DSG Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 On my way to the Gurudawara yesterday , I heard alot of cop cars passing by , low and behold when i reached the Gurudawara , the Police had blocked off the entire Road , there must be about 6-10 cop cars . My Mrs and her sister also went to the Gurudawara and later told me , 2 AmriTDhari Sikhs , standing outside discussing revenge , yes revenge One said to the other remember some time back I was in the Dharbar sahib and you pulled my beard ,.., well today i took revenge , ( he pulled the other guys beard yesterday ) and then said we are now equal , from now on you dont do anything to me and i wont to you. Violence at this Gurudawra has happened before in the past , and again Police were at the scene. The Question arises , how can this be stopped ? What impression are we giving to our children and the outsiders ? We protest when something bad is said about sikhi i.e. Taking Siri Guru Granth Sahib to Pubs / Clubs , banning plays etc This time it is Amrit Dhari Sikhs Fihting amongst themselves and in the DharBar Sahib infront of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, should the same bans apply here ? Please post your views ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystical Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Let them fight 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSG Posted February 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 what about siri guru granth sahib taken to pubs and clubs for weddings ? Are you going to say let them carry on ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamic_Banda Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Lets start cutting off the hands and tongues of those who do such sick biadbi of maharaj.. and then out of fear and respect nobody will do anything wrong or stupid That is justifiable use of violence to protect the Guru and the Sikhi ! Infact as a true khalsa, shouldnt we be allowed to pass judgment as well as punish those who do wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystical Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Todays handeling of Gurdwaray volience is stupid. Does anyone know how they start? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSG Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Dynamic Banda , i think you are missing the point . On one hand in a Gurudawa they preach , we should teach sikhi to our kids , practice sikhi , do part etc.. and on the other hand they are fighting , fighting in the Gurudawara in front of the Guru. How will the youngsters adopt sikhi if all they see is elderly men pulling beards, knocking off their turbans , if a non-sikh came into the gurudawara and did this , i'm sure they would react differently. How will we enhance the society and request for improvements if we are fighting amongst ourseleves ? In this particular case the fighting was for power i.e. elections 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueSouluk Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 This subject gets on my nervous, what the hell are these so called sikhs doing fight outside/inside a gudwara. People need to grow up and have some respect for sikhi. Theres a Youtube gudwara fight which got me so vexed. I asked the person to take it off, but they refused. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 I can understand the violence a little. i am a comiitee member and some of the comiittee members are anti panth and anti granth. I want to hit them. HARD! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamic_Banda Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 In my opinion fights will always occur, there are those people who avoid fighting like the sant lokh, and the scholarly guys. nirmalas and udhasis, but they usually seem to hindu to run gurdwaras, and those who are hot tempered and simple minded they end up running the gurdwaras. I dont think its people wanting to be anti panth or anti granth, just different people become passionate about different things. When power is available to those who have no understanding of it, then of course stupidity will be the only manner in which they can resolve their differences. Just look at what happened when George Bush became President ! Stupidity and power = Unneccesary Violence Plus I think another major factor is that the Gurdwaras used be run by donations and by the sangat, now they are all funded by Lottery Fund or some other Government grant, new community centers are opened not with the sangat in mind but simply for the grants. Insted of facilities to enhace sangat integration and things for kids, the gurdwaras build massive wedding halls, its turned from a spiritual experience to a religious product, bottled and sold by the biggest and best corporation. We need free Range Sikhi.. No more GM(Grant Maintained) Sikhi.. Thats my personal take on it though, others would argue the moneys there use it.. and we pay taxes, and the community centres are for the kids in the long run, and spending the goverments money is better then spending the sangats, and all that.. so maybe im wrong.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamic_Banda Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 note to self.. Not all nirmalas or sant lokh are non fighters.. some do kick a$$ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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