Muslim Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Hello, Salaam. How is everyone doing? By the way you might be thinking what is he doing. Anyway am interested in learning about Sikhism. I am student of theology, and now am looking at aspects of Sikhism. Also I am wanting to know where I can read the English translation of the Sikh holy book. If someone can help me, this will be much appreciated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amrikingh Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 welcome well first of all its not a book its called the Sri Guru Granth Sahib 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawrof Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 wallay kum salaam brother! You will find this site particularly, to be very enriching, as there are many on this site who have a healthy interest in theology. We have websites which explain our guru (sri guru granth sahib ji) very well. As most sikhs 'feel' the divinity of the creator within it. The sites though do have a few shortcomings in that they don't contextualize the hymns or explain the contexts. But as a starting point.... www.srigranth.org will be a reasonable site as it explains alot. Our guru's while in human form, actually overlooked the scribing of guru granth sahib ji, and, hence, our issues lie mainly in the way we interpret and through what set of "lenses" we use. Ie, some are theologists, others socialists, others modernists....to make a long story short, the site I have posted will scratch the surface, but please feel free to post any questions you may have, and I am sure one of the many wise ones on this board will be happy to build bridges. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vijaydeep Singh Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Gurfateh Bimillah Al Rahmaan Al Raheem. Dear Bro, are you the same young man das has interacted with at other forum.What so ever be warm welcome and Ahlan Wa Sahlan. Allah Hafiz.Think yourself mong your own people.There could be only differance like that of 21 and 19 between us and you.And at later stage ie at higher spritual level we all are same. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muslim Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 welcome well first of all its not a book its called the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Sorry, I was just trying to be brief. Also, I think it is fine to call it a holy "book" I don't see why there should be a problem with that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muslim Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 wallay kum salaam brother! You will find this site particularly, to be very enriching, as there are many on this site who have a healthy interest in theology. We have websites which explain our guru (sri guru granth sahib ji) very well. As most sikhs 'feel' the divinity of the creator within it. The sites though do have a few shortcomings in that they don't contextualize the hymns or explain the contexts. But as a starting point.... That is excellent, I will be looking at the website you have suggested. Although my purpose is to find discrepancies withing, holy scriptures. I specialize in debating. So if there are any philosophical aspects to Sikhism or scholarly articles then, those would be something I would enjoy looking into. Obviously, when one is debating you have to challenge others, on their beliefs and Analise them in a logical manner. Islam is a missionary religion, we are told to debate with people of other faiths in a logical and respectful manner and then invite them to Islam. www.srigranth.org will be a reasonable site as it explains alot. Our guru's while in human form, actually overlooked the scribing of guru granth sahib ji, and, hence, our issues lie mainly in the way we interpret and through what set of "lenses" we use. Ie, some are theologists, others socialists, others modernists....to make a long story short, the site I have posted will scratch the surface, . Hmm... seems very similar to the mystic aspects of Islam (Sufism) thats pretty interesting. but please feel free to post any questions you may have, and I am sure one of the many wise ones on this board will be happy to build bridges Thanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muslim Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Gurfateh Bimillah Al Rahmaan Al Raheem. Dear Bro, are you the same young man das has interacted with at other forum.What so ever be warm welcome and Ahlan Wa Sahlan. Allah Hafiz.Think yourself mong your own people.There could be only differance like that of 21 and 19 between us and you.And at later stage ie at higher spritual level we all are same. No I am not the person you are referring to. I only post on this Sikh forum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amrikingh Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Sorry, I was just trying to be brief. Also, I think it is fine to call it a holy "book" I don't see why there should be a problem with that. to you it just might seem a holy book, but to Sikhs its rather more than that so please appreciate it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muslim Posted February 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 to you it just might seem a holy book, but to Sikhs its rather more than that so please appreciate it Do you even know the definition of a "book"? its something that contains knowledge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mloco Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 do you know the definition of Guru 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vijaydeep Singh Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Gurfateh In Islam four books or Kateeb are respected but more respected is prophet onto whom last book was sent. But in Sikhs Guru Granth Sahib themselve enjoy the status of prophet. Only in some section of Shia does Holy Kuran is aclled Nubi(Which may gbe refered to Nabi or Prophet but das has seen good lot of disscussion among Islamic scholars on that). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsingh00 Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 hold up, ur asking for knowledge on sikhi so u can go and try to convert sikhs??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muslim Posted February 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 hold up, ur asking for knowledge on sikhi so u can go and try to convert sikhs??? Yes, Islam is a missionary religion. I don't try to convert any person it is usually people who have a good understanding of their religion. I debate, I have debated with many Christians, atheists, and Jews. Some of whom have even converted to Islam. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muslim Posted February 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 do you know the definition of Guru "Gu" means darkness, and "ru" means light; thus a guru turns ignorance into enlightenment. In the west, the term has been interpreted quite often as simply an expert in a field whether that person helps you learn or understand anything or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mloco Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 yesh and Guru Granth Sahib is our Guru, not just a source of knowledge like your average book. Knowledge can be good or bad, can lead to darkness e.g. with atheism or light. Guru Granth Sahib is a visible embodiment of Satguru, not just a book. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardeep_singh Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 why should sikhs convert to islam over sikhism? not being funny but i think you need to educate your own people about your own religion before trying to bring more people into it, by this i mean the fools that are giving you own religion a bad name like the ones protesting in london. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbreakable Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 .. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdsingh80 Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Yes, Islam is a missionary religion. I don't try to convert any person it is usually people who have a good understanding of their religion. I debate, I have debated with many Christians, atheists, and Jews. Some of whom have even converted to Islam. muslim if you are really interested in debates go to http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum.htm and try to defend islam.there are many atheists ,ex-muslims christians hindus on that site.every muslim that tries to debate with them is badly defeated by them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sikhboy Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Veer, Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Wahguru Ji Ki Fateh you can log on to www.sikhnet.com here you can find the whole Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji, along with english translation, which helps people understand the words of Guru. Gur Fateh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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