DSG Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Sikhi has borrowed theology from Sanatan (aka Hindu) dharam in its entirety. If thats true according to Sher .... then why dont you follow it , practice it , read it .... you'll then realise 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 chatanga you know that it is a non-sensical argument. Is it? I have just applied your logic to it. Glad to see you have opened your eyes to see that you have posted non-sensical arguments(again). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Singh Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) meri sarkar, the sole point of stressing on BB's Hinduness is to back my assertion that both the 'communities' were one, as you have agreed too, and the schism is very recent. Gurus did not intend to create a new RELIGION. i totally agree about the "miniscule" number of Muslims baptized as khalsas or even becoming Sikhs. even Bhai Mardana, the highest "profiled" Muslim follower of Sikh Gurus did not become a Sikh. His family still continues to be Muslim. The war against tyranny...well, up to you which name you want to give to it, i would call it what it was - muslims war against kafirs which continues till date. Some sources of Sikh history tell us he did become a Sikh such as the history of guru nanak recorded by Bhai Mani Singh. It's possible to become a SIkh and not have your children become Sikhs, sikhi is a path which isn't forced upon others. There are mixed religious families today who have one member of the family belonging to another religion. You have made references in the past to Hindus giving their son's as Sikhs but they themselves didn't become Sikhs. Every race comes from another race in some point in history. Science is telling us Indian's came from Africa (yet India doesn't acknowledge it), that Indian's with other humans all came from a primate ancestor which would have resembled more of a monkey (but it isn't acknowledged widely in india). If you can't acknowledge your ancestors how can you expect others to acknowledge theirs. When Sikhs became Sikhs of the gurus they surrendered their caste, their family and accepted guru as their family and caste. Again if both communities are one why don't you attend then your communities gurdwara since Sikhs are of the same group as you, and then hear, read of your communities gurbani and take part in your belief system (sikhi's) sewa. Please don't tell me every gurdwara is hijacked by khalistani extremists, it's simply untrue many gurdwaras even in India and the west have prohibited khalistani, 84 talk totally. If this is about not agreeing with a few things preachers say many of us here attend gurdwaras listen to kirtan and don't agree with everything the preacher said. Edited January 27, 2014 by JatherdarSahib 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh123456777 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Eh Teesar Majhab KHALSA Upjeo Pardhaana, Jin Guru Gobind Ke Hukam Seon Gheh Khadag Dikhaana, Teh Sabh Dushtan Kau Ched Ke Akaal Japaana, Fir Aeso Hukam Akaal Ka Jag Meh Pragataana, Khalsa is not same as hinduism. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh123456777 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Khalsa is the third path 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) chatanga you know that it is a non-sensical argument. You are comparing apples with rice crackers. I would repeat one more time for the uninitiated, the foundation of every religion is based on theology and Sikhi has borrowed theology from Sanatan (aka Hindu) dharam in its entirety. Dharam, karam, reincarnation, same cremation rituals, same names, same language, same ...I can go on listing the similarities they have roti-beti da rishta. what else i should say? Pher ohi gal !!!! borrow ???? when you take anything that is lying in your house would you say you are 'borrowing' from your family ? Maalko Sikhi naal ang sang jud jaao..forget those people who are creating differences ..forget singh sabha ..or whatever you feel is creating the ridge ..ek bann jao..if you follow the Vedas ..read the Bani of Akaal Ustat sahib written by Guru Gobindsingh ji ...your troubles will be over ...all that is troubling you ...these differences ..you wont care ..i can promise you .. Listen to Katha by Giani Thakur singh ji ..the way he narrates ..the way Giani Sant singh ji Maskeen narrated ..you will understand things more clear ..life will be easier for you .. Edited January 28, 2014 by jaikaara 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarjeet Singh_1737 Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Pher ohi gal !!!! borrow ???? when you take anything that is lying in your house would you say you are 'borrowing' from your family ? Maalko Sikhi naal ang sang jud jaao..forget those people who are creating differences ..forget singh sabha ..or whatever you feel is creating the ridge ..ek bann jao..if you follow the Vedas ..read the Bani of Akaal Ustat sahib written by Guru Gobindsingh ji ...your troubles will be over ...all that is troubling you ...these differences ..you wont care ..i can promise you .. Listen to Katha by Giani Thakur singh ji ..the way he narrates ..the way Giani Sant singh ji Maskeen narrated ..you will understand things more clear ..life will be easier for you .. I am sorry but for Sher Gyani Thakur Singh is Taksal (created differences between his Hindu brethren and Sikhs touche) whereas Maskeen Ji is possibly a product of the Singh-Sabha and there was nothing Sanataan about that body. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarjeet Singh_1737 Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 The funny thing is, according to many individuals on facebook Sher or Doaba Sher got banned and blocked from many pages, and individual profiles due to his anti-Dasam Granth rants. See here how he avoids the Dasam Granth in it's entirety and hinges his moots on ambiguous strata. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 The problem he discusses in a way that it starts a mud slinging match ..we all start talking in this sense like him.."us" and "they" ..Sikhi doesnt have this concept ..It is a Rishi Saroop Khalsa ..concentrating on Gyaan ..peace be with Sher saheb...some things are better left undiscussed .. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 I avoid Dasam Granth..i am against DG? what non-sense. Dasam Granth supports my assertion (Hindus-Sikhs were one community till Arya Samaj and Singh Sabha created a rift which continues to grow) in a massive way. Dasam Granth is testimony of the fact that the 10th Guru sahib was a devi-upasak. "Ram katha jug jug Atal". how can i oppose such a wonderful evidence? It's highly inaccurate to say sri guru gobind singh ji was upasakh of devi where guru maharaj clearly said in same sri dasam guru granth- Aad-ant ekay avtara, soi guru samjhio hamara With that being said, shakti aspect of divine is highly respected and praised as one akaal purkh- aad shakti into various forms because shakti cannot confined in only devi, shakti has various forms including devi bhagvati - Bhaugati cannot be confined to only bhagvati chandi ji only. According to sant gurbachan singh ji katha he quoted from amar kosh where bhaugati is interpreted to have four theological meaning - 1. Akaal purkh 2. Kirpan- Sri Sahib 3. Bhagvati Chandi 4. Aad shakti 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Singh Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 I avoid Dasam Granth..i am against DG? what non-sense. Dasam Granth supports my assertion (Hindus-Sikhs were one community till Arya Samaj and Singh Sabha created a rift which continues to grow) in a massive way. Dasam Granth is testimony of the fact that the 10th Guru sahib was a devi-upasak. "Ram katha jug jug Atal". how can i oppose such a wonderful evidence? Blame the arya samaj for that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarjeet Singh_1737 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 I avoid Dasam Granth..i am against DG? what non-sense. Dasam Granth supports my assertion (Hindus-Sikhs were one community till Arya Samaj and Singh Sabha created a rift which continues to grow) in a massive way. Dasam Granth is testimony of the fact that the 10th Guru sahib was a devi-upasak. "Ram katha jug jug Atal". how can i oppose such a wonderful evidence? My, my is Sanataan tradition based on superficial dictums? Because if so you are the chief priest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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