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Well it didnt take them long at all, but it seems China is moving to close any technological gaps before America can bring its military weight to bare on them in the East Asian theatre.


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Well it didnt take them long at all, but it seems China is moving to close any technological gaps before America can bring its military weight to bare on them in the East Asian theatre.


It's a well known fact that the Chinese are the best in reproducing what has already been invented. When the Serbs shot down an American stealth bomber during the Kosovo war, I'm sure they must have shared the wreckage with the Russians or the Chinese. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese and the Russians are working jointly in created weapons to counter US made weapons. These two countries have formed the SCO which is basically an organization to counter US imperialism in their respective spheres of influence.

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Chinese are impressive.

And yes, I know they can be pukkay haram-zaday to their citizens.

But still they are impressive.

You should all drink more green tea too, to combat cholesterol.

Maybe China will bring drama to whitey Saxon?

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Military strength eludes China, which looks overseas for arms


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By John Pomfret

Washington Post Staff Writer

Saturday, December 25, 2010; 12:00 AM

MOSCOW - The Moscow Machine-Building Enterprise Salyut on the east side of town has put up a massive Soviet-style poster advertising its need for skilled workers. The New Year's party at the Chernyshev plant in a northwest suburb featured ballet dancers twirling on the stage of its Soviet-era Palace of Culture.

The reason for the economic and seasonal cheer is that these factories produce fighter-jet engines for a wealthy and voracious customer: China. After years of trying, Chinese engineers still can't make a reliable engine for a military plane.

The country's demands for weapons systems go much further. Chinese officials last month told Russian Defense Minister Anatoly E. Serdyukov that they may resume buying major Russian weapons systems after a several-year break. On their wish list are the Su-35 fighter, for a planned Chinese aircraft carrier; IL-476 military transport planes; IL-478 air refueling tankers and the S-400 air defense system, according to Russian news reports and weapons experts.

This persistent dependence on Russian arms suppliers demonstrates a central truth about the Chinese military: The bluster about the emergence of a superpower is undermined by national defense industries that can't produce what China needs. Although the United States is making changes in response to China's growing military power, experts and officials believe it will be years, if not decades, before China will be able to produce a much-feared ballistic missile capable of striking a warship or overcome weaknesses that keep it from projecting power far from its shores.

"They've made remarkable progress in the development of their arms industry, but this progress shouldn't be overstated," said Vasily Kashin, a Beijing-based expert on China's defense industry. "They have a long tradition of overestimating their capabilities."

Ruslan Pukhov, the director of the Center for Analysis of Strategic Technologies and an adviser to Russia's ministry of defense, predicted that China would need a decade to perfect a jet engine, among other key weapons technologies. "China is still dependent on us and will stay that way for some time to come," he said.

Indeed, China has ordered scores of engines from the Salyut and Chernyshev factories for three of its new fighters - the J11B, a Chinese knock-off of the Russian Su-27; the J10, which China is believed to have developed with Israeli help; and the FC1, which China modeled on an aborted Soviet design. It also told Russia that it wants a third engine from another factory for the Su-35.

How China's military is modernizing is important for the United States and the world. Apart from the conflict with radical Islamism, the United States views China's growing military strength as the most serious potential threat to U.S. interests around the world.

Speaking in 2009, Liang Guanglie, China's minister of defense, laid out a hugely ambitious plan to modernize the People's Liberation Army, committing China to forging a navy that would push past the islands that ring China's coasts, an air force capable of "a combination of offensive and defensive operations," and rocket forces of both "nuclear and conventional striking power."

The Pentagon, in a report to Congress this year, said that that the pace and scale of China's military reform "are broad and sweeping." But, the report noted, "the PLA remains untested in modern combat," thus making transformation difficult to assess.

'Could be sitting ducks'

One area in which China is thought to have made the greatest advances is in its submarines, part of what is now the largest fleet of naval vessels in Asia. In October 2006, a Chinese Song-class diesel-powered attack submarine reportedly shadowed the USS Kitty Hawk aircraft carrier and surfaced undetected four miles from the ship. Although the Pentagon never confirmed the report, it sparked concern that China could threaten the carriers that are at the heart of the U.S. Navy's ability to project power.

China tried to buy Russian nuclear submarines but was rebuffed, so it launched a program to make its own. Over the past two years, it has deployed at least one of a new type of nuclear-powered ballistic-missile submarine called the Jin class and it may deploy as many as five more.

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the United States views China's growing military strength as the most serious potential threat to U.S. interests around the world.

Whitey sees potential threats everywhere. Schizo bastards.

If there wasn't a threat, they'd make one up.....

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Maybe China will bring drama to whitey Saxon?

The truth is that China has severe internal issues that it wants to address before it goes around the world beating people with Confucian bibles, little red books or any other kind of book that represents their culture. Or it could use nationalism to unite the nation and go on one massive killing spree like many white countries have done. Who knows?

Military strength eludes China, which looks overseas for arms


The thing about the chinese is that they are so different yet so similar to other asians like us. Chinese war mantra often talks about acting tough when you are weak and acting weak when you are strong. How far this applies to the people's red armed forces are unclear. Having got to know some chinese at uni, most of them seem to be obsessed with making money, girls, drinking, gambling etc and were pretty east to get on with. But quite a few were quite hostile when they thought I was just some ordinary indian, even though it wasnt hard to show that I wasnt some hindustani lover. These 'other type' as I like to call them are hard to explain, as they are not openly aggressive yet I could tell they had no love the whites or anyone else associated with them which unsurprisingly applies to the anglophilic sepoys out there. How this reflects a country of over a billion people is even harder to figure out. What I'm getting at is that the chinese are quite good at hiding things and only letting you see what they want you to see. Like how hard is it to build a jet engine? The nazis had advanced designs even when they were being bombed to oblivion. China can deploy satellites, put astronauts on trips in orbit around this planet, but cant produce a simple jet engine... In the west chinese students fill up courses for aeronautical engineering and avionics. Hindustan even produces some domestic aircraft with native technology yet many consider india's armed forces as piss poor compared to China. The chinese like to think outside the box. Looking at that prototype stealh bomber, it doesnt seem to be that stealthy but the threat of giant chinese fighter bombers racing across the pacific and laying waste to america will force the yanks to build up massive defences and new research to counter this. That will cost money and with america's 'defence' budget already coming to a fifth of its national expenditure, it may be that the chinese are just trying to force america to implode like america used the threat of star wars defences to force the soviet union to spend too much and collapse. Or they may just have accidently leaked pictures of something they are developing.

If there wasn't a threat, they'd make one up.....

Sometimes I think to myself 'what will the anglo history books say once they've killed off all the "dirty foreigners"?' Probably just a list of how everything decent in this world was made by whites and that the ungrateful non-whites couldnt handle it so they all had to be wiped out before they destroyed the great anglo way of life. It looks like we are all native americans now.

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Interesting Guardian piece. Looks like the Chinay may have reversed engineered aspects of a US stealth aircraft shot down over Serbia? Alternatively it could be the usual white bullshit that denies any non whiteys are capable of technological innovation on their own?

Chinese stealth fighter jet may use US technology


China may have bought parts of US F-117 Nighthawk shot down over Serbia in 1999, say experts

A Chinese stealth fighter jet that could pose a significant threat to American air superiority may borrow from US technology, it has been claimed.

Balkan military officials and other experts said China may have gleaned knowledge from a US F-117 Nighthawk that was shot down over Serbia in 1999.

"At the time, our intelligence reports told of Chinese agents crisscrossing the region where the F-117 disintegrated, buying up parts of the plane from local farmers," said Admiral Davor Domazet-Loso, Croatia's military chief of staff during the Kosovo war. "We believe the Chinese used those materials to gain an insight into secret stealth technologies ... and to reverse-engineer them."

The Nighthawk was downed by a Serbian anti-aircraft missile during a bombing raid on 27 March 1999. It was the first time one of the fighters had been hit, and the Pentagon blamed clever tactics and sheer luck. The pilot ejected and was rescued.

A senior Serbian military official confirmed that pieces of the wreckage were removed by souvenir collectors, and that some ended up "in the hands of foreign military attaches". Efforts to get comment from China's defence ministry and the Pentagon were unsuccessful.

Parts of the F-117 wreckage, including its left wing, cockpit canopy, ejection seat, pilot's helmet and radio, are exhibited at Belgrade's aviation museum. Zoran Milicevic, deputy director of the museum, said: "I don't know what happened to the rest of the plane. A lot of delegations visited us in the past, including the Chinese, Russians and Americans ... but no one showed any interest in taking any part of the jet."

Zoran Kusovac, a Rome-based military consultant, said the regime of the former Serbian president Slobodan Milosevic routinely shared captured western equipment with its Chinese and Russian allies. "The destroyed F-117 topped that wish-list for both the Russians and Chinese," Kusovac said.

China's multi-role stealth fighter – known as the Chengdu J-20 – made its inaugural flight on 11 January, revealing dramatic progress in the country's efforts to develop cutting-edge military technologies. It is at least eight or nine years from entering service.

Russia's Sukhoi T-50 prototype stealth fighter made its maiden flight last year and is due to enter service in about four years. It is likely that the Russians also gained knowledge of stealth technology from the downed Nighthawk.


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The Chinese would be incredibly stupid if they turned their noses up at a chance to steal american tech. Why do you think Britian and America spend so much on their secret services? Not just to stop musis blowing themselves up that's for sure. Everyone is stealing off each other. Japanese and German companies moan about the french or anglos trying to take their trade and industrial secrets.

Even if the stealth tech is stolen, most of the rest of the plane was built in China. If you watch the video the plane can actually fly. China built it without any foreigners so the whites can go stare at their debts.

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Chinese have won only one War and that was against India . Last time they tried to use their army was against Vietnam and what happened they were force to pull back by Vietnam Militia . Yes Militia not army.

As per China war doctrine they want to teach Vietnam , India and Taiwan a lesson then they will go after Japan.

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