Narendra Modi Led Nda Win Landslide Victory In Indian Elections

[Amandeep Hindustani]

Tony veer i have heard many time from Punjabi Hindus that things will be different if Punjabi Hindus were there . As per them Kashmiri Hindus are cowards that why then ran away .

Sher - What do you think , if government gives Punjabi hindus land and money to settle down in Kashmir things will change ?

The Punjabi hindus have already settled in Jammu in huge numbers particularly dogras, jatts, gujjars, rajputs. Former army men who are armed.

Check out the Jammu riots when these islamist pigs tried to attack them and got their asses handed to them. The separatists then had the gall to demand the hindus be disarmed. Well, it ain't happening and will be accelerated. Same thing happened during the Amarnath Yatra blockade when these punjabi hindus beat the shit outta the moslems.

As you saw today the GOI is now seriously considering scrapping article 370 and that is happening for a reason. It will pave the way for all hindus to move into kashmir with official patronage, armed.

[amar_jkp]

The Punjabi hindus have already settled in Jammu in huge numbers particularly dogras, jatts, gujjars, rajputs. Former army men who are armed.

Check out the Jammu riots when these islamist pigs tried to attack them and got their asses handed to them. The separatists then had the gall to demand the hindus be disarmed. Well, it ain't happening and will be accelerated. Same thing happened during the Amarnath Yatra blockade when these punjabi hindus beat the shit outta the moslems.

As you saw today the GOI is now seriously considering scrapping article 370 and that is happening for a reason. It will pave the way for all hindus to move into kashmir with official patronage, armed.

I would love to see if this really happens .

Dogras are not punjabi , they are rajputs of Jammu and majority of gujjars are muslims .

[chatanga1]

Azad Kashmir was lost to Pakistan when Kashmir was an independent state ruled by Maharaja Hari Singh.

But that doesn't mean that India wasn't an independent country as asserted before your "reply".

It does not matter if the tribals got the territory before the accession. India should have taken the whole state and by not doing so it became known as a soft state and hence the reason that the Chinese kicked the Hindustanis arse in 1962.

India has always been seen as weak by the chinese, and the whole world knows about it.

[tonyhp32]

India was independent country when pakis captured maharaja's territory, YES. what are you trying to say here, sorry I didnt understand.

India has always been seen as weak...

so? why China has not done a "crimea" with Arunachal Pradesh or tried to capture any other territory after 1962 debacle inflicted on a nascent nation, ill-prepared to take on such a massive military build-up? India has been sheltering Dalai Lama right next to the Chinese border and has refused to hand him (or lakhs of his followers) over to China for over 50 years now. why China has not been able to pushover such a weak nation and grab DL?

Ask Dalai Lama and his followers what India means to them. We have sacrificed 1000s of our soldiers, lost such a large unguarded land mass but no compromise on the human rights of Tibetan Buddhists.

China hasn't done anything about Arunachal Pradesh because there are no strategic assets there. But that might change if the coward Modi tries to do some sabre rattling or shoots his mouth off. Russia's Black Sea fleet is based in Crimea and that is the main reason why they have taken such a tough stance against Ukraine. If you think that fear of India is stopping the Chinese from walking into Arunachal Pradesh and Northern India like the Germans walked into France in 1940 then you are as deluded as Modi is. Short of a nuclear response, India cannot take on the Chinese army and if it does come to pass that the Chinese invade, most of the Punjabi Hindus will be switching their kids from English Medium schools to ones teaching Mandarin so they can take advantage of the new set up!

Ask Dalai Lama and his followers what India means to them. We have sacrificed 1000s of our soldiers, lost such a large unguarded land mass but no compromise on the human rights of Tibetan Buddhists.

What a joke! India defends the human rights of Tibetans and yet has one of the worst human rights records in Asia!

Edited May 29, 2014 by tonyhp32

[das]

To all the debating people. Can we've the pleasure to know what is your profession or if you've a family which gives you so much extra time to debate about "CHANGE"? We all are just debating on the things (be it religion, politics, policies, miniority etc. etc.) which are bound to change and we fools just debate and waste our time.

Please ponder upon the following you so-called educated/scholar people:

We cannot change our past. We can not change the fact that people act in a certain way. We can not change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude.
- Charles R. Swindoll

The foot feels the foot when it feels the ground.
- Buddha

You will not be punished FOR your anger, you will be punished BY your anger.
- Buddha

We say we waste time, but that is impossible. We waste ourselves.
- Alice Bloch

Our one leg is in Past, and another in the Future; but in the process we're wasting our present.
- My friend (he actually suggested that: Our one leg is in past, another in future and therefore we piss off on the present.

Time is what we want most, but what we use worst.
- William Penn

Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment.
- Buddha

Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without.
- Buddha

The wise ones fashioned speech with their thought, sifting it as grain is sifted through a sieve.
- Buddha

Edited May 29, 2014 by das

[Amandeep Hindustani]

China hasn't done anything about Arunachal Pradesh because there are no strategic assets there. But that might change if the coward Modi tries to do some sabre rattling or shoots his mouth off. Russia's Black Sea fleet is based in Crimea and that is the main reason why they have taken such a tough stance against Ukraine. If you think that fear of India is stopping the Chinese from walking into Arunachal Pradesh and Northern India like the Germans walked into France in 1940 then you are as deluded as Modi is. Short of a nuclear response, India cannot take on the Chinese army and if it does come to pass that the Chinese invade, most of the Punjabi Hindus will be switching their kids from English Medium schools to ones teaching Mandarin so they can take advantage of the new set up!

What a joke! India defends the human rights of Tibetans and yet has one of the worst human rights records in Asia!

Joke of the day. I bet you probably have not even read the news lately. Or perhaps its not in punjabi.

But here is whats going on in the far east. The chinese are threatening Japan, Vietnam and the Philippines over disputed islands. The Japanese, Vietnam still took the islands. Going back 4 weeks the Filipino navy for gods sake broke the Chinese cordon and planted the Filipino flag on the islands and the chinese didn't do anything except protest. Not to mention Taiwan.

In the case of war with India - the aim is simple. We cannot beat the Chinese but make every mountain, road, hole in the ground a death trap for the incoming chinese. Defensive posture. And I believe India has that much capability.

There will be no war in the forseeable future but Modi came at the right time. All military deals on hold are going to be pushed through.

As for Arunachal Pradesh it contains vast natural resources. But too bad for the chinese because the Indians largely control it.

But we cannot take the eye of the real devil - pakistan.

[Amandeep Hindustani]

Modi bullied Sharif over terrorism, showed him the way forward: Pak journalist

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Narendra Modi "bullied" his Pakistani counterpart Nawaz Sharif over terrorism at their first meeting, a writer in a Pakistani newspaper said on Thursday.

Jalees Hazir said in The Nation that Modi not "only bullied him over terrorism and (the) Mumbai attack but also showed him the way forward ... brushing issues of importance to Pakistan ... under the carpet.

"The irony is that though he might not be able to say it in so many words, this also seems to be our prime minister's lopsided blueprint for peace with India," said Hazir, a freelance columnist.

A day after he took oath as Prime Minister, Modi held bilateral meetings with Sharif and leaders of other Saarc nations and Mauritius who attended his swearing-in ceremony.

Pakistani officials said the Modi-Sharif meeting went off very well.

Hazir said: "Our prime minister's platitudes about peace and cooperation seemed more than a bit out of place in the face of the thorny issues highlighted by the Indian side. Had he been invited to be lectured by the new Prime Minister of India?

"Actually, it was Modi's harsh lecturing of a guest which was in bad taste..."

"The prime minister's desire for friendly ties with India is all very well but it obviously takes two to tango. And anyone following Modi's campaign should have known that he was in no mood to dance."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/Modi-bullied-Sharif-over-terrorism-showed-him-the-way-forward-Pak-journalist/articleshow/35734586.cms

Edited May 29, 2014 by Amandeep Hindustani

[tonyhp32]

Keep reading the Indian media, it's obviously turned you into a HIndustani drone. Modi bullying Sharif? what a joke. Let's see him extradite the planner of the Mumbai attacks or even get the training camps closed down. The India media will keep on lionising Modi and these stories will continue until he meets his first real crisis. When that happens he will be as useless as the previous 15 muppets who have ruled India since the British left. Nice to know that you at least have some semblance of sanity left in you and understand that India can never win a war against China.

[amar_jkp]

Indians doesn't have balls to mess with Pakistan and China . India already have done blunder by creating Bangladesh . Radical Hindus want to scrap article 370 but it doesn't going to help , economy which is already facing slow growth doesn;t want a another internal problem . Giving more power or autonomy to states like Kashmir, Punjab and almost all states of North East will help India.

[amar_jkp]

You obviously have no idea about the geopolitical situation in and around pakistan. while dangling a 31 billion dollar carrot in front of China, India has been investing big time in Afghanistan. Indian security and intelligence operatives are active all over the Pak-Afghan border. If Pak is accusing india of creating problems in Balochistan, there is substance behind such accusations.

Karzai and the likely new Prez of Afghanistan Abdulla Abdulla are strong pro-india politicians associated with the Northern Alliance.

http://www.opendemocracy.net/opensecurity/shazad-ali/india-jostling-for-geopolitical-control-in-afghanistan

If Modi has been aggressive (uncharacteristic for an indian pm in the last 20 years or so) in his talks with Nawaz, there is a clear signal - behave or else.

You guys are expecting too much from Modi and Pakistan is creating internal problem in India from every corner . You should read book called Breaking India only then you will realize whats happening .

[tonyhp32]

Nothing more amusing than a Hindu talking tough as some are doing here and a Gujju taking on the Punjabi establishment in Pakistan is an even bigger laugh. We will see in a few years time when Modi bites off more than he can chew and we will see that coward for what he is.

[Amandeep Hindustani]

Nothing more amusing than a Hindu talking tough as some are doing here and a Gujju taking on the Punjabi establishment in Pakistan is an even bigger laugh. We will see in a few years time when Modi bites off more than he can chew and we will see that coward for what he is.

No worries, if you know your history you would probably realize that a bamani from kashmir decimated and made them cry back to Lahore. Still probably the worst loss in moslem history. And I remember another community as well that thought they were so tough.

Go Modi- light that country on fire!

With a nationalist PM in Japan about to give up its pacifist way, the pro-india northern alliance, a hostile Iran on the other side and Narender Modi on this side we need to return the favour quickly and efficiently.

Light that country on fire...

Edited May 31, 2014 by Amandeep Hindustani

[Amandeep Hindustani]

BTW, the PM of Pakistan Mr. Zaid Hamid said that Pakistan only has 6 months until annihilation. This much fear? And the man hasn't even done anything.....yet..hehe. Here is a great article from the chinese mouthpiece - the PRC. 6 Wars that China will fight in the next 50 years.

It clearly says that India is one of the few countries against which China will face losses, instead of direct confrontation China needs to incite rebellion. Highlighted below.

hina is not yet a unified great power. This is a humiliation to the Chinese people, a shame to the children of the Yellow Emperor. For the sake of national unification and dignity, China has to fight six wars in the coming fifty years. Some are regional wars; the others may be total wars. No matter what is the nature, each one of them is inevitable for Chinese unification.

The 1st War: Unification of Taiwan (Year 2020 to 2025)

Though we are enjoying peace on the two sides of the Taiwan Strait, we should not daydream a resolution of peaceful unification from Taiwan administration (no matter it is Chinese Nationalist Party or Democratic Progressive Party). Peaceful unification does not fit their interests while running for elections. Their stance is therefore to keep to status quo (which is favourable to the both parties, each of them can get more bargaining chips) For Taiwan, “independence” is just a mouth talk than a formal declaration, while “unification” is just an issue for negotiation than for real action. The current situation of Taiwan is the source of anxiety to China, since everyone can take the chance to bargain more from China.

China must work out a strategy to unify Taiwan within the next ten years, that is, by 2020.

China must work out a strategy to unify Taiwan within the next ten years, that is, by 2020. By then, China will have to send an ultimatum to Taiwan, demanding the Taiwanese to choose the resolution of peaceful unification (the most preferred epilogue for the Chinese) or war (an option forced to be so) by 2025. For the purpose of unification, China has to make preparation three to five years earlier. So when the time comes, the Chinese government must act on either option, to give a final answer to the problem.

From the analysis of the current situation, Taiwan is expected to be defiant towards unification, so military action will be the only solution. This war of unification will be the first war under the sense of modern warfare since the establishment of the “New China”. This war will be a test to the development of the People’s Liberation Army in modern warfare. China may win this war easily, or it may turn out to be a difficult one. All depend on the level of intervention of the U.S. and Japan. If the U.S. and Japan play active roles in aiding Taiwan, or even make offensives into Chinese mainland, the war must become a difficult and prolonged total war. On the other hand, if the U.S. and Japan just watch and see, the Chinese army can easily defeat the Taiwanese. In this case, Taiwan can be under control within three months. Even if the U.S. and Japan step in in this stage, the war can be finished within six months.

The 2nd War: “Reconquest” of Spratly Islands (Year 2025 to 2030)

After unification of Taiwan, China will take a rest for two years. During the period of recovery, China will send the ultimatum to countries surrounding the Islands with the deadline of 2028. The countries having disputes on the sovereignty of Islands can negotiate with China on preserving their shares of investments in these Islands by giving up their territorial claims. If not, once China declares war on them, their investments and economic benefits will be taken over by China.

At this moment, the South East Asian countries are already shivering with Chinese military unification of Taiwan.

At this moment, the South East Asian countries are already shivering with Chinese military unification of Taiwan. On one hand, they will be sitting by the negotiation table, yet they are reluctant to give up their interests in the Islands. Therefore, they will be taking the wait-and-see attitude and keep delaying to make final decision. They will not decide whether to make peace or go into war until China takes any firm actions. The map below shows the situation of territorial claims over the Spratly Islands. (Map omitted)

Besides, the U.S. will not just sit and watch China “reconquesting” the Islands. In the 1stwar mentioned above, the U.S. may be too late to join the war, or simply unable to stop China from reunifying Taiwan. This should be enough to teach the U.S. a lesson not to confront too openly with China. Still, the U.S. will aid those South East Asian countries, such as Vietnam and the Philippines, under the table. Among the countries surrounding the South China Sea, only Vietnam and the Philippines dare to challenge China’s domination. Still, they will think twice before going into war with China, unless they fail on the negotiation table, and are sure they can gain military support from the U.S.

The best option for China is to attack Vietnam, since Vietnam is the most powerful country in the region. Beating Vietnam can intimidate the rest. While the war with Vietnam goes on, other countries will not move. If Vietnam loses, others will hand their islands back to China. If the opposite, they will declare war on China.

Of course, China will beat Vietnam and take over all the islands. When Vietnam loses the war and its islands, others countries, intimidated by Chinese military power, yet still with greediness to keep their interests, will negotiate with China, returning the islands and declaring allegiance to China. So China can build the ports and place troops on these islands, extending its influence into the Pacific Ocean.

Up till now, China has made a thorough breakthrough of the First Island Chain and infiltrated the Second one, Chinese aircraft carrier can have free access into the Pacific Ocean, safeguarding its own interests.

The 3rd War: “Reconquest” of Southern Tibet (Year 2035 to 2040)

China and India share a long border, but the only sparking point of conflicts between the two countries is only the part of Southern Tibet. China has long been the imaginary enemy of India. The military objective of India is to surpass China. India aims to achieve this by self-development and importing advanced military technologies and weapons from the U.S, Russia and Europe, chasing closely to China in its economic and military development.

In India, the official and media attitude is more friendly towards the U.S, Russia and Europe, and is repellent or even hostile against China. This leads to unresolvable conflicts with China. On the other hand, India values itself highly with the aids from the U.S, Russia and Europe, thinking it can beat China in wars. This is also the reason of long lasting land disputes.

In my opinion, the best strategy for China is to incite the disintegration of India. By dividing into several countries, India will have no power to cope with China.

Twenty years later, although India will lag behind more compared to China in military power, yet it is still one of the few world powers. If China uses military force to conquer Southern Tibet, it has to bear some losses. In my opinion, the best strategy for China is to incite the disintegration of India. By dividing into several countries, India will have no power to cope with China.

Of course, such plan may fail. But China should at least try its best to incite Assam province and once conquered Sikkim to gain independence, in order to weaken the power of India. This is the best strategy.

The second best plan is to export advanced weapons to Pakistan, helping Pakistan to conquer Southern Kashmir region in 2035 and to achieve its unification. While India and Pakistan are busy fighting against each other, China should take a Blitz to conquer Southern Tibet, at the time occupied by India.

India will not be able to fight a two front war, and is deemed to lose both. China can retake Southern Tibet easily, while Pakistan can control the whole Kashmir. If this plan cannot be adopted, the worst case is direct military action to take back Southern Tibet.

After the first two wars, China has rested for around ten years, and has become a world power both in terms of military and economy. There will only be the U.S. and Europe (on the condition that it becomes a united country. If not, this will be replaced by Russia. But from my point of view, European integration is quite probable) able to cope with China in the top three list in world power.

After taking back Taiwan and Spratly Islands, China has great leap forward in its military power in army, navy, air force and space warfare. China will be on the leading role in its military power, may be only second to the U.S. Therefore, India will lose this war.

The 4th War: “Reconquest” of Diaoyu Island [senkaku] and Ryukyu Islands (Year 2040 to 2045)

In the mid-21st century, China emerges as the real world power, accompanied with the decline of Japan and Russia, stagnant U.S. and India and the rise of Central Europe. That will be the best time for China to take back Diaoyu Island and Ryukyu Islands. The map below is the contrast between ancient and recent Diaoyu Island and Ryukyu Islands (map omitted).

From the historical records of Chinese, Ryukyu and other countries (including Japan), Ryukyu has long been the vassal states of China since ancient times, which means the islands are the lands of China.

Many people may know that Diaoyu Island is the land of China since the ancient times, but have no idea that the Japanese annexed Ryukyu Island (currently named as Okinawa, with U.S. military base). The society and the government of China is misled by the Japanese while they are discussing on the issues of the East China Sea, such as the “middle-line” set by the Japanese or “Okinawa issue” (Ryukyu Islands in Chinese), by coming to think that Ryukyu Islands are the ancient lands of Japan.

What a shame for such ignorance! From the historical records of Chinese, Ryukyu and other countries (including Japan), Ryukyu has long been the vassal states of China since ancient times, which means the islands are the lands of China. In this case, is the “middle line” set by Japan in the East China Sea justified? Does Japan have anything to do with the East China Sea? (Those who have no idea in these details may refer to “Ryukyu: An indispensable part of China since the ancient times” written by me)

The Japanese has robbed our wealth and resources in the East China Sea and unlawfully occupied Diaoyu Island and Ryukyu Islands for many years, the time will come that they have to pay back. At that time, we can expect that the U.S. will be willing to intervene but has weakened; Europe will keep silent; Russia will sit and watch the fight. The war can end within half of a year with overwhelming victory of China. Japan will have no choice but to return Diaoyu Island and Ryukyu Islands to China. East China Sea becomes the inner lake of China. Who dare to put a finger on it?

The 5th War: Unification of Outer Mongolia (Year 2045 to 2050)

Though there are advocates for reunification of Outer Mongolia at the moment, is this idea realistic? Those unrealistic guys in China are just fooling themselves and making a mistake in strategic thinking. This is just no good to the great work of unification of Outer Mongolia.

China should also pick the groups advocating the unification, aiding them to take over key posts in their government, and to proclaim Outer Mongolia as the core interests of China upon the settlement of Southern Tibet issue by 2040.

After taking Taiwan, we should base our territorial claims on the constitution and domain of the Republic of China (some people may raise a question here: why should we base our claims on the constitution and domain of the Republic of China? In such case, isn’t the People’s Republic of China being annexed by the Republic of China? This is a total bullshit. I will say: the People’s Republic of China is China; the Republic of China is China too. As a Chinese, I only believe that unification means power. The way which can protect the Chinese best from foreign aggression is the best way to the Chinese people.

We also need to know that the People’s Republic of China recognizes the independence of Outer Mongolia. Using the constitution and domain of the People’s Republic of China to unify Outer Mongolia is naked aggression. We can only have legitimate cause to military action using the constitution and domain of the Republic of China. What’s more, it is the case after Taiwan being taken over by China. So isn’t it meaningless to argue which entity being unified?). China should raise the issue of unification with Outer Mongolia, and to take propaganda campaigns inside Outer Mongolia. China should also pick the groups advocating the unification, aiding them to take over key posts in their government, and to proclaim Outer Mongolia as the core interests of China upon the settlement of Southern Tibet issue by 2040.

If Outer Mongolia can return to China peacefully, it is the best result of course; but if China meets foreign intervention or resistance, China should be prepared to take military action. Taiwan model can be useful in this case: giving an ultimatum with deadline in the Year 2045. Let Outer Mongolia to consider the case for few years. If they refuse the offer, then military action takes off.

In this moment, the previous four wars have been settles. China has the political, military and diplomatic power to unify Outer Mongolia. The weakened U.S. and Russia dare not to get involved except diplomatic protests; Europe will take a vague role; while India, Africa and Central Asian countries will remain silent. China can dominate Outer Mongolia within three years’ time. After the unification, China will place heavy troops on frontier to monitor Russia. China will take ten years to build up elemental and military infrastructure to prepare for the claim of territorial loss from Russia.

The 6th War: Taking back of lands lost to Russia (Year 2055 to 2060)

The current Sino-Russian relationship seems to be a good one, which is actually a result of no better choice facing the U.S. In reality, the two countries are meticulously monitoring the each other. Russia fears the rise of China threaten its power; while China never forgets the lands lost to Russia. When the chance comes, China will take back the lands lost.

When the Chinese army deprives the Russians’ ability to counter strike, they will come to realize that they can no longer match China in the battlefield.

After the victories of the previous five wars by 2050, China will make territorial claims based on the domain of Qing Dynasty (similar way by making use of the domain of the Republic of China to unify Outer Mongolia) and to make propaganda campaigns favoring such claims. Efforts should also be made to disintegrate Russia again.

In the days of “Old China”, Russia has occupied around one hundred and sixty million square kilometre of lands, equivalent to one-sixth of the landmass of current domain of China. Russia is therefore the bitter enemy of China. After the victories of previous five wars, it is the time to make Russians pay their price.

There must be a war with Russia. Though at that time, China has become an advanced power in navy, army, air and space forces, it is nevertheless the first war against a nuclear power. Therefore, China should be well prepared in nuclear weapons, such as the nuclear power to strike Russia from the front stage to the end. When the Chinese army deprives the Russians’ ability to counter strike, they will come to realize that they can no longer match China in the battlefield. They can do nothing but to hand over their occupied lands and to pay a heavy price to their invasions

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[Amandeep Hindustani]

A hostile Iran hates Sunni dominated Pakistan. Much of violence in Pakistan is done by Iran. Also, If rumour is true then Japan will formally give up its pacifist ways in the next couple of months with an amendment to their constitution. Allowing them to finally re-arm themselves for the first time since World War 2. The Singh Rai's of Japan (Samurai) are coming back.

[Amandeep Hindustani]

The Indian side needs to give more money to factions within the Pakistan Taliban to attack Paki forces. Remember, the Pakistan Taliban were created because of the assault on the Lal Masjid which outraged the fanatics. Basically, a Pakistani version of Operation Bluestar. Whether it was orchestrated by the Indian side I don't know but definitely the pakistani side has their opinion.

[tonyhp32]

India can try all it likes to create coalitions but it will fail miserably. It is surrounded by hostile neighbours on all sides. Once the US leaves Afghanistan the likelihood is that the Hindustani lover Karzai will be hanging from the nearest lamp post. Either the Taliban will take over or Afghanistan will be in for another period of civil war between the Taliban and the Northern Alliance. So there goes one Indian ally.

As for Iran, Modi has to play a balancing act because he is for closer ties with Israel as well. Any more closer ties with Israel which is what the Israelis desperately want and he will lose any support from Iran. Japan has been in the midst of a depression for the last 20 years. It might want to rearm but it has a history of having weak governments which fall every few years. If you think Japan will be any use then just look at it's armed forces, they can just about defend their own country. The USA won't be of much use to you, China could bring down the US financial system by selling off US government bonds and do you think the Wall St bankers will allow things to get that far. If there is a war between India and China, the only hope for India is it's nuclear weapons. No Afghans, Iranians, Japanese or Americans will rush to help Modi. Only nuclear weapons can save India from a repeat of 1962. Although it is still possible that the Chinese after a few year may tire of the loud mouth Modi and assess that putting him in his place like they did to the arrogant Nehru might be worth it.

[DalPanthAkali96crori]

i think this is all irellivant to sikhi the indian constitution just represents a collapsing nation that will soon become as abron as the sahara the punjab the home of sikhi has become a place with no faith going back to the old rituals of the past.

sikhi will reinstate itself and the ritualism will be destroyed.

i plead you humbly go back to sikhi one god three granths.

one niara khalsa of the guru the akali nihang singhs.

take amrit from them or anywhere! as long as you become the khalsa.

[tonyhp32]

Pakistan has played the Americans very well and if it was a case of dollars then why did the Americans invade when they could have just opened their wallets and swept the Taliban from power. I have no love for the Taliban but unlike closed minded Modi prasts like you, I understand reality and not hopeful thinking. The homeland of the Sikhs is Punjab, both East and West. 99% of our shrines are in this area, the rest of India is a dump.

India a strong country? What a joke, feed half the population with three square meals, give 70% of the population proper sanitation and proper housing and get rid of the corruption that is endemic in India where nothing gets done without a bribe and perhaps your slum infested country might be considered 'strong'.

Modi cannot create a stable government. Either he will become emasculated like Manmohan Singh and lead the country to economic disaster or he will act like the bully he is pick a fight with the wrong country/minority/religion and like all bullies run with his tail between his legs.

[Amandeep Hindustani]

I think the general unease amongst sikhs and moslems in regards to Modi belittles an insecurity about Hinduism. The fear of being dominated. This led to Pakistan and the call for Khalistan. We know the moslem and sikh cannot compete with the Hindu in business, politics, academia, or any other sphere. This is true in India and abroad. The moslem or sikh will never give out statistics or compare himself to Hindus in the above fields because they have no chance.

The last great myth was "1 Pakistani is worth 1000 hindus" or "1 Sikh is worth 38 Hindus" but that is slowly starting to fade as well. The ironic thing is the smashing was done by a bamani, gujju and bihari in the last 30-40 years. Generally, considered by moslems and sikhs as the most effeminate and weakest of the hindus.

I remember in high school a moslem gang with their pakistani leader were harassing, bullying hindus and sikhs until a tough gujju came out of nowhere and smashed their leader. The shock and look on their faces was funny. Soon, they were saying all religions are the same and we should not fight.

The fear is that the hindus have put 2 and 2 together or are close. And we are standing still. The insecurity stems from this fact. But anybody that has read indian history would know it was just a matter of time.

Modi will create a stable government because he has an absolute majority, experience, worldwide contacts and takes no crap. If the work is not done you are out. The governments have already dealt with him for the last 12 years and know him well. Hence, the optimism.

As for "picking fight" he has not except when the moslems burned pilgrims. The Pakistanis are a different story. We know terrorism will not stop so why not return the favour and that is exactly what is going to happen.

In the 90s and 2000s it was Togadia and his VHP, Bajrang Dal that called the shots in Gujarat. They terrorized the moslems. Upon a complaint from moslems Modi effectively put them out of business. You do not hear much from them anymore except on youtube videos. Togadia made the mistake of publicly criticizing Modi for destroying 118 hindu temples. They are not on talking terms.

[Amandeep Hindustani]

Wake up my dear Taliban admiring. We are living in 2014 and not 1996. Afghan warlords understand the language of dollar more than that of jehad. 100s of billions have been invested in keeping talibans out of Kabul and the NATO would ensure that the fanatics do not get to control Afghanistan ever again. every other country except Pakistan is also against Talibans.

get over your hate and jealousy for the homeland of Sikhs, India is much more stronger than you would like to believe. india needed a strong leader and stable government and in Modi led BJP they have exactly that. Pakistan on the other hand is always precariously positioned. encircled from all the sides by enemies like India, Iran and Afghanistan, being stabbed from inside by Punjabi Talibans; it would be a miracle if Pakistan can survive as one country.

The Taliban or (admin cut- lets not stereotype) in general will kill his own mother, slit her throat with his own hands for a few bucks. They can be easily bought and sold so we have to use this to our advantage. This is not only about Jehad, although that is the cover used. The drug and gun trade that makes afghan warlords billions is what this is about.

[tonyhp32]

slum infested country...for which Guru Teg Bahadur was called Hind di chaddar?

Modi has "picked fight" with the Muslims which are more than a minority - aafter all India is the second largest Muslim country in he world. i dont need to tell you who has been the winner. I dont want to say anything derogatory about sikhs ability to put up a fight so i better not comment on it. i would not remind you who ran with their collective tail between their legs in the last quarter of the 20th century.

It might not have been slum infested in the 17th century but it is a complete shythole now.

Tail between our legs? That is a Hindu thing and the Hindu only fights once he is in a mob and his enemies are alone or few in number. It's not for no reason that are Hindus are compared to animals that hunt in packs such as jackals and hyenas. Look at the Hindus in Punjab in 1947 apart from the Haryana Jats the rest were just cattle ready to be slaughtered by the Muslims. It was the Sikhs that saved your ungrateful people. Unfortunately the Sikh leadership lost the opportunity to create Khalistan and allowed millions of ungrateful Hindus to settle in Sikhs areas of East Punjab. That is the real tragedy of 1947. The Punjabi Hindus should have gone to Haryana and Delhi and UP. The Sikhs should have stayed in the Sikh areas of Punjab and there would not have been a need for a Punjabi suba struggle. As for the last decades of the 20th century, the real Kharkoos when there was unity among them used to rule the Punjab and the Police and bhaya central police force used to hide in their thanas and camps. Don't worry my friend no where is history has oppression stopped a nation's fight for freedom and Khalistan is no exception, the time will come when the Hindustanis and their chumchas like you will be kicked out of Punjab. While the Sikh remember their history the Hindu can only tell stories from his mythology. It took many decades for the Khalsa Raj to come to Punjab the first time around and the Khalsa will rule again in Punjab. All freedom struggles have their ups and down, the Mughals had declared twice that the Khalsa had been destroyed in the 18th century and yet a few decades later the Khalsa was ruling from Jhelum to Yamuna.

Edited June 1, 2014 by tonyhp32

[tonyhp32]

I think the general unease amongst sikhs and moslems in regards to Modi belittles an insecurity about Hinduism. The fear of being dominated. This led to Pakistan and the call for Khalistan. We know the moslem and sikh cannot compete with the Hindu in business, politics, academia, or any other sphere. This is true in India and abroad. The moslem or sikh will never give out statistics or compare himself to Hindus in the above fields because they have no chance.

The last great myth was "1 Pakistani is worth 1000 hindus" or "1 Sikh is worth 38 Hindus" but that is slowly starting to fade as well. The ironic thing is the smashing was done by a bamani, gujju and bihari in the last 30-40 years. Generally, considered by moslems and sikhs as the most effeminate and weakest of the hindus.

I remember in high school a moslem gang with their pakistani leader were harassing, bullying hindus and sikhs until a tough gujju came out of nowhere and smashed their leader. The shock and look on their faces was funny. Soon, they were saying all religions are the same and we should not fight.

The fear is that the hindus have put 2 and 2 together or are close. And we are standing still. The insecurity stems from this fact. But anybody that has read indian history would know it was just a matter of time.

Modi will create a stable government because he has an absolute majority, experience, worldwide contacts and takes no crap. If the work is not done you are out. The governments have already dealt with him for the last 12 years and know him well. Hence, the optimism.

As for "picking fight" he has not except when the moslems burned pilgrims. The Pakistanis are a different story. We know terrorism will not stop so why not return the favour and that is exactly what is going to happen.

In the 90s and 2000s it was Togadia and his VHP, Bajrang Dal that called the shots in Gujarat. They terrorized the moslems. Upon a complaint from moslems Modi effectively put them out of business. You do not hear much from them anymore except on youtube videos. Togadia made the mistake of publicly criticizing Modi for destroying 118 hindu temples. They are not on talking terms.

There is no unease. We know the Hindu fighting ability apart from a few martial races is negligible. The Sikhs matched the Hindus in the pre-partition Punjab. Even their educational levels were better than the Hindus. Had there been no partition and the British rule had continued the Sikhs would have outstripped the Hindus within a few decades. There is very little data on economics by religious group in present day India but where some studies have been done the Sikhs always come second after Parsis. the Hindus are usually just above the Muslims.

The Muslim gang story looks more like a Hindu myth than anything based on reality.

I suppose like that famous cartoon in the early days of the internet where a dog is at a computer keyboard and is saying to another dog "On the internet nobody knows you are a dog", so with you and other people like you who pretend to the Sikhs we can see a puny Hindu saying to another bhaya "On the Internet nobody knows you are a Hindu!". So Hindus can put all sorts of BS about how so and so Hindu did this to a Muslim or Sikh blah blah blah. The reality is always the reverse.

Edited June 1, 2014 by tonyhp32

[Amandeep Hindustani]

There is no unease. We know the Hindu fighting ability apart from a few martial races is negligible. The Sikhs matched the Hindus in the pre-partition Punjab. Even their educational levels were better than the Hindus. Had there been no partition and the British rule had continued the Sikhs would have outstripped the Hindus within a few decades. There is very little data on economics by religious group in present day India but where some studies have been done the Sikhs always come second after Parsis. the Hindus are usually just above the Muslims.

The Muslim gang story looks more like a Hindu myth than anything based on reality.

I suppose like that famous cartoon in the early days of the internet where a dog is at a computer keyboard and is saying to another dog "On the internet nobody knows you are a dog", so with you and other people like you who pretend to the Sikhs we can see a puny Hindu saying to another bhaya "On the Internet nobody knows you are a Hindu!". So Hindus can put all sorts of BS about how so and so Hindu did this to a Muslim or Sikh blah blah blah. The reality is always the reverse.

Your words don't match your neet. As a Sikh you want China and Pakistan to attack India jointly. The reason? You want to weaken the country so you can get Khalistan. Which shows me that you have no faith in yourself or your own community to get it for yourselves. You want others to do the work so you can reap the rewards. Fortunately, most sikhs are not as traitorous as you.

The Khalsa Raaj was great indeed but then again another regional power (maharashtrians) created a much bigger, stronger and longer lasting empire that spanned from South India to Attock. Before that the Guptas, Nandas, Maurayans, Rajputs, Jaats, Cholas and even the Dogras. What makes your 50 years special?

The computer thing is a laugh. It does not even matter anymore. Continue...we have bigger plans. And please send me the youtube video of your "meeting"

Take a gander at the news lately as well. This is not 47. The top everything from the subcontinent are Hindu. The Hindu when given an opportunity at business or education takes it and runs with it. Hence, why the sikhs and moslems hate the bania because they own everything including their (sikhs and moslems) lands and homes.

Hell, even the spelling bees are being dominated by the Hindu LOL

Mr. Obama will be sending Nisha Desai, Assistant Secretary (you guessed it a Hindu) to India in the next week to smooth out relations.

http://www.businessinsider.com/sriram-hathwar-and-ansun-sujoe-win-the-spelling-bee-2014-5

[tonyhp32]

The inability of India to get back areas that it claims are hers was brought in because of your and Sher's mutual masturbation about Modi's abilities at pushing other PMs around. This thread was about Modi and the AAP in Punjab. Yes, I would love it if China tests Modi as I believe that like all so-called hard men he is a coward and being a Gujju and a Hindu to boot that makes that belief virtually 100% likely. Maybe with the Chinese army in Delhi he'll find that his love of serving tea to others will return and he can become a chah wala again to some of the Chinese generals! If China attacks then Pakistan and probably Bangladesh won't be far behind. Pakistan wants Kashmir, China wants Arunachal Pradesh and Bangladesh wants Assam and the NE for their greater Bangladesh scheme. We'll see what the Hindustani soldier is made of in such an eventuality. Hopefully such an attack from three directions will give the Sikh soldiers the incentive to revolt like some did in 1984.

In any war you need allies, in a Sikh war for independence then China would the greatest ally along with Pakistan. What exactly is wrong with that given that you have been going on about Modi's possible alliance with Afghanistan, Japan and Iran. So if the Sikhs alone cannot kick India out of Punjab then isn't that the same as India not being able to defeat the Chinese without it's allies?

[Amandeep Hindustani]

The inability of India to get back areas that it claims are hers was brought in because of your and Sher's mutual masturbation about Modi's abilities at pushing other PMs around. This thread was about Modi and the AAP in Punjab. Yes, I would love it if China tests Modi as I believe that like all so-called hard men he is a coward and being a Gujju and a Hindu to boot that makes that belief virtually 100% likely. Maybe with the Chinese army in Delhi he'll find that his love of serving tea to others will return and he can become a chah wala again to some of the Chinese generals! If China attacks then Pakistan and probably Bangladesh won't be far behind. Pakistan wants Kashmir, China wants Arunachal Pradesh and Bangladesh wants Assam and the NE for their greater Bangladesh scheme. We'll see what the Hindustani soldier is made of in such an eventuality. Hopefully such an attack from three directions will give the Sikh soldiers the incentive to revolt like some did in 1984.

In any war you need allies, in a Sikh war for independence then China would the greatest ally along with Pakistan. What exactly is wrong with that given that you have been going on about Modi's possible alliance with Afghanistan, Japan and Iran. So if the Sikhs alone cannot kick India out of Punjab then isn't that the same as India not being able to defeat the Chinese without it's allies?

Hmm...nice theory. Here is another one since we are talking hypothetically. India is attacked by China, Pakistan and Bangladesh together. India take the opportunity to nuke bangladesh leaving only Pakistan and China. Japan, Israel, Vietnam, Phillipines come to the aid of a friendly india by opening up other fronts. Russia, always suspicious of China, helps India as well. Meanwhile, the Iranians seizing the opportunity take western shia dominated pakistan. The West, led by America side with democratic india rather than the commie, islamist combine. And you get nothing. How does that sound?

Is Pakistan's support going to be like in the 80s when they threw you under the bus because of one threat from Indira Gandhi?

Be thankful that patriotic hindus and sikhs are dying on the borders and fighting the islamist pigs. If these islamist dogs were right on the border with Amritsar you would not even have a chance without the IA. And spare me the "we are lions" retort, please. When fighters from across the world pour into Amristar, armed, ready to destroy everything you will think again.

BTW, I heard that there has been multiple terror attacks in china by the moslems, and the chinese government are in a panic. Looks like the chickens are coming home to roost.

Edited June 2, 2014 by Amandeep Hindustani