ramgharia Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 my question to all my sikh brothers and sisters is that. who is a true sikh one who is not a keshdhari but do nitnem he do naam simran and wake up before amritvela or a keshdhari who fallows some of the rules given by guru ji but don't do naam simran daily and don't get up at amritvela every day 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sat1176 Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) Let WaheGuru be the judge and don't let the opinions of others knock you. If we start applying one set of criteria with a list of traits, then 99.9% will not fall into this category. Always try and better yourself and try and walk more and more the Gurus way. Definitely good videos worth watching and listening to: Edited January 22, 2015 by Sat1176 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSG Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Hi I think the definition of a true sikh is one 1. who keeps their rehat 2. leads a disciplined life according to the teachings of Sikhism and Sri Guru granth sahib ji 3. Who tries to do nitem at amrit vela 4. who tries to do seva 5. who tries to learn sikh stories 6. who tries to be an inspiration to all , a role model 7. who tries to practice the gurus teachings 8. who inspires his /her family to come closer to sikhi by his/her actions 9. who tries to see all as equals 10. who fights for just causes 11. who is honest 12. who does not judge anyone 13. who learns Gurmat sangeet 14. who learns Gurbani and much much more 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramgharia Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Hi I think the definition of a true sikh is one 1. who keeps their rehat 2. leads a disciplined life according to the teachings of Sikhism and Sri Guru granth sahib ji 3. Who tries to do nitem at amrit vela 4. who tries to do seva 5. who tries to learn sikh stories 6. who tries to be an inspiration to all , a role model 7. who tries to practice the gurus teachings 8. who inspires his /her family to come closer to sikhi by his/her actions 9. who tries to see all as equals 10. who fights for just causes 11. who is honest 12. who does not judge anyone 13. who learns Gurmat sangeet 14. who learns Gurbani and much much more right but i am nat a keshdhari but i try my best to be a sikh but many of my friend calledme hindu but i don't follow hinduism my father my grandfather were sikh but my mother and my grandmother are hindu and in my famly there is very much hindu influence but idon't follow these things . so i want to know i am sikh or not and how do i convence my friends that i am a sikh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Sikhs are in both forms Keshdhari and Sehadhari in the physical form ...a true Khalsa Sikh is the one who is keshdhari amritdhari ...what is your purpose ? You want to show that you are not Hindu or that you are Sikh? First of all be clear that Sikhism is not some opposition to Hinduism...if you are Sikh ..its not that because you dont want to be Hindu and you become Sikh...its because you accept the 10 Guru Sahibaan and the Hazraa hazur Dhan Dhan Guru Granth Sahib ji as your Guru . It is because you accept Akaal Purakh Parmeswar as your Supreme Guru and as One and Only God Omnipresent . The physical form you do not have but have you tried to be a Sikh inside ? Bani simran sewa...a combination . So rather than proving what you are ..just try to be one inside ..i know its tough..we are on the same path veera..we have to keep trying so that we atleast step on the right path . right but i am nat a keshdhari but i try my best to be a sikh but many of my friend calledme hindu but i don't follow hinduism my father my grandfather were sikh but my mother and my grandmother are hindu and in my famly there is very much hindu influence but idon't follow these things . so i want to know i am sikh or not and how do i convence my friends that i am a sikh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sat1176 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Very sad to read that on one side we try to rise above the labels of castes but then other sub categories of Sikhs have been created. If that's not bad enough, others are quick to remark on who is a Sikh and who is not. Guru Nanak said : "There is neither Hindu nor Mussulman (Muslim) so whose path shall I follow? I shall follow God's path. God is neither Hindu nor Mussulman and the path which I follow is God's." Very deep message in this. Edited January 22, 2015 by Sat1176 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sat1176 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 I recall vividly that Bhai Chattar Singh explained in one of his kathas the term Shejdhari as being someone one who comes from another faith but also believes in the Guru ghar. I will see if I can dig the recording out. Example he gave was Sain Mian Mir. Yes the common definition for a Shejdhari is someone who is not Amritdhari. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DSG Posted January 22, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Ramgarhia , you dont have to prove anything to your friends , if sikhism inspires you , makes you a better person , you want to learn more from within , then carry on learning when your time comes waherguru will do kirpa on you and make you a true gursikh of Guru Gobind Singh Ji , but dont stop seek guidance from someone who is on the path already, seek guidance from the Guru ( sri guru granth sahib ji ) .. If your mates say your a hindu , then so what , if your mates say your a sikh again then so what ....as jaikaarra mentions its inside you , if you know the truth , that what matters most , its from your actions people will realise the truth . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Absolutely and i am a Sehajdhari ..i am first generation Sehajdhari ..hope that i become a sampooran Singh tyar bar tyaar ..if you have interacted with families from around Himachal , Jammu and from the Punjab that is now in Pakistan ..that is the eastern side i believe there are many families who have marriages with Sikh customs and follow only the Gurughar..they have been sehajdhari since generations. There were Sehajdharis in the Gurus time too.I came across this post on SPN http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/6231-sehajdhari-khalsa-print.html Nearly 3 years after Baisakhi of 1699 Guru ji wrote letters (hukamnamas to some sahejdhari Sikhs - non amritdhari) on 6 February 1702 signed (characteristic authentic Nissan of tenth Guruji) by Guruji. The following is the text of one of these written to Sikhs presumably in Patna as the letter is preserved there. "Ek Oankar Satguru ji. Siri Guru ji di agaya hai Bhai Mihar Chand Karam Chand, Guru rakhega. Guru japna janam saurega. Tusi mera Khalsa ho. Ik sau ik 101) rupiah haathi di phurmais hukam dekhde he sitabee hundee karai bhejni. Ar hor jo kichh Guru ke namit ka hovai so apai lai avna. Hathiar banh ke avgu so nihal hogu. Us di ghaal thai pavagu Guru naal rahgu. Guru ke navit ka hovai so horus kise no nahee dena ar masand, masandiay naal naahee milna, nahee mannanna, Jo sikh mile so mail laina. Vadheek dikkat naahee karni. Mera hukam hai sangat. Sammat 1758 miti Fago 10, satran Ath 8." This is its translation. Ek Oankar Satguru ji. This is the command of Siri Guru ji (for) Bhai Mihar Chand and Karam Chand Guru shall protect you. Remember and recite Guru your life shall become worthwhile. YOU ARE MY KHALSA. Your name has been proposed for arranging 101 Rupees for (procuring) an elephant. On seeing this command immediately send a draft, and anything else offered in the name of the Guru, you should bring with you. Those of you who will come adorning weapons shall be blessed, their efforts shall bear fruit and their loyalty to Guru shall be upheld. Anything offered in the name of Guru is not to be handed over to anyone else. And you should not socialise with a Masand or a Masand follower nor honour them. Any sikh who intends to join (sangat) should be admitted, you should not create too much hinderance. This is my command to the Sangat. Sammat(the Indian Bikrami calendar) 1758 Date Fago(Faggan the last month of the Indian year) 10 (Western calendar 6 February 1702) Lines eight 8. I recall vividly that Bhai Chattar Singh explained in one of his kathas the term Shejdhari as being someone one who comes from another faith but also believes in the Guru ghar. I will see if I can dig the recording out. Example he gave was Sain Mian Mir. Yes the common definition for a Shejdhari is someone who is not Amritdhari. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSG Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Just been looking and some of the videos on basics of sikhi and came across the following, Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji Maharaj said to his sikhs Rehinee rehai soee sikh maeraa ouh sahib mai ous ka chaeraa The one who remains in discipline is a sikh of mine. He becomes the master and i'll be the servant. How beautiful is this .. see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9qmEqZqBVk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harsharan000 Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 my question to all my sikh brothers and sisters is that. who is a true sikh one who is not a keshdhari but do nitnem he do naam simran and wake up before amritvela or a keshdhari who fallows some of the rules given by guru ji but don't do naam simran daily and don't get up at amritvela every day Dear Ramgarhia, frankly speaking, either is one on the shore, or either is one in the Ocean. So now, what is shore and Ocean? Shore means, creation, and Ocean represents the infinite Wahiguru Akal Purukh. As long as we are not one with Him, we are all sikhs without any distinctions. And I say this, not referring to the typical frame understanding of this particular word. So who or what is a sikh also? Sikh basically means, a seeker. And as long as we have not merged and become one with Him, we are all seekers, independant of our caste, color or nationality... Because the sikh is our soul, which goes beyond the barrier death, while our bodies, our outer coverings, just turn into a handful of dust...that is truth of the bodily coverings... So, whether voluntarily by His Simran, of forcefully with the death, we leave back the bodies here and enter into the spiritual realms, we continue towards our destiny, with the aid of the Shabad Guru, that is Wahiguru in motion. Then as the Bani says, the light of that sikh, disciple, soul, blends with the Light of Shabd Guru into the formless Akhand Jot of Wahiguru Akal Purukh. Being moral and righteous in word speech and deed, is essential for our spiritual progress. Just as thirst is not related to any being of a particular place or time, so is humility and morality needed, for whomsoever wants to walk on the path of ruhaniyat, of course, and above all with the support of His Name. Sat Sree Akal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 From Absolute point of view there are no labels, its one non dual reality- all in one, one in all HERE AND NOW. I find rest in that solace in that primordial peace in that so these real relative terms don't exist in that absolute pristine pure perception. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh123456777 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 From Absolute point of view there are no labels, its one non dual reality- all in one, one in all HERE AND NOW. I find rest in that solace in that primordial peace in that so these real relative terms don't exist in that absolute pristine pure perception.And if you listen very hard The tune will come to you at last. When all are one and one is all To be a rock and not to roll. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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