Mystical Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Nihang Niddar Singh demonstrates the traditional Sikh Battlefield Martial Art of Shastarvidiya (Science of Weapons) at the Martial Arts Festival held in April 2009 Leicester. For more information on Shastarvidiya please visit www.shastarvidiya.org Note: This video is for educational purposes only and is not intended to be an instructional video. Attempting to copy techniques could lead to injury. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maha Singh Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Great video! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest caveman Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 vidiya! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matheen Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 I read the MAI article - Niddar says he grew up in India and was taught the Vidiya. On the other hand, I know a few people who grew up next door to him in Wolverhampton and even went to the same Kung Fu classes when he was still a mona, before he got into Shastarvidya. It seems he also has the shakti of being in two places at once. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Matheen, what did you think of the rest of the article? It was the biggest article in the magazine, spread over around 4 pages, I am sure you must have a little more feedback than theorising Nidar Singhs ominpresence abilities..? It was actually quite normal for boys of that generation to have split childhoods, spending some years in India and some years in UK over their school life, I know quite a few guys from Nidar Singhs age group from Wolverhampton who did the same thing. They didn't get any O-levels, but they were very streetwise and could communicate (read, write and speak) in Punjabi no different to a kids brought up in India. This clearly shows when you speak to Nidar Singh or hear him having a conversation with desi lok. Some desi parents thought that sending their boy to India during childhood would make him a man and appreciate life over here (esp those who used to get into trouble) - having to work the keths with their relatives etc... No big mystery here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maha Singh Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Funny how Niddar Singh has never done a class in Kung Fu!! He did however attend some Jujitsu and Waradu classes whilst he was in England during his learning so that he could compare styles and arts. His main influence prior to learning shastarvidiya was his Grandfather who taught him Kushti techniques and Dand Behtak regimes. "I know a man who knows a man" isnt exactly the best way to get down to real truths. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matheen Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 He used to attend Kung Fu classes in Wolverhampton - but was a mona then, and just known as Surjit Bains. As his webites show, he isn't big on honesty. The rest of the article portrayed him as a hankaari who could do with some nimrita and dignity. One thing he wasn't asked, and should have been, is why were Indians occupied and subjugated for thousands of years if they had this martial art all along? He shouldn't have brought up the Uptej Singh 'fight' either because it's irrelevant to the readers of MAI, however it was funny how he claims to have gate-crashed the gatka akhara with his boys, and then say 'they didn't let us film'. If you have a scanner, maybe you can put the article here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAadmin Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Can someone scans the flipping article so joe blow people's like me can read it and decide it for ourselves? grrrrrrrrrrrrrr... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Matheen, what has his previous name, him being a mona when young and attending alleged 'kung-fu' classes got to do with anything? Your just trying to get cheap, pointless digs in, and are doing nothing more than embarrassing yourself. Actually, I think the article went to show it was Uptej who lacked nimrata - and the story fits. A gatka entertainer will always be a gatka entertainer. That picture right at the start of the bout clearly shows it was over before the dazzling helicopter blade imitation started. No matter what one thinks of Nihang Singhs opinions over history (which he gives references too) or his religious beliefs (which is something personal to all of us) only a totally martially ignorant person would deny he has immense puratan vidya. Your Indian history comment is also weak. There is more to winning wars than vidya. Don't forget for millenia, only Kshatriya were allowed to become warriors, Dasmesh Pita changed this and hence Akaal Purkhs Fateh - all became warriors, people from all castes (not just Jatts) - the martial legend Bhai Sukha Singh Ji (Massa Rangar fame) is a perfect example of this - he was from a poor thrkaan family - yet his presence alone used to change the tide of wars, his martial ability was the enemies worst nightmare. This is one of the reason the Hill Rajas had issues with Dasmesh Pita, that he was decorating 'neech' jaath with shastar and associated vidya. The Indians also followed out dated rituals which left then weak in the face of a modern and powerful enemy. All this aside, you forget that the invading hoards didn't end up ruling half the world for no reason - they too were numerous and brave warriors with everybit of knowledge of warfare gained over thousands of years. The Sikh wars were not some fairytale victories as modernists would have us believe, they were hard fought against a tough enemy and immeasureable Sikh lives were lost and blood spilt. It was the Sikh parchaar which was the secret to the Khalsas success, the parcharaks were the ones who who replenishing the dying numbers day on day. That said - the Khalsa had Akaal Purkh on their side, the Indians who lost their Kingdoms had become lazy, as had the Mughals when the Khalsa and the British finally removed them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matheen Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Actually, I think the article went to show it was Uptej who lacked nimrata ......... The whole article shows his hankaar, leaving aside the Uptej section. He may have vidiya, but it doesn't make up for dishonesty, lies and the damage he's done to the name of the Buddha Dal and Nihang Singhs in general. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystical Posted April 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Can someone scans the flipping article so joe blow people's like me can read it and decide it for ourselves? grrrrrrrrrrrrrr... http://www.martialartsltd.co.uk/mai/ You can buy a digital copy but you need to register. But yeh someone pleaseee scan it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithar Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Agree with Matheen. What good is ones Vidya if one has such beleifs? You can have all the Vidya of thousands of Pandits/Gianis combined but if that vidya is being used to corrupt/misguide others then that vidyaa means nothing IMO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freed Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Gurfateh ! For N30 Bhai Sahib and all our Non UK members I have added the article here ; http://www.sikhawareness.com//index.php?sh...amp;#entry97522 Enjoy, Freed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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