DHANBABANANAK Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 What size kirpan does the law allow a sikh to carry out and to work? in UK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Lung Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 If it's being carried for genuine religious reasons then it can be any size. However, there are social norms and limits to bear in mind - not just the law. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hari Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 Size doesn't matter.Aslong as it is an effective weapon, which is what it is.Did someone say symbol?Where's my stick.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Lung Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 Please be more careful with your choice of words. Everyone is thinking "symbol". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hari Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 Please be more careful with your choice of words. Everyone is thinking "symbol". Kirpan = shastra (melee weapon) Weapon!! :roll: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Lung Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 This is going to cause problems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hari Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 What's going to cause problems? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Lung Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 Wait and see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbreakable Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 .. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardeep_singh Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 i've heard its 3.5 inches aswell but don't know how true that is 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Lung Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 It ain't true. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amrikingh Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 Gyani's inda gurdwara, "My Kirpan is bigger then yours", lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Lung Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 My kirpan is curvier than yours. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hari Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 You should not keep weapons on your person if you know not how to use them and look after them.You are allowed to have a knife of no more than 3 inches according to the law in the UK.Even then you have to have a good reason to have one (fishing, gardening et cetera).Happy hunting.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Lung Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 Hari you're wrong. You should not keep weapons on your person full stop. What you wrote about the 3-inches law is not true, as I mentioned earlier. It's not a question of inches. Stop making stuff up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 stop with confusion and provide references as from england law book what kinda sizes of kirpan is allowed?????? :roll: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Lung Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 I've already answered the question!! For any size "kirpan" (for practical purposes, any fixed-blade knife) possession is allowed in public places, provided you are carrying it for genuine religious reasons. Offensive Weapons Act 1959 as amended, OK? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hari Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 Hari you're wrong. You should not keep weapons on your person full stop. What you wrote about the 3-inches law is not true, as I mentioned earlier. It's not a question of inches. Stop making stuff up. According to the Criminal Justice Act 1988 you can carry a knife with blade length of 3 inches aslong as it can be folded.No fixed blades.Even then you need a good reason.Don't get your knickers in a twist darling. :wink: Is a Kirpan a religious article or a knife?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 If I may interject here, I might be able to help throw some light on this situation. It is both a knife and a religious article. It is not a weapon. Usually kirpan is not a folding knife, but a fixed-blade knife. The relevant law is the 1959 Act as amended. Fixed-blade knives OF ANY LENGTH are generally prohibited in public places UNLESS the holder has them as part of a national costume (e.g. Scots and Arabs in full costume) or for educational purposes or for religious reasons . Sikhs rely on the religious exemption to carry kirpan. I think the amendment referred to by Bruce Lung was that the 1988 Act added a lot more articles to the list of weapons prohibited under the 1959 Act. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hari Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 Have it your way then.Call it what you want. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Lung Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 Of course this isn't the good old days, and many Singhs have never been hunting which makes me wonder why they think simply taking amrit is enough to carry kirpan.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexy_singh Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 waheguru waheguru 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakash Singh Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 so what is enough to carry a kirpan? most singhs are damn veges so wnt actually hunt, shame really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artistformalyknownasodhi Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 it is isnt it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 so what is enough to carry a kirpan? most singhs are damn veges so wnt actually hunt, shame really. That's not entirely true - one does not need hunt animals to fight jung's. Just look into lives of Baba Bir Singh Ji Naurangabad, Baba Maharaj Singh Ji Naurangabad, Sant baba jawala singh ji (associated with 35 regiment) fought many wars in their lives being "veggie". I do understand why nihangs are non-veggie and i respect that but lets not judge warriors by looking if they are veggie or non-veggie...that has very little to do with soldier- hood in Sikhism.. one needs a kirpa and hakum - one can fight the enemies being leper, handicapped, old, woman, children etc etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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