Will Budha Dal help settle Ukraine Russia war?

[shastarSingh]

58 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

In the mean time we can morally support the Dals, and all equip ourselves like an ad hoc militia. 

I hv a plan.

At all the gurdwaras controlled by Nihangs, there is decent agricultural land around the Gurdwara Sahib where nihangs do farming themselves.

We Sikhs shud help nihangs buy as much agricultural land as possible. It will hv following benefits.

1. It will strengthen Dal Panth economically.

2. It will increase parchar of Sikhi.

3. Nihangs know the greatness of Cannabis/hemp plant from centuries on. They could start the farming of hemp which will be a great thing for soil, environment and economy.

[Sajjan_Thug]

3 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

Buddha Dal is an army.

Do people in worldly armies work free of cost??? Answer is NO. Army people all over the world get good salaries and many other benefits.

If Buddha Dal is strong enough to give good salaries, sikh parents will encourage their children to wear baana, keep rehit and serve in Dal Panth.

 

On 7/9/2022 at 11:50 PM, shastarSingh said:

Guru Sahib ji has blessed the Khalsa with Deg Teg Fateh.

Even if Langar runs out, charrdikala Khalsa can cover the big langar utensils with cloth and do Ardaas before Satguru ji and get the gift of infinite langar.

Can't Nihang Singhs put cloth over the golak and do Ardaas before Satguru ji and get the gift of infinite money?

Let us know when Nihang Singhs will do this?

[GurjantGnostic]

4 hours ago, Sajjan_Thug said:

 

Can't Nihang Singhs put cloth over the golak and do Ardaas before Satguru ji and get the gift of infinite money?

Let us know when Nihang Singhs will do this?

Bro. I tried. They were absolutely gonna do it, then one of them pointed out that it would cause inflation. So unfortunately they have to pass for now. 

[Shaheed4life]

Taiwan....

[Singh2022]

9 hours ago, Shaheed4life said:

Taiwan....

Paji unfortunately horsemanship and swordsmanship or Gatka simply don't cut it nowadays against the technology and weaponry (including nuclear) that the Chinese Army and American armed forces possess in 2022.

 

[shastarSingh]

27 minutes ago, Singh2022 said:

Paji unfortunately horsemanship and swordsmanship simply don't cut it nowadays against the technology and weaponry (including nuclear) that the Chinese Army and American armed forces possess in 2022.

 

[Singh2022]

The bottom line is that during the ongoing War against the Sikh Panth launched 40years ago the likes of Santa Sin, Poohla and other Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi worshippers (the nangs) have never participated in the real war affecting Sikhs in Punjab, namely :

*Pakistan + GOI supplied drugs destroying our youth

*Alcohol destroying millions of lives and families

*Female infanticide resulting in the self-perpetrated Genocide of millions of future Sikhs

*A Sikh TFR birth rate which is far below replacement level

*Apartheid-based golaks and dera's destroying the indivisible Unity and matrimonial circles of the Sikh Panth

*Poverty afflicting millions in our Qaum

*Lack of quality education for so many young Sikhs 

*High rates of Cancer among Sikhs and lack of treatment for that and lack of de-addiction strategies for those with dependency issues 

*A toxic environment for many in urban areas especially 

*The deliberate facilitation in the growth of Muslim and Christian numbers in east Punjab in order to leave Sikhs as a minority in east Punjab by the 2031 census.

These are some aspects of the ongoing war against the Sikh Panth and the nangs that supported Santa or Poohla are never going to participate in such an actual Dharam Yudh as terrorist Indira Gandhi was their Guru.

 

 

 

[GurjantGnostic]

8 hours ago, Singh2022 said:

The bottom line is that during the ongoing War against the Sikh Panth launched 40years ago the likes of Santa Sin, Poohla and other Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi worshippers (the nangs) have never participated in the real war affecting Sikhs in Punjab, namely :

*Pakistan + GOI supplied drugs destroying our youth

*Alcohol destroying millions of lives and families

*Female infanticide resulting in the self-perpetrated Genocide of millions of future Sikhs

*A Sikh TFR birth rate which is far below replacement level

*Apartheid-based golaks and dera's destroying the indivisible Unity and matrimonial circles of the Sikh Panth

*Poverty afflicting millions in our Qaum

*Lack of quality education for so many young Sikhs 

*High rates of Cancer among Sikhs and lack of treatment for that and lack of de-addiction strategies for those with dependency issues 

*A toxic environment for many in urban areas especially 

*The deliberate facilitation in the growth of Muslim and Christian numbers in east Punjab in order to leave Sikhs as a minority in east Punjab by the 2031 census.

These are some aspects of the ongoing war against the Sikh Panth and the nangs that supported Santa or Poohla are never going to participate in such an actual Dharam Yudh as terrorist Indira Gandhi was their Guru.

 

 

 

Tangent. 

Just wanted to give Veer Ji his props, a salute. 

So called missionary Sikhs are loyal to the Paanth. At least the majority, as applies to all our limbs. 

Here is the proof. One of their tenets is that Akal as Ajooni, can't be born. Thus the Guru Sahiban were not direct manifestations. They have a very human approach. 

The best Bani to support this is, Dasam Granth, Bachitar Natak, which they question because of other content seeming or being incongruent. 

They would not endure hardship, out of loyalty, questioning the one part of Dasam Granth, that supports their ideology the best, were they acting in selfish or malevolent interest. 

We do not agree with a variety of their tenets, that's okay. 

This is 1 Paanth comprised of all truly loyal to it. And we are deceiving ourselves if we think there aren't sincere Sangat among them. 

And we should be very robust in how we communicate with them, because the precepts will need to be well honed speaking to others. 

 

[paapiman]

On 8/1/2022 at 10:04 PM, Arsh1469 said:

I hear Nihangs worship Durga and not like as an aspect of God or something but as a supreme deti.

Where have you heard about that bro? Durga Devi is a manifestation of Sri Aad Shakti (which should be worshipped by the Sikhs).

@shastarSingh - Is the above true?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[GurjantGnostic]

5 minutes ago, paapiman said:

Where have you heard about that bro? Durga Devi is a manifestation of Sri Aad Shakti (which should be worshipped by the Sikhs).

@shastarSingh - Is the above true?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

You meant should not?

[paapiman]

3 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

You meant should not?

We worship Sri Aad Shakti or Sri Akaal Shakti bro, which is the Primal Power of Sri Waheguru jee.

We do not worship Goddesses, Demi-Gods, Prophets, etc.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[GurjantGnostic]

10 minutes ago, paapiman said:

We worship Sri Aad Shakti or Sri Akaal Shakti bro, which is the Primal Power of Sri Waheguru jee.

We do not worship Goddesses, Demi-Gods, Prophets, etc.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Those sound like the same thing bro. 

[shastarSingh]

2 hours ago, paapiman said:

Where have you heard about that bro? Durga Devi is a manifestation of Sri Aad Shakti (which should be worshipped by the Sikhs).

@shastarSingh - Is the above true?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

U can ask Mahakaal Gurdyal Singh of Buddha dal

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[Arsh1469]

2 hours ago, paapiman said:

Where have you heard about that bro? Durga Devi is a manifestation of Sri Aad Shakti (which should be worshipped by the Sikhs).

@shastarSingh - Is the above true?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Why should we worship some manifestation of Akal instead of the full form of Akal. That is assuming what you said is true. I have not seen Gurbani support the above claim at all. Sant Jarnail Singh (I think it was) says that in Chandi Di Var Guru Ji is worshipping the Kirpan I.e shastar not any Devi.

[shastarSingh]

2 hours ago, paapiman said:

We worship Sri Aad Shakti or Sri Akaal Shakti bro, which is the Primal Power of Sri Waheguru jee.

We do not worship Goddesses, Demi-Gods, Prophets, etc.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

What does Akaal shakti mean?

Is it a conscious being?

Is it self created??

In Sikhi, only God is self created.

[GurjantGnostic]

On 8/2/2022 at 11:05 PM, Singh2022 said:

Paji unfortunately horsemanship and swordsmanship or Gatka simply don't cut it nowadays against the technology and weaponry (including nuclear) that the Chinese Army and American armed forces possess in 2022.

 

Amen bro. Which is why we need small security companies, and a lot of farmland, and have Khalislands all over the world. Living half in half out the world. Mostly off the grid. Expanding our martial and educational capacities at all times while presenting ourselves well to our neighbors everywhere. 

[paapiman]

4 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

What does Akaal shakti mean?

Is it a conscious being?

Is it self created??

In Sikhi, only God is self created.

@Arsh1469

Please listen to the katha below. It might help you guys to understand the concept behind Sri Chandi jee/Sri Bhagauti jee/Sri Aad Shakti/Sri Akaal Shakti.

 

@Soulfinder

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

7 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Those sound like the same thing bro. 

It's different bro.

Sri Bhagauti jee is the Primal Power of Sri Waheguru jee. The Hindus Goddesses are further partial manifestations of that Power.

We are suppose to worship that Power (in Feminine form), not Hindu Goddesses (who themselves derive their power/energy from that Power source). 

@Arsh1469

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

5 hours ago, Arsh1469 said:

Why should we worship some manifestation of Akal instead of the full form of Akal. That is assuming what you said is true. I have not seen Gurbani support the above claim at all. Sant Jarnail Singh (I think it was) says that in Chandi Di Var Guru Ji is worshipping the Kirpan I.e shastar not any Devi.

Shastars are also a manifestation of Sri Aad Shakti. That is why, IMHO, Singhs must wear a lot of Shastars while doing Jaap of certain Gurbanis like Sri Bhagauti Astotar, Sri Bhagauti Braham Kavach, Sri Shastar Naam Mala saab, Sri Chandi dee Vaar, etc. It is possible that the vibrations from the Jaap of these Gurbanis (when recited by a Singh who has attained Mantar Sidhi of those Jaaps) will have a subtle impact on the Shastars nearby.

We are not suppose to worship Devi/Devte, but we must respect them.

@GurjantGnostic @shastarSingh

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[shastarSingh]

10 minutes ago, paapiman said:

It's different bro.

Sri Bhagauti jee is the Primal Power of Sri Waheguru jee. The Hindus Goddesses are further partial manifestations of that Power.

We are suppose to worship that Power (in Feminine form), not Hindu Goddesses (who themselves derive their power/energy from that Power source). 

@Arsh1469

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Is Sri bhagauti ji self created or created by God?

Is she a conscious being?

[paapiman]

1 minute ago, shastarSingh said:

Is Sri bhagauti ji self created or created by God?

Everything is created by the Almighty Sri Waheguru jee.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

1 minute ago, shastarSingh said:

Is she a conscious being?

Sri Bhagauti jee can definitely take a form.

Listen to the Katha bro. This is a very complicated issue. Even Daas does not fully knows about it.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[shastarSingh]

5 minutes ago, paapiman said:

Everything is created by the Almighty Sri Waheguru jee.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

I agree.

 

[paapiman]

19 minutes ago, paapiman said:

It's different bro.

Sri Bhagauti jee is the Primal Power of Sri Waheguru jee. The Hindus Goddesses are further partial manifestations of that Power.

We are suppose to worship that Power (in Feminine form), not Hindu Goddesses (who themselves derive their power/energy from that Power source). 

@Arsh1469

 

Bhul chuk maaf

@GurjantGnostic - Is the concept of Sri Bhagauti jee similar to the concept of Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost in Christianity?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[GurjantGnostic]

1 hour ago, paapiman said:

@GurjantGnostic - Is the concept of Sri Bhagauti jee similar to the concept of Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost in Christianity?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

If there is one thing I've learned is this. There is no wayyyy to say what Christians beleive, because they don't agree.  

I need to put together a comparitive christian doctrine chart so Sikhs can tell them apart, know how to speak to them, and also because if you take all the permutations they argue it gives you a really good construct of options to compare. 

That's sounding more like Mary or Mother of Heaven arguments. 

And it doesn't sound right. 

Maya is the entirety of the "feminine" here. We are "feminine" here. Gurbani says the first two cults was that of male and female? Bhai Gurdas Ji?

We only worship 1, "The Man", who's maleness we can't understand as females. 

And Pappiman is a super well versed awesome knowledgeable brother and I don't know enough to answer from a Sikh or Christian viewpoint without taking some real time on it and consulting people and sources. 

So I wouldn't discount him at all. 

And I do see what he's saying. It's the "ultimate female energy". 

We do bow to Shastar Devi. That rings true.