikh Hardyala Singh, who carries gaggar (a silver utensil) for carrying holy water from the Godavari to Takht Hazur Sahib, too has to be bachelor and can’t leave Nanded till death. A task force of the youth, carrying traditional weapons, escort him barefoot. The tradition of performing aarti besides ardas on the riverbanks after the first pitcher is drawn is a mesmerising experience. Being a separate committee, the maryada of Takht Hazur Sahib is quite different from that of Akal Takht and the SGPC. Milk and water of the Godavari is sprayed on the gurdwara building from a fire tender on the eve of Diwali. The naubat (a traditional musical instrument) is played by non-Sikhs in front of Takht Hazur Sahib every day. The most significant variation among maryada of Takht Hazur Sahib and other three Takhts of Punjab is that the recitation of Guru Granth Sahib and the Dasam Granth go on simultaneously. Unlike at the gurdwaras and Takhts under the control of the SGPC, devotees offer “panjeer parsadâ€, which can be collected from the counters put up by the Takht management. source: http://www.tribuneindia.com/2008/20081030/punjab1.htm#4 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hukamji Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 its all a business , Milk and water of the Godavari is sprayed on the gurdwara building from a fire tender on the eve of Diwali whats the point in that , i'm sure they can utilise the milk more productively i.e. give to the needy There is no collectiveness , its all about ego / power -- not good at all 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragmaala Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 its all a business , whats the point in that , i'm sure they can utilise the milk more productively i.e. give to the needy There is no collectiveness , its all about ego / power -- not good at all some of it is called shardha and devotion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithar Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 its all a business , whats the point in that , i'm sure they can utilise the milk more productively i.e. give to the needy There is no collectiveness , its all about ego / power -- not good at all I agree with Ragmala. Hukamji, Shardha and our tradition should be promoted if it's not hurting anyone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURYADEV Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 another aspect of the maryada - also at patna sahib i think- is that first puja is done to shastar and only then to SGGS. When sangat bows down, it is to the inner sanctum and not to the Aad/Dasam Granths which are at the sides. I've been there a few times and I can say that the experience is absolute magical. no other takhat is the same! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 at the takhts shastars are worshipped. thier maryada is unique to themsleves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Takth maryada's are unique should never be criticized by anyone. In fact all the puratan mahapursh always advise the student never to criticize takth maryada. All five takths are pillars in the Sikhism. They come before than person personal association with samparda's/jatha . It was quite saddening to see random joe blow banda coming on sikhsangat to ridicule maryada of takths and get away with it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURYADEV Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Takth maryada's are unique should never be criticized by anyone didn't critisize... just stating it. But agree with all you said N3o s!ingh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 I know bro you didn't , i m just generally speaking by looking at the sad state of affairs with youths these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maha Kharag Singh Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Kachi Lassi da shitta is an encient tradition. Id like to see how much punn daan these people who critisise do themselves, instead of pointing fingers at Takhts. I think we all forget that a takht is an authority if we didnt no one would dare question. but anyways as Satguru Nanak Says Jo Kisch Kahai Pichay Pashutae 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Where did all the different maryadas at different takhts stem from ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silence Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Brahmins of Guru Nanak Dev Ji's times: "Who does he think he is, changing our age old traditions? We are Brahmins, our practices must never be challenged by anyone!" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maha Kharag Singh Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 I expected this from you. So typical.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragmaala Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 did u guys hear abt the row over the jhatka of bakra at hazur sahib on gurpurab , and how the blood was used to do tilak of shastars and palki sahib, i read it in a punjabi newspaper this morning , i dont know how much truth it contains lol this one guy who spoke up against jhatka ceremony got beaten up I was wondering why do shastars need tilak of blood anyways ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maha Kharag Singh Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 the chandi in shastar always require blood. Just as Mahachandis unquenchable thirst for rakht 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amriteshwar Singh Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 the guy who got beaten up was ditstributing anti dasam granth leaflets in the parkarma of HAzoor sahib. THE other Person who had an altercation when the tilak was going on was because he picked a fight with a person who was standing right in fromt of him and this person asked him to move behind and they had a fight and so on.... and when he coudnt get in the front he started abusing the hazoori singhs for not letting hin come in front and out of frustation maybe he said somehting against athe thakat maryada and he got slightly roughed up after pleading to him to like a million tiimes not to rake up a issue there when the tilak is going on... he was first politly asked to meet the panj pyare sahibans before he created a fuss there. nobody in hazoor sahib is mad to beat up sangat who come there all the way for darshan. no offfence to any one. Hazoori Singhs here are committed to the sangat worldwide and are thankful to everyone who've come all the way there to celebrate the 300th year of maharaj's gurtta gaddi. JEE AAYAAN NU sadh sangat ji. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragmaala Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 the guy who got beaten up was ditstributing anti dasam granth leaflets in the parkarma of HAzoor sahib. THE other Person who had an altercation when the tilak was going on was because he picked a fight with a person who was standing right in fromt of him and this person asked him to move behind and they had a fight and so on.... and when he coudnt get in the front he started abusing the hazoori singhs for not letting hin come in front and out of frustation maybe he said somehting against athe thakat maryada and he got slightly roughed up after pleading to him to like a million tiimes not to rake up a issue there when the tilak is going on... he was first politly asked to meet the panj pyare sahibans before he created a fuss there. nobody in hazoor sahib is mad to beat up sangat who come there all the way for darshan. no offfence to any one. Hazoori Singhs here are committed to the sangat worldwide and are thankful to everyone who've come all the way there to celebrate the 300th year of maharaj's gurtta gaddi. JEE AAYAAN NU sadh sangat ji. well that clears up a lot newspapers always present facts it in a twisted manner 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maha Kharag Singh Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 probably some bhaiya reporting, whos stuck up raj thakreys arse to jeopardise sikh's names. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 i cant beleive the gall of the guy who was delivering leaflets. At sachkhand hazur sahib of all places, where Dasam Guru Granth is given its rightful place. hope he got some serious thappar as a warning to others, who just wana make a noise at the worng time. if sum1 chooses not to bleive in dasam granth, it upto them but there is a time and place for everyting. now at lot of people who witnessed this, will have this scene in their minds a lot longer than the actual porograme itself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samosasingh Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 """Gagrya Sikh Hardyala Singh, who carries gaggar (a silver utensil) for carrying holy water from the Godavari to Takht Hazur Sahib, too has to be bachelor and can’t leave Nanded till death. A task force of the youth, carrying traditional weapons, escort him barefoot. The tradition of performing aarti besides ardas on the riverbanks after the first pitcher is drawn is a mesmerising experience. Being a separate committee, the maryada of Takht Hazur Sahib is quite different from that of Akal Takht and the SGPC."""" Actually the Gagria Singh Baba Hardayal Singh has come to our city in Canada and visited many Canadian cities last Vasakhi. I sat with him for sometime and we had discussions on his experience while doing seva. He is a really nice person and I was glad I met him. Maybe he is relieved from his seva and is travelling abroad??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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