Popular Post das Posted February 16, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 I was trying to find out the Spiritual material (with photos, cartoons etc) in order to teach my growing kids some basic things: Love, Sharing etc...... but was unsatisfied in regards to the unavailability of this kind of material in Sikhism. Our parcharaks are doing nothing in this regard. We ourselves are also hopeless, we waste so much time in arguring about what we think is right interpretation of a religious concept. I feel that we're The assholes, good for nothing......anyways, but I was happy to find that there are lot of educational material in Buddhism (created by educated and level minded people). So, just want to share if anyone is interested: http://www.buddhanet.net/ebooks_childrens.htm We should also create some material NOT to show how we survived in history and sacrifices....but also the concepts of a beautiful Sikhism. Sometimes, I feel that I'm in the wrong place where everyone is after the money race (be it because of family or for oneself), but then realize that I'm also part of this world and if I want to come out, then do the hard work and the Grace will follow. But you know sala maan kurta ha! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, das said: I was trying to find out the Spiritual material (with photos, cartoons etc) in order to teach my growing kids some basic things: Love, Sharing etc...... but was unsatisfied in regards to the unavailability of this kind of material in Sikhism. Try the link below brother. http://www.sikhnet.com/stories Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted February 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 thanks paapiman........the link you provided is excellent; there should be more like these from traditional sect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BhagatSingh Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Das do you bhagti? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted February 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 45 minutes ago, BhagatSingh said: Das do you bhagti? I guess not in the real sense, basically betraying myself. I was devoting more time (even though not quality, but at-least quantity was there) when I was in college 20 years back but now it's a mess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BhagatSingh Posted February 16, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 49 minutes ago, das said: I guess not in the real sense, basically betraying myself. I was devoting more time (even though not quality, but at-least quantity was there) when I was in college 20 years back but now it's a mess. Well that's the most important thing. This is more important than "external material for kids" or parcharaks. You are the father! You need to be the role model, do the bhagti yourself and spend time with them, and project your spiritual energy and awareness out and into them. I'll give two examples, one of my dad and one of myself. 1. My dad did a lot of bhagti and he taught it to me. He would sit down and teach me how to meditate, how to read a gutka, how to do pooja, how to visit the gurudwara, and so on. And he did it himself all the time. Having that kind of presence had a huge effect on me, and it is the most important for a child. Its set the base for even when the child goes off-track, like I did. The father teaches the child how to be virtuous. 2. Now for the second example. While I was staying in India with my sister, I was meditating as much as possible. One day I was playing with my 2yr old nephew and we went to the gurudwara right after. So he wants to sit with mamaji, I began quietly meditating with him sitting in my lap the whole time. Some time passed after we returned, and he started playing. In his playing, he began to say the mantra that I was meditating on, all to my surprise. This mantra was known only to me, no one else. What you do now will energetically effect your children later. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koi Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Maybe look to the diary and aatmik bachan of Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji maharaj Rara Sahib Wale 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragmaala Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 10 hours ago, BhagatSingh said: 2. Now for the second example. While I was staying in India with my sister, I was meditating as much as possible. One day I was playing with my 2yr old nephew and we went to the gurudwara right after. So he wants to sit with mamaji, I began quietly meditating with him sitting in my lap the whole time. Some time passed after we returned, and he started playing. In his playing, he began to say the mantra that I was meditating on, all to my surprise. This mantra was known only to me, no one else. wow thats amazing. Was it a common mantra that he could also have heard from someone ? or was it your own unique mantra that he might not have heard from others ? ( This detail might be important to remove any confounding factors in your experimental observation. btw I do not wish to know your mantra, that is your personal matter). But that is amazing. How kids can pick up spiritual frequencies so fast ? No wonder they are called rabb da roop The first two years of my life were spent with my Naani, who was great Nitnemi & did Amritvela of 3 am through her whole life, even through extreme sickness. My mom tells me that Naani would take me in her lap and do path. She was also very sensitive to emotions. I sometimes wonder that maybe whatever love for Sikhi I claim to have , and my sensitive nature might be her giving. Yes I blame her for making me too sensitive to emotions sometimes, which I have learnt to control a lot btw. lol. @BhagatSingh This is the greatest gift a father or a mother can give to their Child, a long time Spiritual fruit & blessing through actually practising it, and actually passing on the spiritual vibrations. Your story is very pleasant to hear, thanks for sharing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post samurai Posted February 16, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 16 hours ago, BhagatSingh said: Well that's the most important thing. This is more important than "external material for kids" or parcharaks. You are the father! You need to be the role model, do the bhagti yourself and spend time with them, and project your spiritual energy and awareness out and into them. I agree. Children are so receptive to energy, and the energy in the household in general is very important in molding kids to be spiritually inclined. Ive noticed with my niece, she actually enjoys doing things like sitting with me when im doing paath, and she is more focused then me at times.. She is also quick to grab my tally counter and do her vaheguru jaap..lol. I feel children in general are already spiritual at a young age, they just loose it when their focus goes on tv and now ipads..lol When the child is in the womb she/he remembers everything and is in 'connection' with nirankar, the older one gets the more difficult it becomes to guide them in terms of your input as connection becomes weaker. @das.. Even if your pehra is not so strong as back in the day, just by playing gurbani in the house continuously changes the aura/energy in the house and this energy of gurbani is what your kids will be accustomed to. So growing up they will want to be connected to this energy as they are familiar to it. I remember my mum and nani would always tell me to do certain path when i was younger but i was more interested in going out with my mates, now i do exactly what they were telling me to do back in the day..lol. so i guess try your best and leave it up to maharaj...Good luck. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 People are always blaming pracharaks. Even for the education of their own children??? Give them a break! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GurpreetKaur Posted February 17, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 They say Birth to seven years age, a child is running under the subconscious part of her or his mind. So I would say fill it up with good stuff. The other thing I read was that if a father goes to Church or temple there are higher chances that children will follow him. Mothers are great teachers but dad can have a huge impact too. I spent first year of my life with my biji( nani ji) she's a religious lady and I think it was those few months that at the age of 19, my interest in spirituality and religion woke up, since there is no spiritual bone in my dad's side family. Don't depend on parcharak to teach your kids the Value of being loving, kind, caring. You got this, we have faith in you . I read bhagat pooran singh ji's jeevani and watch how his mother taught him. One example was she told him to find stones from street and put it away so nobody gets hurt. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurpreetKaur Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 8 hours ago, Ragmaala said: wow thats amazing. Was it a common mantra that he could also have heard from someone ? or was it your own unique mantra that he might not have heard from others ? ( This detail might be important to remove any confounding factors in your experimental observation. btw I do not wish to know your mantra, that is your personal matter). But that is amazing. How kids can pick up spiritual frequencies so fast ? No wonder they are called rabb da roop The first two years of my life were spent with my Naani, who was great Nitnemi & did Amritvela of 3 am through her whole life, even through extreme sickness. My mom tells me that Naani would take me in her lap and do path. She was also very sensitive to emotions. I sometimes wonder that maybe whatever love for Sikhi I claim to have , and my sensitive nature might be her giving. Yes I blame her for making me too sensitive to emotions sometimes, which I have learnt to control a lot btw. lol. @BhagatSingh This is the greatest gift a father or a mother can give to their Child, a long time Spiritual fruit & blessing through actually practising it, and actually passing on the spiritual vibrations. Your story is very pleasant to hear, thanks for sharing. Mantra is I am a big kid now, I am big kid now. Why do you think I call @Singh123456777 Bapu ji now instead of putt. He used the mantra and now is a big kid lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh123456777 Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 35 minutes ago, GurpreetKaur said: Mantra is I am a big kid now, I am big kid now. Why do you think I call @Singh123456777 Bapu ji now instead of putt. He used the mantra and now is a big kid lol. Lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BhagatSingh Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 10 hours ago, Ragmaala said: wow thats amazing. Was it a common mantra that he could also have heard from someone ? or was it your own unique mantra that he might not have heard from others ? ( This detail might be important to remove any confounding factors in your experimental observation. btw I do not wish to know your mantra, that is your personal matter).@BhagatSingh This is the greatest gift a father or a mother can give to their Child, a long time Spiritual fruit & blessing through actually practising it, and actually passing on the spiritual vibrations. Your story is very pleasant to hear, thanks for sharing. He could have heard it from someone, maybe on tv. But not from anyone in the household. When he said it, my sister was surprised. She asked him where he heard it from. He said grandma taught it to him. I asked grandma and she said she had never taught him that. Let's say he had already heard it - I stayed with him for 3 months. It was just on that one night that I heard him say it and the next morning, he was playing with it, twisting the sounds and words, as kids do. Quote But that is amazing. How kids can pick up spiritual frequencies so fast ? No wonder they are called rabb da roop Not just kids but also adults, animals, trees, plants.... even tin foils. We are connected in a much stronger way than we think. Quote The first two years of my life were spent with my Naani, who was great Nitnemi & did Amritvela of 3 am through her whole life, even through extreme sickness. My mom tells me that Naani would take me in her lap and do path. She was also very sensitive to emotions. I sometimes wonder that maybe whatever love for Sikhi I claim to have , and my sensitive nature might be her giving. Yes I blame her for making me too sensitive to emotions sometimes, which I have learnt to control a lot btw. lol. Haha. Maybe. being sensitive helps on the bhagti marg. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted February 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 On 2/16/2016 at 10:54 PM, BhagatSingh said: Well that's the most important thing. This is more important than "external material for kids" or parcharaks. You are the father! You need to be the role model, do the bhagti yourself and spend time with them, and project your spiritual energy and awareness out and into them. Thanks BhagatSingh and everyone else. Yes, I know that's the area I'm lacking. Thanks for reminding me. God bless you and your family. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 On 2/16/2016 at 7:19 PM, das said: I was trying to find out the Spiritual material (with photos, cartoons etc) in order to teach my growing kids some basic things: Love, Sharing etc...... Das jee - Try the below channel too. https://www.youtube.com/user/RajshriKids Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 maybe the child heard you whistpering the mantra under your breath, since he was sitting in your lap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 how about it you buy the children each a small mala and ask them to say japa before bed also talk to them about God and His qualities. that He is always with them in their hearts. so to always be brave. another must is the 'golden rule', don't be nasty to anyone, even if they are nasty to you. also to be honest, not to tell lies or deceive. stay away from bad company. not to use bad language. not to be influenced by other kids at school or crap on tv. tell them come and talk to you if they have questions etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Das ji I have seen those kinds of books (moral instruction) in Panjabi, but they tend to be secular stories- old Panjabi parables, fables with talkng animals, stories about princes and paupers etc, with moral lessons. These books are used when children are learning to read Panjabi. I saw one in English, about Guru Nanak's childhood, recently here in England. It seemed quite nice. Thought that might help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 again to Das I just looked at the link you gave. That book very much reminded me of the 'Amar Chitra Katha' produced in India. My friend was an avid collector of them. They are not produced by Sikhs obviously, but I think they have an issue about Guru Nanak Dev ji (although I havent checked it out). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted February 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 First of all, thanks everyone for your valued options/suggestions/recommendations/links. I really appreciate it. I just want to clarify certain things as follows: In our family we do path regularly and the children also do the same. We also tell them good qualities, Spiritual principles, how-to-differentiate between good-vs-bad. This part is being done to the extent we are capable off. But the real issue is that kids do spend most of their time in school, TV, Cartons etc......even though we've limited the screen time, but you know they always think about the things from which they have been warned (basic nature of humans). So, we cannot just NO to TV, cartoons, school; I tried that but that increases the real issue........Monkey Mind. So, the next best option is to teach them in a way they can understand via the interactive sessions with books, Tv, cartoons. But eventually, all this doesn't matter because at the end of the day, children do subconsciously follow their habits (from previous birth's karma).......sometimes good seed does germinate quickly if proper environment (including parents) are provided and sometimes not. Souls chose the parents before the birth (if given a chance) so that it's more easier for them to progress based upon their current quota of karma. So, the bottom line is: it is all about the karma but we can't just ignore our responsibilities (even though they are also part of the game).......free-will is also an illusion. Free-will is a delusion as long as one is a slave to the ego's fears and desires. It can be exercised only when one is aware and unattached to desires, and the dualities of life, and has no ego. By cultivating non-attachment one sees beyond liking and disliking, success and failure, loss and gain, pleasure and pain, to the Truth of things. There are very rare who actually does have really free-will (or say no-will or say the will of God); we all are just dancing to the tune of Maya. There is only one way to out: Grace.........even Grace is of 4 types: Grace-Of-God: We already have that as we've the chance (human-body); Grace-of-Scriptures: it is also there; Grace-of-Guru: it comes when the seeker has made the maximum effort and have exhausted; Grace-of-One-self: It is the grace that we have to do on ourselves (as BhagatSIngh as mentioned)....it is having the will to undertake a purposeful journey in life, to do the spiritual work of life, and to prepare oneself. Now, see how these days I've become a Fake Brahmin/Sant/Scholar..........who has learnt the techniques but saala apne te experiment nahi karda. I should remember that: A tiny bit of knowledge is required for Salvation (i.e I'm separated and I'm that).................but there is no point to attain all kinds of knowledge because all knowledge is incomplete without HIM. pata nahi ke likh reha haan, chalo dil to pagal hai! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BhagatSingh Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Guest guest said: maybe the child heard you whistpering the mantra under your breath, since he was sitting in your lap. I wasn't whispering it. I think it's more likely that he had heard it previously and something resonated with him when I was meditating on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragmaala Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 1 hour ago, das said: Grace is of 4 types: Grace-Of-God: We already have that as we've the chance (human-body); Grace-of-Scriptures: it is also there; Grace-of-Guru: it comes when the seeker has made the maximum effort and have exhausted; Grace-of-One-self: It is the grace that we have to do on ourselves (as BhagatSIngh as mentioned)....it is having the will to undertake a purposeful journey in life, to do the spiritual work of life, and to prepare oneself. so true. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurpreetKaur Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 2 hours ago, das said: , chalo dil to pagal hai! Don't ever let the kids watch this song. Lol Make them watch this, I watched 3 years ago and time to watch it again. Lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 2 hours ago, das said: Now, see how these days I've become a Brahmin..........who has learnt the techniques but saala apne te experiment nahi karda. thats a pretty nasty and unnecessary comment (and no i'm not a brahmin). legit brahmins do a lot of meticulous and hard work- have you ever seen how much thought and learning goes into a puja, havan etc what is the point of doing nindya of other people and their dharams? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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