Racially-aggravated attack on Asian woman and her friend taking Tube home after night out that left victims with broken leg and head injury

[Premi]

How does someone's leg get broken in an attack?!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10397761/Trio-hunted-racially-aggravated-attack-two-women-20s.html

Trio are hunted after racially-aggravated attack on Asian woman and her friend taking Tube home after night out that left victims with broken leg and head injury

• Police wish to speak to three people filmed on CCTV after an assault in Wembley 
• Two victims were approached after a night out and brutally attacked in the street
• One woman had surgery for a broken leg, while another had stitches in her head
• One of the victims is of Pakistani origin and was subjected to racist comments

By STEWART CARR FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 09:59, 13 January 2022 | UPDATED: 12:48, 13 January 2022

 

 

Police wish to speak to three people caught on CCTV after two women were attacked in Wembley after a night out.

The incident in the early hours of Sunday, October 24, has been described as racially aggravated by police.

The victims, two women in their 20s, were heading home after a night out when they were approached in the street by two women and a man in Montrose Crescent, close to Wembley Central Station. 

 

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Police wish to speak to two women (pictured) and a man who they believe can help with their enquiries

 

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Police also wish to speak with this man regarding the attack on the two victims, 

One of the women asked the victims for a cigarette. 

When the victims declined, saying they didn’t have any cigarettes, a physical assault took place during which one of the victims sustained a broken leg, which required surgery. 

The second victim suffered a head injury that required stitches.

One of the victims is of Pakistani origin and was the subject of offensive comments made during the assault.

[ਰੂਪ ਢਿੱਲੋਂ]

this is getting worse and worse ...the images suggest not all racists are white... a naïve assumption anyhow

[dalsingh101]

1 hour ago, ਰੂਪ ਢਿੱਲੋਂ said:

this is getting worse and worse ...the images suggest not all racists are white... a naïve assumption anyhow

I think you might be old enough to remember Roop. In the 70s/80s attacks on 'asians' became so normalised that even some west indians would do them. 

[dalsingh101]

2 hours ago, Premi said:

How does someone's leg get broken in an attack?!

They get hit on the leg hard enough for the bone to break. 

[paapiman]

57 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

I think you might be old enough to remember Roop. In the 70s/80s attacks on 'asians' became so normalised that even some west indians would do them. 

They called them Black Skinheads right?

Was there any element of religion involved in these terrorist attacks? Most West Indians must have been Christians (same as the White people), while the Brown Asians were mostly non-Christians.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[Premi]

36 minutes ago, paapiman said:

They called them Black Skinheads right?

Was there any element of religion involved in these terrorist attacks? Most West Indians must have been Christians (same as the White people), while the Brown Asians were mostly non-Christians.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Hardly anyone in the UK thinks about religion. 

Those who are in any way 'religious' Christians, generally would not be involved in this type of thing in my experience

[paapiman]

24 minutes ago, Premi said:

Hardly anyone in the UK thinks about religion. 

Those who are in any way 'religious' Christians, generally would not be involved in this type of thing in my experience

Bro, Daas is talking about olden times (70's and 80's). Christianity was relatively bigger at that time in the Western world.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[ਰੂਪ ਢਿੱਲੋਂ]

2 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

I think you might be old enough to remember Roop. In the 70s/80s attacks on 'asians' became so normalised that even some west indians would do them. 

In those days Black people were Skinheads as well

[GurjantGnostic]

10 hours ago, ਰੂਪ ਢਿੱਲੋਂ said:

In those days Black people were Skinheads as well

Not to go too far off on a tangent, but the origins of skinhead were racial confluence between jamaicans and mainly irish dock workers. Leading to big band raggae ska etc.  Like so many things that somehow gets co-opted and turned into the opposite. Not a coincidence if you ask me. 

The skinhead world becomes very diverse and segmented quickly. To now include all various forms of violent skins, sharps and anti racist skins, and trads who never changed. Unfortunately the supremacist element has subsumed the entire movement. 

[GurjantGnostic]

11 hours ago, Premi said:

Hardly anyone in the UK thinks about religion. 

Those who are in any way 'religious' Christians, generally would not be involved in this type of thing in my experience

Usa history was a genocide and slavery perpetrated by christians. I agree a real Christian would never. However they are a...miniscule minority in christianity. And their organizations are full up with people content to do anything and just tell themself I'm okay. I'm with white Jesus. I'm getting into heaven. If they even ponder on that fallacy. Some balls to wall satanists all up in that. 

John Brown, as a proud white supremacist minister said it was beneath them. And they killed his whole family. 

So. I mean. I think unicorns are real in some part of the multiverse. But how is John Brown...the voice of reason in christendom? Leaving me to think that finding real christians and unicorns have a lot in common. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_(abolitionist)

And while this does not mention it. Things I have read indicates he wasn't that liberal minded on race. 

 

[GurjantGnostic]

15 hours ago, ਰੂਪ ਢਿੱਲੋਂ said:

this is getting worse and worse ...the images suggest not all racists are white... a naïve assumption anyhow

Inflamed. 

[GurjantGnostic]

@Premi 

As for the injury. Without weapons like a baton, the victim either falls breaking the leg in the chaos, or more common it means they got stomped. 

While I have a great deal of sympathies with black people all over this planet, and believe that our loyalties go back a long time, all of us speaking here, we can make no mistake that they are very very damaged, that they are very colonialized, very imperialized, very marginalized, and capable of a lot of ignorance themselves. 

And while skin does give us some indication who one's ancestors are, it is no indication as to what lies beneath. For you never know, given the opportunity whether they will choose to side within themselves genetically, with the rapist oppressor or with the native person struggling for self-determination for all people. 

Sure sociologist and psychologists could explain why a marginalized group of people, given the opportunity, will turn on the only people placed lower in the social ladder than they are at the time.  It does not excuse it and it does not mean that any of us can fall victim to it we must be prepared to defend ourselves.

Now there's also a difference between a crime motivated purely by hate and one that could say be a robbery which features a racial slur. 

[GurjantGnostic]

More on the injury, I could show you how to kick or step through someone's leg it's very doable. I have a move where I use the side of the knee as my launching point for a roll for example. A collapse the leg and get away combo. Like you just parkor run off the attacker and keep going lol. 

That's for serious business though. Weapons. Attack on your life, freedom. We don't normally rip people's acl, mcl all that just cause. 

We don't kick, trip, reap or tie our legs up much though. It's a bad habit on the battle field. 

One of the reasons the fake scenario the MMA presents is such garbage bro. I mean if you want to give yourself roid rage and then try and wrestle five dudes at the bar and get stabbed do MMA. 

Both Sumo and boxing are far superior as Sports. Thai kickboxing is beautiful in it's simplicity. And they're all done from a standing position or at least having center and your footing. It only takes a little bit of grappling experience, which you don't even need to get from a pure grappling art, which a lot of arts actually cover but they only covered a little bit, because you have to know just enough to not go down to the ground, and if you go down to the ground you have to know to get right back up or you're dead dude.

[ਰੂਪ ਢਿੱਲੋਂ]

14 hours ago, paapiman said:

They called them Black Skinheads right?

Was there any element of religion involved in these terrorist attacks? Most West Indians must have been Christians (same as the White people), while the Brown Asians were mostly non-Christians.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

no Skin head movement was more related to music, appropriation of West Indian Culture SKA music etc then got kidnapped by white nationalism. ( NF). Nowadays I think anyone who is brown equals muslim terrorist in the eyes of all these groups in the west. racism is not exclusive to white people. They can even be victims of it. So this was a blunt racist attack on brown people

[ਰੂਪ ਢਿੱਲੋਂ]

2 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

@Premi 

As for the injury. Without weapons like a baton, the victim either falls breaking the leg in the chaos, or more common it means they got stomped. 

While I have a great deal of sympathies with black people all over this planet, and believe that our loyalties go back a long time, all of us speaking here, we can make no mistake that they are very very damaged, that they are very colonialized, very imperialized, very marginalized, and capable of a lot of ignorance themselves. 

And while skin does give us some indication who one's ancestors are, it is no indication as to what lies beneath. For you never know, given the opportunity whether they will choose to side within themselves genetically, with the rapist oppressor or with the native person struggling for self-determination for all people. 

Sure sociologist and psychologists could explain why a marginalized group of people, given the opportunity, will turn on the only people placed lower in the social ladder than they are at the time.  It does not excuse it and it does not mean that any of us can fall victim to it we must be prepared to defend ourselves.

Now there's also a difference between a crime motivated purely by hate and one that could say be a robbery which features a racial slur. 

agreed with all said

[dalsingh101]

15 hours ago, ਰੂਪ ਢਿੱਲੋਂ said:

In those days Black people were Skinheads as well

Did you see any in West London? I'd heard these guys existed but I can't ever recall seeing or hearing of any in East London?

At one point I vaguely recall they started differentiating themselves as 'boneheads' or 'skinheads'. 

[paapiman]

9 hours ago, ਰੂਪ ਢਿੱਲੋਂ said:

no Skin head movement was more related to music, appropriation of West Indian Culture SKA music etc then got kidnapped by white nationalism. ( NF). Nowadays I think anyone who is brown equals muslim terrorist in the eyes of all these groups in the west. racism is not exclusive to white people. They can even be victims of it. So this was a blunt racist attack on brown people

So according to you, if most of the Brown immigrants (in 70's and 80's) were Christians, that would not have affected the intensity of the terrorist attacks on the Brown people?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

12 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

John Brown, as a proud white supremacist minister said it was beneath them. And they killed his whole family. 

Wasn't John Brown a great Christian warrior, who fought against the slave owners?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[ਰੂਪ ਢਿੱਲੋਂ]

2 hours ago, paapiman said:

So according to you, if most of the Brown immigrants (in 70's and 80's) were Christians, that would not have affected the intensity of the terrorist attacks on the Brown people?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

that's not what I said...I said later the NF, National Front took over the movement...then it was generally White supremist, but there were also black people in it...the thing to note i that the West Indian's also only spoke English and yes are Christian...us browns were the other in every way, language, food, clothes...we were seen as the alien threat ...

going back to this original piece attacks cab from anyone

[dalsingh101]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10505245/Police-hunt-suspect-woman-31-hair-torn-head-race-attack-Croydon.html

[Premi]

33 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10505245/Police-hunt-suspect-woman-31-hair-torn-head-race-attack-Croydon.html

Saw it earlier, posted more details below. Blacks are racist towards Asians in the UK just as much as whites are it seems. Remember Blacks targeting Asian businesses during the 2011 'riots'. 

What you think @dalsingh101 ?

If South Asians (esp Indians) improve their street cred (training etc) would this happen less ?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10505245/Police-hunt-suspect-woman-31-hair-torn-head-race-attack-Croydon.html

On 1/13/2022 at 4:23 PM, ਰੂਪ ਢਿੱਲੋਂ said:

this is getting worse and worse ...the images suggest not all racists are white... a naïve assumption anyhow

 

Police hunt suspect after woman, 31, has hair torn from her head in race attack as she gets off bus in Croydon

• A South Asian woman had her hair torn in a race attack in Croydon, London
• Police have released a CCTV photo of a man that they want to question
• The victim was attacked outside East Croydon station on December 18 

By CHAY QUINN FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 11:01, 12 February 2022 | UPDATED: 17:24, 12 February 2022

 

Police have released a photograph of a man they want to speak to after a woman had hair torn from her scalp in a racially-aggravated attack.

The assault took place outside East Croydon Railway Station, south London, at around 6.45pm on December 18 when the 31-year-old victim got off a Route 119 bus.

Scotland Yard said she had her hair pulled by the suspect, resulting in a portion being ripped from her scalp.

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Scotland Yard have released this photo of a man they want to talk to about the race attack

[dalsingh101]

1 minute ago, Premi said:

Saw it earlier, posted more details below. Blacks are racist towards Asians in the UK just as much as whites are it seems. Remember Blacks targeting Asian businesses during the 2011 'riots'. 

What you think @dalsingh101 ?

If South Asians (esp Indians) improve their street cred (training etc) would this happen less ?

 

I'm with you on the street cred thing.

I think relationships depend on where you live and past experiences between communities.

In the late 80s/early 90s where I lived, after the whites were subdued (physically) there were gang wars between browns and blacks, and in my specific neighbourhood, browns won (through armed violence), I'd say since then, compared to many other places, there has been a healthy respect between the two communities. 

[Premi]

5 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

I'm with you on the street cred thing.

I think relationships depend on where you live and past experiences between communities.

In the late 80s/early 90s where I lived, after the whites were subdued (physically) there were gang wars between browns and blacks, and in my specific neighbourhood, browns won (through armed violence), I'd say since then, compared to many other places, there has been a healthy respect between the two communities. 

A lot of the whites and blacks involved in these crimes already have criminal records and not much to lose. 

I think you're right, they will pick on who they perceive as 'weak'. 

But it's extra bad picking on a defenceless woman, seems nothing other than a hate crime. 

[dalsingh101]

1 minute ago, Premi said:

A lot of the whites and blacks involved in these crimes already have criminal records and not much to lose. 

I think you're right, they will pick on who they perceive as 'weak'. 

But it's extra bad picking on a defenceless woman, seems nothing other than a hate crime. 

Any worse than mass grooming and sexual abuse  of vulnerable females by certain other quarters? 

[Premi]

17 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

Any worse than mass grooming and sexual abuse  of vulnerable females by certain other quarters? 

Cannot compare it , they are different.

The grooming thing is overall worse, but we are all aware of it now (or should be!)

This is different. This sort of racism doesn't get publicised much when people are going on about BLM and white-on-black and black-on-black crime. It maybe is not as frequent as those other types of hate /knife crime (although that young Singh murdered in West London was apparently victim to Somali gang). I think Apne need to be aware if not already, to be extra alert around certain groups and not necessarily think of them as our 'friends' if some in those groups might have more hatred than some whites and Paks. 

A lot of mixed race men also can be involved. 

No doubt from what I hear though, that Croydon is one of the roughest 'manors' in London.

Btw, @dalsingh101, are you aware that apparently there's a lot of 'freshies' who have settled in that area in recent years ?