Is too much exercise killing you?

[Premi]

A book I've read

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Get-Up-Chair-Killing-About-ebook/dp/B00JTIRUUW

[GurjantGnostic]

4 hours ago, Premi said:

A book I've read

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Get-Up-Chair-Killing-About-ebook/dp/B00JTIRUUW

Amen bro. I don't sit much and when I do it's on the ground. Even at work you catch me on the floor. In between packs, at lunch on break, on the floor. 

[dalsingh101]

22 hours ago, Premi said:

A book I've read

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Get-Up-Chair-Killing-About-ebook/dp/B00JTIRUUW

What did you learn from the book? 

[GurjantGnostic]

10 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

What did you learn from the book? 

I think the main takeaway is get up. Yep. 

I dont know what the book says but do as much standing as you can, alternate sitting and standing different heights, continously release your head, neck everything to Vaheguru Ji, take eye breaks, sit at the very very front or the very very back of the chair, or totally laid back but never any of the middle seated positions where the pelvis is titled forward and the shoulders hunch. Even if the work is in front of you, keep awareness of the whole room, look around to continually lubricate the neck. Keep the chest opened up and forward. Move the neck side to side and in circles, especially up and down like nodding. Do wrist stretches. 

I too would especially like @Premi actual takeaway from the book. 

[Premi]

On 11/15/2021 at 3:32 PM, dalsingh101 said:

What did you learn from the book? 

 

On 11/16/2021 at 1:35 AM, GurjantGnostic said:

I think the main takeaway is get up. Yep. 

I dont know what the book says but do as much standing as you can, alternate sitting and standing different heights, continously release your head, neck everything to Vaheguru Ji, take eye breaks, sit at the very very front or the very very back of the chair, or totally laid back but never any of the middle seated positions where the pelvis is titled forward and the shoulders hunch. Even if the work is in front of you, keep awareness of the whole room, look around to continually lubricate the neck. Keep the chest opened up and forward. Move the neck side to side and in circles, especially up and down like nodding. Do wrist stretches. 

I too would especially like @Premi actual takeaway from the book. 

 

I read it 2-3 years ago so cannot remember mcuh

But, I remember that humans not really supposed to be seated much of the time (but this has become common in office jobs). That even doing a little walking intermittently throughout the day in office jobs is helpful to health and reducing cardiovascular risk

Otherwise, I would suggest getting book from Library rather than buying

[GurjantGnostic]

1 hour ago, Premi said:

Otherwise, I would suggest getting book from Library rather than buying

Copy that. 

[dalsingh101]

Nice tip here.

If you do train regularly or even have been doing physical graft as your career for a while, and a few issues have come up, go see a registered osteopath. 

I went yesterday for the first time, and just that one session has me feeling real good.   

I think osteopaths are better than physiotherapists. But they are expensive. 

[dalsingh101]

DR ELLIE CANNON: Could I be at risk of a heart attack by exercising too much?

 

 

I am 64, consider myself very fit and am a healthy weight. I go to the gym three times a week and like to push myself to get my heart rate up. 

Recently I've read about people my age having a heart attack during vigorous exercise. Am I doing too much?

It is common for people to think their body isn't able to withstand brisk exercise as they get older. But it's not strictly true.

The risks from high-intensity exercise depend more on your baseline level of fitness than on your age. If you have no medical conditions or problems and are used to a high level of intense activity, continuing at the same pace is perfectly reasonable.

There are no tests or indicators that guarantee you won't fall ill while you're exercising, but in perfectly healthy people who have been exercising their whole lives, it is unlikely.

 

 

Some exercise is crucial as we age. NHS guidelines recommend that adults of 65 who are already active do at least one hour 15 minutes of vigorous-intensity activity every week, or at least 2½ hours of moderate-intensity activity.

Vigorous intensity means activity that makes you breathe faster and harder, such as running, fast cycling or playing tennis. Moderate exercise would be riding a bike, walking or water aerobics.

Your GP surgery can offer a risk score indicating how likely you are to have a heart attack or stroke. The assessment takes into account many factors such as weight, blood pressure and family history, along with your cholesterol and blood sugar.

GPs also offer screening for atrial fibrillation, in which the heart beats irregularly. Sufferers have a higher risk of stroke and heart attack and may find strenuous exercise makes their heart race, leaving them feeling faint. People with atrial fibrillation can still exercise but might need to take longer warming up and cooling down.

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10360717/DR-ELLIE-CANNON-risk-heart-attack-exercising-much.html

[Premi]

On 11/12/2021 at 8:01 PM, paapiman said:

Maybe even worse. Daas knows of a guy, who was into heavy weight lifting and now he is dead. It started off as upper back pain and then just got worse and worse (affecting other areas of the body too). None of the doctors and tests could figure out what was exactly wrong with him. 

You know of any cases like that?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Did they find out at post-mortem ?

On 11/12/2021 at 8:38 PM, GurjantGnostic said:

There's a critical nerve cluster there that effects everything.  

You can easily mess yourself up lifting big.  

Even if you get big successfully the heart attack gets you. 

Which nerve cluster ? 

[paapiman]

9 hours ago, Premi said:

Did they find out at post-mortem ?

The Post-Mortem also did not reveal the cause of pain.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[GurjantGnostic]

On 1/3/2022 at 8:08 AM, Premi said:

Did they find out at post-mortem ?

Which nerve cluster ? 

Well to be more specific it's more that pain and dysfunction from the cranium and optic nerve, combined with neck tension, being finished off with tension in the mid-thoracic cause the shoulders to roll forward, and your brachial nexus is then impeded. Breathing all but stops and becomes shallow, increased dysfunction and carpal tunnel, and increased chance of further injuring the upper back. Super easy to increase tension, cause numbness, and injure muscles lifting and working out wrong. 

The brachial cluster isn't in that part of the back exactly, the intercostal nerves are, but it's the impeding of that super cricitcal cluster than can mess up everything else. 

[GurjantGnostic]

Another way to approach this is by Chakra.

Release the front, to release the back. So work the third eye, including hidden counterpoint in the optic nerve. 

Release the heart chakra and open up it's hidden back side, and let the love flow through the brachial cluster and breathing. 

If the chakras get jammed they mess each other up, pull on each other. 

Probably harder to focus on Dasam Duar with an optic nerve headache, and sore back that won't let you breath right. 

[GurjantGnostic]

Lifting proper can be the solution to all this too. Most people just don't balance out their movements, do it with strain, and don't do compound movements or meditate while doing it. Weight lifting done right is range of motion, range of massage...just with uhh...some weight. Most people's fear and ego is involved in weights and gyms so they pack on too much too quick and just begin a series of dysfunctional stressed out practices.  You don't have to stress out just because you pick up something. Release into it instead of clutch it to you and let the weight do the work itself. Shoot. 

Think tai chi vibes just with weights so you become the super strong tai chi dude. 

Those indian clubs and associated exercises are actually a step ahead of western lifting. 

Even if you want to get more froggy with it, go heavier, that should be because your form is great and adding weight is just going to let you feel more pumped. 

[Premi]

Anyone else think that female are more 'at risk' from 'too much exercise' ?

It seems it can cause them more health problems than men. 

[GurjantGnostic]

5 hours ago, Premi said:

Anyone else think that female are more 'at risk' from 'too much exercise' ?

It seems it can cause them more health problems than men. 

A lot of that is early age programming, leading to a weak lifestyle. Example. Girl pushups are forced on females at a young age. Young girls are actually more physically advanced than the boys until 13 or so. So really dudes should be doing the girl pushups, or everybody should or nobody should. But then to maintain their vanity women work out later in life and they simply don't have the bone density, the tendon strength to do it injury free for a while. 

My mom was rasied hard working, in the woods. She could do one arm pushups at 55, and did 55 pushups at 55. 

[paapiman]

On 1/5/2022 at 8:40 PM, GurjantGnostic said:

She could do one arm pushups at 55, and did 55 pushups at 55. 

Amazing. Daas can't even do 15 with two arms...lol.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[dalsingh101]

I think if you start suddenly pushing older people into training it can mess them up. I noticed that Carrie Fisher (Princess Leia) and Bob Odenkirk (Better call Saul) both had health issues after being cast in movies that required them to suddenly train hard for them. 

[Premi]

38 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

I think if you start suddenly pushing older people into training it can mess them up. I noticed that Carrie Fisher (Princess Leia) and Bob Odenkirk (Better call Saul) both had health issues after being cast in movies that required them to suddenly train hard for them. 

Don't know either, but maybe there was some extreme dieting and steroid use which can also have negative effects ?

[Premi]

On 1/2/2022 at 12:51 AM, dalsingh101 said:

DR ELLIE CANNON: Could I be at risk of a heart attack by exercising too much?

 

 

I am 64, consider myself very fit and am a healthy weight. I go to the gym three times a week and like to push myself to get my heart rate up. 

Recently I've read about people my age having a heart attack during vigorous exercise. Am I doing too much?

It is common for people to think their body isn't able to withstand brisk exercise as they get older. But it's not strictly true.

The risks from high-intensity exercise depend more on your baseline level of fitness than on your age. If you have no medical conditions or problems and are used to a high level of intense activity, continuing at the same pace is perfectly reasonable.

There are no tests or indicators that guarantee you won't fall ill while you're exercising, but in perfectly healthy people who have been exercising their whole lives, it is unlikely.

 

 

GPs also offer screening for atrial fibrillation, in which the heart beats irregularly. Sufferers have a higher risk of stroke and heart attack and may find strenuous exercise makes their heart race, leaving them feeling faint. People with atrial fibrillation can still exercise but might need to take longer warming up and cooling down.

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10360717/DR-ELLIE-CANNON-risk-heart-attack-exercising-much.html

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