Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?

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Am sitting here at work and my mind feels really still and stable. When I close my eyes and just internally jap I can feel this kind of void forming in my chest, very difficult to explain. It's a very deep sensation and the most soothing feeling I've ever experienced. The tranquility seems really blissful. Really wish I wasn't at work right now and I could just close my eyes and just sit there in this dark cave like place.

WaheGuru

Edited June 5, 2013 by Sat1176

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Was just sitting relaxed on the sofa, mind was feeling real still with hardly any thoughts, just breathing slowly. Closed my eyes and looked straight ahead. Next thing I know the darkness is replaced with bright green light. Was much more prominent in the left eye. Never seen such a strong green colour in the darkness like that before.

Waheguru

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Have come to Sidh Gost on Ang 938 by Guru Nanak Dev ji. Loads of tips in this bani.. Love it

The world-ocean is treacherous and impassable; how can one cross over?

dunee-aa saagar dutar kahee-ai ki-o kar paa-ee-ai paaro.

The lotus flower floats untouched upon the surface of the water, and the duck swims through the stream;

jaisay jal meh kamal niraalam murgaa-ee nai saanay.

with one`s consciousness focused on the Word of the Shabad, one crosses over the terrifying world-ocean. O Nanak, chant the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

surat sabad bhav saagar taree-ai naanak naam vakhaanay.

One who lives alone, as a hermit, enshrining the One Lord in his mind, remaining unaffected by hope in the midst of hope,

raheh ikaaNt ayko man vasi-aa aasaa maahi niraaso.

Don`t be angry with us - please tell us: How can we find the Guru`s Door?"

ros na keejai utar deejai ki-o paa-ee-ai gur du-aaro.

This fickle mind sits in its true home, O Nanak, through the Support of the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

ih man chalta-o sach ghar baisai naanak naam aDhaaro.

Ang 939

In the stores and on the road, do not sleep; do not let your consciousness covet anyone else`s home. (Do not let your mind sleep i.e. think about anything else. Keep it locked on the naam)

haatee baatee need na aavai par ghar chit na dolaa-ee.

Without the Name, the mind has no firm support; O Nanak, this hunger never departs.

bin naavai man tayk na tik-ee naanak bhookh na jaa-ee.

The Guru has revealed the stores and the city within the home of my own heart, where I intuitively carry on the true trade (Gurmantar/Naam).

haat patan ghar guroo dikhaa-i-aa sehjay sach vaapaaro.

Sleep little, and eat little; O Nanak, this is the essence of wisdom.

khandit nidraa alap ahaaraN naanak tat beechaaro.

Nanak speaks: the Gurmukh understands; this is the way that Yoga is attained.

naanak bolai gurmukh boojhai jog jugat iv paa-ee-ai.

Let constant absorption in the Word of the Shabad deep within be your ear-rings; eradicate egotism and attachment.

antar sabad nirantar mudraa ha-umai mamtaa door karee.

Discard sexual desire, anger and egotism, and through the Word of the Guru`s Shabad, attain true understanding.

kaam kroDh ahaNkaar nivaarai gur kai sabad so samajh paree.

For your patched coat and begging bowl, see the Lord God pervading and permeating everywhere; O Nanak, the One Lord will carry you across.

khinthaa jholee bharipur rahi-aa naanak taarai ayk haree.

Let your mind turn away in detachment from the world, and let this be your begging bowl. Let the lessons of the five elements be your cap.

ooNDha-o khapar panch bhoo topee.

Let the body be your meditation mat, and the mind your loin cloth.

kaaN-i-aa karhaasan man jaagotee.

Let truth, contentment and self-discipline be your companions.

sat santokh sanjam hai naal.

O Nanak, the Gurmukh dwells on the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

naanak gurmukh naam samaal.

Ang 940

Born into the House of the True Guru, my wandering in reincarnation ended.

satgur kai janmay gavan mitaa-i-aa.

My mind is attached and attuned to the unstruck sound current.

anhat raatay ih man laa-i-aa.

Through the Word of the Shabad, my hopes and desires have been burnt away.

mansaa aasaa sabad jalaa-ee.

As Gurmukh, I found the Light deep within the nucleus of my self.

gurmukh jot nirantar paa-ee.

Through the Word of the Guru`s Shabad, egotism and corruption are conquered, and then one comes to dwell in the home of the self within.

gur kai sabad ha-umai bikh maarai taa nij ghar hovai vaaso.

One who realizes the Shabad of the One who created the creation - Nanak is his slave.

jin rach rachi-aa tis sabad pachhaanai naanak taa kaa daaso.

He alone is a Yogi, who realizes the Word of the Guru`s Shabad; the lotus of the heart blossoms forth within.

so jogee gur sabad pachhaanai antar kamal pargaas thee-aa.

If one remains dead while yet alive, then he understands everything; he knows the Lord deep within himself, who is kind and compassionate to all.

jeevat marai taa sabh kichh soojhai antar jaanai sarab da-i-aa.

O Nanak, he is blessed with glorious greatness; he realizes himself in all beings.

naanak taa ka-o milai vadaa-ee aap pachhaanai sarab jee-aa.

We emerge from Truth, and merge into Truth again. The pure being merges into the One True Lord.

saachou upjai saach samaavai saachay soochay ayk ma-i-aa.

Ang 941

One who is filled with the Word of the Guru`s Shabad enshrines love for the Lord.

gur kai sabad rapai rang laa-ay.

Attuned to the Truth, he goes to his home with honor.

saach rata-o pat si-o ghar jaa-ay.

Without the True Word of the Shabad, no one receives honor.

saach sabad bin pat nahee paavai.

O Nanak, without the Name, how can one be absorbed in Truth?

naanak bin naavai ki-o saach samaavai.

One who remains dead while yet alive, through the Word of the Guru`s Shabad, finds the door of liberation.

gur kai sabad jo mar jeevai so paa-ay mokh du-aar.

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Ang 942

Without the Shabad, all are attached to duality. Contemplate this in your heart, and see.
bin sabdai sabh doojai laagay daykhhu ridai beechaar.
O Nanak, blessed and very fortunate are those who keep the True Lord enshrined in their hearts.
naanak vaday say vadbhaagee jinee sach rakhi-aa ur Dhaar.

The Gurmukh eliminates hate and envy.
gurmukh vair viroDh gavaavai.

Without the Guru, the mind is totally unsteady.
bin gur manoo-aa at dolaa-ay.

One who meets the Guru (i.e. anhad shabad) is carried across.
jis gur milai tis paar utaarai.

In the store of the body, this mind is the merchant;
tan hatrhee ih man vanjaaraa.

O Nanak, it deals intuitively in Truth.
naanak sehjay sach vaapaaraa.

The Gurmukh focuses himself in very deep meditation
gurmukh laagai sahj Dhi-aan.

In the Court of the Lord, the Gurmukh is absorbed in His Praises.
gurmukh dargeh sifat samaa-ay.

Through the Shabad, the Gurmukh burns away his ego.
gurmukh ha-umai sabad jalaa-ay.

Ang 943

"What is the root, the source of all? What teachings hold for these times?
kavan mool kavan mat vaylaa.
Who is your guru? Whose disciple are you?
tayraa kavan guroo jis kaa too chaylaa.
What is that speech, by which you remain unattached?
Kavan kathaa lay rahhu niraalay.

From the air came the beginning. This is the age of the True Guru`s Teachings.
pavan arambh satgur mat vaylaa.

The Shabad is the Guru, upon whom I lovingly focus my consciousness; I am the chaylaa, the disciple.
sabad guroo surat Dhun chaylaa.

Speaking the Unspoken Speech, I remain unattached.
akath kathaa lay raha-o niraalaa.

O Nanak, throughout the ages, the Lord of the World is my Guru.
naanak jug jug gur gopaalaa.

I contemplate the sermon of the One Shabad, the Word of the One God.
ayk sabad jit kathaa veechaaree.

Eradicating egotism and individualism from within,
ha-o ha-o mai mai vichahu khovai.

and erasing duality, the mortal becomes one with God.
doojaa maytai ayko hovai.

The world is difficult for the foolish, self-willed manmukh;
jag karrhaa manmukh gaavaar.

practicing the Shabad, one chews iron.
sabad kamaa-ee-ai khaa-ee-ai saar.

Know the One Lord, inside and out.
antar baahar ayko jaanai.

O Nanak, the fire is quenched, through the Pleasure of the True Guru`s Will.
naanak agan marai satgur kai bhaanai.

Imbued with the True Fear of God, pride is taken away;
sach bhai raataa garab nivaarai.

realize that He is One, and contemplate the Shabad.
ayko jaataa sabad veechaarai.

With the True Shabad abiding deep within the heart,
sabad vasai sach antar hee-aa.

the body and mind are cooled and soothed, and colored with the Lord`s Love.
tan man seetal rang rangee-aa.

The fire of sexual desire, anger and corruption is quenched.
kaam kroDh bikh agan nivaaray.

O Nanak, the Beloved bestows His Glance of Grace.
naanak nadree nadar pi-aaray.

What is that food, which takes away pride?
jit garab jaa-ay so kavan aahaar.

How can one live in the palace, the home of snow, wearing robes of fire?
hivai kaa ghar mandar agan piraahan.

Where is that cave, within which one may remain unshaken?
kavan gufaa jit rahai avaahan.
Who should we know to be pervading here and there?
it ut kis ka-o jaan samaavai.
What is that meditation, which leads the mind to be absorbed in itself?"
kavan Dhi-aan man maneh samaavai.

Giving voice to the Shabad, the moon of the mind is illuminated with infinity.
Sabad bhaakhat sas jot apaaraa.

When the sun dwells in the house of the moon, the darkness is dispelled.
sas ghar soor vasai mitai anDhi-aaraa.

Pleasure and pain are just the same, when one takes the Support of the Naam, the Name of the Lord.
sukh dukh sam kar naam aDhaaraa.

He Himself saves, and carries us across.
aapay paar utaaranhaaraa.

With faith in the Guru, the mind merges in Truth,
gur parchai man saach samaa-ay.

and then, prays Nanak, one is not consumed by Death.
paranvat naanak kaal na khaa-ay.

The essence of the Naam, the Name of the Lord, is known to be the most exalted and excellent of all.
naam tat sabh hee sir jaapai.

Without the Name, one is afflicted by pain and death.
bin naavai dukh kaal santaapai.

When one`s essence merges into the essence, the mind is satisfied and fulfilled.
tato tat milai man maanai.

Duality is gone, and one enters into the home of the One Lord.
doojaa jaa-ay ikat ghar aanai.

The breath blows across the sky of the Tenth Gate and vibrates. (Reference to Trikuti)

bolai pavnaa gagan garjai.

O Nanak, the mortal then intuitively meets the eternal, unchanging Lord.
naanak nihchal milan sahjai.

The absolute Lord is deep within; the absolute Lord is outside us as well. The absolute Lord totally fills the three worlds.
antar sunaN baahar sunaN taribhavan sunn masuNnaN.

One who knows the Lord in the fourth state, is not subject to virtue or vice.
cha-uthay sunnai jo nar jaanai taa ka-o paap na puNnaN.

That humble being who is imbued with the Immaculate Naam,
jo jan naam niranjan raataa.

O Nanak, is himself the Primal Lord, the Architect of Destiny.
naanak so-ee purakh biDhaataa.

By practicing control over the nine gates, one attains perfect control over the Tenth Gate.
na-o sar subhar dasvai pooray.

There, the unstruck sound current of the horn resounds.
tah anhat sunn vajaavah tooray.

Behold the True Lord ever-present, and merge with Him.

saachai raachay daykh hajooray.

WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru

Edited June 10, 2013 by Sat1176

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Ang 944

The hidden Bani of the Word is revealed.

guptee banee pargat ho-ay.

O Nanak, the True Lord is revealed and known.

naanak parakh la-ay sach so-ay.

Meeting with the Lord through intuition and love, peace is found.

sahj bhaa-ay milee-ai sukh hovai.

The Gurmukh remains awake and aware; he does not fall sleep.

gurmukh jaagai need na sovai.

He enshrines the unlimited, absolute Shabad deep within.

sunn sabad aprampar Dhaarai.

Chanting the Shabad, he is liberated, and saves others as well.

kahtay mukat sabad nistaarai.

Those who practice the Guru`s Teachings are attuned to the Truth.

gur kee deekhi-aa say sach raatay.

Evil thoughts are erased, contemplating the Word of the Guru`s Shabad.

kubuDh mitai gur sabad beechaar.

Meeting with the True Guru, the door of liberation is found.

satgur bhaytai mokh du-aar.

Accepting the Hukam of the Lord`s Command, he is blessed with all virtues and spiritual wisdom.

maanai hukam sabhay gun gi-aan.

"Where is the Shabad said to dwell? What will carry us across the terrifying world-ocean?

so sabad kaa kahaa vaas kathee-alay jit taree-ai bhavjal sansaaro.

The air is the dwelling place of the absolute Lord. He has no qualities; He has all qualities.

pavan kaa vaasaa sunn nivaasaa akal kalaa Dhar so-ee.

When He bestows His Glance of Grace, the Shabad comes to abide within the heart, and doubt is eradicated from within.

nadar karay sabad ghat meh vasai vichahu bharam gavaa-ay.

The body and mind become immaculate, through the Immaculate Word of His Bani. Let His Name be enshrined in your mind.

tan man nirmal nirmal banee naamo man vasaa-ay.

The Shabad is the Guru, to carry you across the terrifying world-ocean. Know the One Lord alone, here and hereafter.

sabad guroo bhavsaagar taree-ai it ut ayko jaanai.

He has no form or color, shadow or illusion; O Nanak, realize the Shabad.

chihan varan nahee chhaa-i-aa maa-i-aa naanak sabad pachhaanai.

O reclusive hermit, the True, Absolute Lord is the support of the exhaled breath, which extends out ten finger lengths.

tarai sat angul vaa-ee a-oDhoo sunn sach aahaaro.

The Gurmukh speaks and churns the essence of reality, and realizes the unseen, infinite Lord.

gurmukh bolai tat birolai cheenai alakh apaaro.

Eradicating the three qualities, he enshrines the Shabad within, and then, his mind is rid of egotism.

tarai gun maytai sabad vasaa-ay taa man chookai ahankaaro.

Inside and out, he knows the One Lord alone; he is in love with the Name of the Lord.

antar baahar ayko jaanai taa har naam lagai pi-aaro

He understands the Sushmana, Ida and Pingala, when the unseen Lord reveals Himself.

sukhmanaa irhaa pingulaa boojhai jaa aapay alakh lakhaa-ay.

O Nanak, the True Lord is above these three energy channels. Through the Word, the Shabad of the True Guru, one merges with Him.

naanak tihu tay oopar saachaa satgur sabad samaa-ay.

Ang 945

O Nanak, when one looks upon pain and pleasure alike, through the True Guru, then he is not consumed by Death.

naanak dukh sukh sam kar jaapai satgur tay kaal na garaasai.

He does not preserve his semen and seed, and does not chant the Shabad.

bind na raakhi-aa sabad na bhaakhi-aa.

He does not control his breath; he does not worship and adore the True Lord.

pavan na saaDhi-aa sach na araaDhi-aa.

But one who speaks the Unspoken Speech, and remains balanced,

akath kathaa lay sam kar rahai.

O Nanak, attains the Lord, the Supreme Soul.

ta-o naanak aatam raam ka-o lahai.

"Where does this mind-elephant live? Where does the breath reside?

ih man maigal kahaa basee-alay kahaa basai ih pavnaa.

Where should the Shabad reside, so that the wanderings of the mind may cease?"

kahaa basai so sabad a-oDhoo taa ka-o chookai man kaa bhavnaa.

When the Lord blesses one with His Glance of Grace, he leads him to the True Guru. Then, this mind dwells in its own home within.

nadar karay taa satgur maylay taa nij ghar vaasaa ih man paa-ay.

When the individual consumes his egotism, he becomes immaculate, and his wandering mind is restrained.

aapai aap khaa-ay taa nirmal hovai Dhaavat varaj rahaa-ay.

"How can the root, the source of all be realized? How can the soul know itself? How can the sun enter into the house of the moon?"

ki-o mool pachhaanai aatam jaanai ki-o sas ghar soor samaavai.

The Gurmukh eliminates egotism from within; then, O Nanak, the sun naturally enters into the home of the moon.

gurmukh ha-umai vichahu khovai ta-o naanak sahj samaavai.

When the mind becomes steady and stable, it abides in the heart, and then the Gurmukh realizes the root, the source of all.

ih man nihchal hirdai vasee-alay gurmukh mool pachhaan rahai.

The breath is seated in the home of the navel; the Gurmukh searches, and finds the essence of reality.

naabh pavan ghar aasan baisai gurmukh khojat tat lahai.

This Shabad permeates the nucleus of the self, deep within, in its own home; the Light of this Shabad pervades the three worlds.

so sabad nirantar nij ghar aachhai taribhavan jot so sabad lahai.

The Gurmukh knows the unstruck sound current of the Bani; how rare are those who understand.

anhad banee gurmukh jaanee birlo ko arthaavai.

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Ang 946

Without the True Name, no one can become pure; O Nanak, this is the Unspoken Speech.

saach binaa soochaa ko naahee naanak akath kahaanee.

One who becomes Gurmukh contemplates the essence of spiritual wisdom; through the Shabad, he burns away his egotism.

gurmukh hovai so gi-aan tat beechaarai ha-umai sabad jalaa-ay.

His body and mind become immaculate, through the Immaculate Bani of the Word. He remains absorbed in Truth.

tan man nirmal nirmal banee saachai rahai samaa-ay.

Through the Naam, the Name of the Lord, he remains detached; he enshrines the True Name in his heart.

naamay naam rahai bairaagee saach rakhi-aa ur Dhaaray.

The Gurmukh is one who reflects upon the True Word of the Shabad.

gurmukh saach sabad beechaarai ko-ay.

The True Bani is revealed to the Gurmukh.

gurmukh sach banee pargat ho-ay.

The mind of the Gurmukh is drenched with the Lord`s Love, but how rare are those who understand this.

gurmukh man bheejai virlaa boojhai ko-ay.

The Gurmukh dwells in the home of the self, deep within.

gurmukh nij ghar vaasaa ho-ay.

without meeting the True Guru, no one is liberated.

bin satgur bhaytay mukat na ko-ee.

Without meeting the True Guru, the Naam cannot be found.

bin satgur bhaytay naam paa-i-aa na jaa-ay.

The Gurmukh conquers his mind by subduing his ego.

gurmukh man jeetaa ha-umai maar.

This is the essence of the Shabad - listen, you hermits and Yogis. Without the Name, there is no Yoga.

sabdai kaa nibayrhaa sun too a-oDhoo bin naavai jog na ho-ee.

Those who are attuned to the Name, remain intoxicated night and day; through the Name, they find peace.

Naamay raatay an-din maatay naamai tay sukh ho-ee.

Through the Name, everything is revealed; through the Name, understanding is obtained.

naamai hee tay sabh pargat hovai naamay sojhee paa-ee.

Without the Name, people wear all sorts of religious robes; the True Lord Himself has confused them.

bin naavai bhaykh karahi bahutayray sachai aap khu-aa-ee.

The Name is obtained only from the True Guru, O hermit, and then, the Way of Yoga is found.

satgur tay naam paa-ee-ai a-oDhoo jog jugat taa ho-ee.

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Ang 948 Guru Amar Das Ji:

How can this mind be conquered? How can it be killed?
ki-o kar ih man maaree-ai ki-o kar mirtak ho-ay.

If one does not accept the Word of the Shabad, egotism does not depart.
kahi-aa sabad na maan-ee ha-umai chhadai na ko-ay.

By Guru`s Grace, egotism is eradicated, and then, one is Jivan Mukta - liberated while yet alive.
gur parsaadee ha-umai chhutai jeevan mukat so ho-ay.

O Nanak, one whom the Lord forgives is united with Him, and then no obstacles block his way.
naanak jis no bakhsay tis milai tis bighan na laagai ko-ay.

Everyone can say that they are dead while yet alive; how can they be liberated while yet alive?
jeevat marnaa sabh ko kahai jeevan mukat ki-o ho-ay.

If someone restrains himself through the Fear of God, and takes the medicine of the Love of God,
bhai kaa sanjam jay karay daaroo bhaa-o laa-ay-ay.

night and day, he sings the Glorious Praises of the Lord. In celestial peace and poise, he crosses over the poisonous, terrifying world-ocean, through the Naam, the Name of the Lord.
an-din gun gaavai sukh sehjay bikh bhavjal naam taray-ay.

O Nanak, the Gurmukh finds the Lord; he is blessed with His Glance of Grace.
naanak gurmukh paa-ee-ai jaa ka-o nadar karay-i.

Ang 953 Guru Nanak Dev Ji :

He alone is an Udasi, a shaven-headed renunciate, who embraces renunciation.
so udaasee je paalay udaas.

He sees the Immaculate Lord dwelling in both the upper and lower regions.
araDh uraDh karay niranjan vaas.

He balances the sun and the moon energies.
chand sooraj kee paa-ay gandh.

In the Tenth Gate, the sky of the mind, he erects his pillar.
gagan mandal meh ropai thamm.

Night and day, he remains in deep inner meditation.
ahinis antar rahai Dhi-aan.

Throughout existence and non-existence, there is only the Name of the One Lord.
aasat naasat ayko naa-o.

What is that Word, which holds the heart in its place?
ka-un so akhar jit rahai hi-aa-o.

When you look alike (balance) upon sunshine and shade,
Dhoop chhaav jay sam kar sahai.

says Nanak, then the Guru will speak to you.
taa naanak aakhai gur ko kahai.

That alone is said to be the Lord`s temple, where the Lord is known.
har mandar so-ee aakhee-ai jithahu har jaataa.

In the human body, the Guru`s Word is found, when one understands that the Lord, the Supreme Soul, is in all.
maanas dayh gur bachnee paa-i-aa sabh aatam raam pachhaataa.

Don`t look for Him outside your self. The Creator, the Architect of Destiny, is within the home of your own heart.
baahar mool na khojee-ai ghar maahi biDhaataa.

The self-willed manmukh does not appreciate the value of the Lord`s temple; they waste away and lose their lives.
manmukh har mandar kee saar na jaannee tinee janam gavaataa.

The One Lord is pervading in all; through the Word of the Guru`s Shabad, He can be found.
sabh meh ik varatdaa gur sabdee paa-i-aa jaa-ee.

Ang 954 Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji

He alone is victorious, who believes in the Lord`s Name.

mannay naa-o so-ee jin jaa-ay.

No other action is of any account.

a-uree karam na laykhai laa-ay.

WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru

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Ang 954 by Sri Guru Angad Dev Ji:

The fortress of the body has nine gates; the tenth gate is kept hidden.

na-o darvaajay kaa-i-aa kot hai dasvai gupat rakheejai.

The rigid door is not open; only through the Word of the Guru`s Shabad can it be opened.

bajar kapaat na khulnee gur sabad khuleejai.

The unstruck sound current resounds and vibrates there. The Word of the Guru`s Shabad is heard.

anhad vaajay Dhun vajday gur sabad suneejai.

Deep within the nucleus of the heart, the Divine Light shines forth. Through devotional worship, one meets the Lord.

tit ghat antar chaannaa kar bhagat mileejai.

The One Lord is pervading and permeating all. He Himself created the creation.

sabh meh ayk varatdaa jin aapay rachan rachaa-ee.

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I was reading the following pangti's on Ang 834 and it reminded me of this guidance I once heard.

Only the Creator Lord Himself knows the state and condition of everyone; the Lord Himself makes all the arrangements.

har gat mit kartaa aapay jaanai sabh biDh har har aap bana-ee-aa.

The treasure of jewels is found in the ocean of the Guru`s Teachings. The treasure of devotional worship is opened to me.

ratan padaarath gurmat paavai saagar bhagat bhandaar khulH-ee-aa.

This body is the field of karma; the Gurmukhs plow and work it, and harvest the essence.

ih sareer karam kee Dhartee gurmukh math math tat kadha-ee-aa.

The priceless jewel of the Naam becomes manifest, and it pours into their vessels of love.

laal javayhar naam pargaasi-aa bhaaNdai bhaa-o pavai tit a-ee-aa.

Become the slave of the slave of the slave, of that humble being who has become the devotee of the Lord.

daasan daas daas ho-ay rahee-ai jo jan raam bhagat nij bha-ee-aa.

I dedicate my mind and intellect, and place them in offering before my Guru; by Guru`s Grace, I speak the Unspoken.

man buDh arap Dhara-o gur aagai gur parsaadee mai akath katha-ee-aa.

The self-willed manmukhs are engrossed in attachment to Maya; their minds are thirsty, burning with desire.

manmukh maa-i-aa mohi vi-aapay ih man tarisnaa jalat tikha-ee-aa.

Following the Guru`s Teachings, I have obtained the Ambrosial Water of the Naam, and the fire has been put out. The Word of the Guru`s Shabad

has put it out.

gurmat naam amrit jal paa-i-aa agan bujhee gur sabad bujha-ee-aa.

This mind dances before the True Guru. The unstruck sound current of the Shabad resounds, vibrating the celestial melody of the horn.

ih man naachai satgur aagai anhad sabad Dhun toor vaja-ee-aa.

The instruction went something along the lines:

Think of the mind as field and the weeds are your thoughts. Your job is simply to use the Gurmantar as the folk and your breath the action of pushing the folk in and out. Keep digging out those weeds and clean the field and keep it weed free. The seeds of the anhad shabad which Waheguru has already planted within you just needs to be given the opportunity to sprout. Like a farmer tending to his field everyday you must also do this as much as possible.

This is more like it:

Ang 955 by Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji

Make the Fear of God the farm, purity the water, truth and contentment the cows and bulls,

bha-o bhu-ay pavit paanee sat santokh balayd.

humility the plow, consciousness the plowman, remembrance the preparation of the soil, and union with the Lord the planting time.

hal halaymee haalee chit chaytaa vatar vakhat sanjog.

Let the Lord`s Name be the seed, and His Forgiving Grace the harvest. Do this, and the whole world will seem false.

naa-o beej bakhsees bohal dunee-aa sagal darog.

O Nanak, if He bestows His Merciful Glance of Grace, then all your separation will be ended.

naanak nadree karam ho-ay jaaveh sagal vijog.

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Things get really interesting from Ang 968.. Bhagat Kabeer Ji explains how he met Waheguru.

Make your body the vat, and mix in the yeast. Let the Word of the Guru`s Shabad be the molasses.

kaa-i-aa kalaalan laahan mayla-o gur kaa sabad gurh keen ray.

Cut up desire, sexuality, anger, pride and envy, and let them be the fermenting bark.

tarisnaa kaam kroDh mad matsar kaat kaat kas deen ray.

Is there any Saint, with intuitive peace and poise deep within, unto whom I might offer my meditation and austerities as payment?

ko-ee hai ray sant sahj sukh antar jaa ka-o jap tap day-o dalaalee ray.

I dedicate my body and mind to whoever gives me even a drop of this wine from such a vat. ||1||Pause||

ayk boond bhar tan man dayva-o jo mad day-ay kalaalee ray. rahaa-o.

I have made the fourteen worlds the furnace, and I have burnt my body with the fire of God.

bhavan chatur das bhaathee keenHee barahm agan tan jaaree ray.

My mudra - my hand-gesture, is the pipe; tuning into the celestial sound current within, the Shushmanaa - the central spinal channel, is my cooling pad.

mudraa madak sahj Dhun laagee sukhman pochanhaaree

Pilgrimages, fasting, vows, purifications, self-discipline, austerities and breath control through the sun and moon channels - all these I pledge.

tirath barat naym such sanjam rav sas gahnai day-o ray.

My focused consciousness is the cup, and the Ambrosial Nectar is the pure juice. I drink in the supreme, sublime essence of this juice.

surat pi-aal suDhaa ras amrit ayhu mahaa ras pay-o ray.

The pure stream constantly trickles forth, and my mind is intoxicated by this sublime essence.

nijhar Dhaar chu-ai at nirmal ih ras manoo-aa raato ray.

Says Kabeer, all other wines are trivial and tasteless; this is the only true, sublime essence.

kahi kabeer saglay mad chhoochhay ihai mahaa ras saacho ray.

Make spiritual wisdom the molasses, meditation the flowers, and the Fear of God the fire enshrined in your mind.

gurh kar gi-aan Dhi-aan kar mahoo-aa bha-o bhaathee man Dhaaraa.

The Shushmanaa, the central spinal channel, is intuitively balanced, and the drinker drinks in this wine.

sukhman naaree sahj samaanee peevai peevanhaaraa.

When that wine rises up, one tastes the sublime essence of this juice, and sees across the three worlds. Pause

unmad chadhaa madan ras chaakhi-aa taribhavan bha-i-aa uji-aaraa. rahaa-o.

Joining the two channels of the breath, I have lit the furnace, and I drink in the supreme, sublime essence.

du-ay pur jor rasaa-ee bhaathee pee-o mahaa ras bhaaree.

I have burnt both sexual desire and anger, and I have been emancipated from the world.

kaam kroDh du-ay kee-ay jalaytaa chhoot ga-ee sansaaree.

The light of spiritual wisdom enlightens me; meeting with the Guru, the True Guru, I have obtained this understanding.

pargat pargaas gi-aan gur gammit satgur tay suDh paa-ee.

Slave Kabeer is intoxicated with that wine, which never wears off.

daas kabeer taas mad maataa uchak na kabhoo jaa-ee.

One who takes pride in himself is stuck with thorns; no one can pull them out.

karai gumaan chubheh tis soolaa ko kaadhan ka-o naahee.

Here, he cries bitterly, and hereafter, he burns in the most hideous hell.

ajai so chobh ka-o bilal bilaatay narkay ghor pachaahee.

What is hell, and what is heaven? The Saints reject them both.

kavan narak ki-aa surag bichaaraa santan do-oo raaday.

I have no obligation to either of them, by the Grace of my Guru.

ham kaahoo kee kaan na kadh-tay apnay gur parsaaday.

Now, I have mounted to the throne of the Lord; I have met the Lord, the Sustainer of the World.

ab ta-o jaa-ay chadhay singhaasan milay hai saringpaanee.

The Lord and Kabeer have become one. No one can tell them apart.

raam kabeeraa ayk bha-ay hai ko-ay na sakai pachhaanee.

I am a dog at Your Court, Lord.
ham kookar tayray darbaar.

I open my snout and bark before it. Pause
bha-ukahi aagai badan pasaar.

Ang 970

The celestial sound current resounds at Your Door. Your insignia is stamped upon my forehead.

tayray du-aarai Dhun sahj kee maathai mayray dagaa-ee.

Those who are branded with Your brand fight bravely in battle; those without Your brand run away.

daagay hohi so ran meh joojheh bin daagay bhag jaa-ee.

One who becomes a Holy person, appreciates the value of devotional worship to the Lord. The Lord places him in His treasury.

saaDhoo ho-ay so bhagat pachhaanai har la-ay khajaanai paa-ee.

In the fortress is the chamber; by contemplative meditation it becomes the supreme chamber.

kothray meh kothree param kothee beechaar.

The Guru has blessed Kabeer with the commodity, saying, "Take this commodity; cherish it and keep it secure."

gur deenee basat kabeer ka-o layvhu basat samHaar.

Kabeer gives it to the world, but he alone receives it, upon whose forehead such destiny is recorded.

kabeer dee-ee sansaar ka-o leenee jis mastak bhaag.

Permanent is the marriage, of one who receives this ambrosial essence.

amrit ras jin paa-i-aa thir taa kaa sohaag.

Why, O my Brahmin, do you not chant the Lord`s Name?

kaahay mayray baamHan har na kaheh.

Chanting the Lord`s Name, I have been saved; relying on the Vedas, O Brahmin, you shall drown and die.
hamray raam naam kahi ubray bayd bharosay paaNdaydoob mareh.

There is a single tree, with countless branches and twigs; its flowers and leaves are filled with its juice.
tarvar ayk anant daar saakhaa puhap patar ras bharee-aa.

This world is a garden of Ambrosial Nectar. The Perfect Lord created it.

ih amrit kee baarhee hai ray tin har poorai karee-aa.

I have come to know the story of my Sovereign Lord.

jaanee jaanee ray raajaa raam kee kahaanee.

How rare is that Gurmukh who knows, and whose inner being is illumined by the Lord`s Light. Pause

antar jot raam pargaasaa gurmukh birlai jaanee.rahaa-o.

The bumble bee, addicted to the nectar of the twelve-petalled flowers (Anahat/heart Chakkar), enshrines it in the heart.

bhavar ayk puhap ras beeDhaa baarah lay ur Dhari-aa.

He holds his breath suspended in the sixteen-petalled (Vishudda Chakkar/Throat Chakra ) sky of the Akaashic Ethers, and beats his wings in esctasy.

sorah maDhay pavan jhakori-aa aakaasay far fari-aa.

In the profound void of intuitive Samaadhi, the one tree rises up; it soaks up the water of desire from the ground.

sahj sunn ik birvaa upji-aa Dhartee jalhar sokhi-aa.

Says Kabeer, I am the servant of those who have seen this celestial tree.

kahi kabeer ha-o taa kaa sayvak jin ih birvaa daykhi-aa.

Make silence your ear-rings, and compassion your wallet; let meditation be your begging bowl.

mundraa mon da-i-aa kar jholee patar kaa karahu beechaar ray.

Sew this body as your patched coat, and take the Lord`s Name as your support.

khinthaa ih tan see-a-o apnaa naam kara-o aaDhaar ray.

Practice such Yoga, O Yogi.

aisaa jog kamaavahu jogee.

As Gurmukh, enjoy meditation, austerities and self-discipline.Pause

jap tap sanjam gurmukh bhogee. rahaa-o.

Apply the ashes of wisdom to your body; let your horn be your focused consciousness.

buDh bibhoot chadhaava-o apunee singee surat milaa-ee.

Become detached, and wander through the city of your body; play the harp of your mind.

kar bairaag fira-o tan nagree man kee kinguree bajaa-ee.

Enshrine the five tatvas - the five elements, within your heart; let your deep meditative trance be undisturbed.

panch tat lai hirdai raakho rahai niraalam taarhee.

Says Kabeer, listen, O Saints: make righteousness and compassion your garden.

kahat kabeer sunhu ray santahu Dharam da-i-aa kar baarhee.

God is the boat to carry you across the terrifying world-ocean; He is the Fulfiller of the mind`s desires. You have not centered your mind on Him, even for an instant.

bhav niDh taran taaran chintaaman ik nimakh na ih man laa-i-aa.

Ang 971

O Lord of the Universe, I am such a sinner!

gobind ham aisay apraaDhee.

God gave me body and soul, but I have not practiced loving devotional worship to Him. ||1||Pause||

jin parabh jee-o pind thaa dee-aa tis kee bhaa-obhagat nahee saaDhee. ||1|| rahaa-o.

Others` wealth, others` bodies, others` wives, others` slander and others` fights - I have not given them up.

par Dhan par tan par tee nindaa par apbaad na chhootai.

For the sake of these, coming and going in reincarnation happens over and over again, and this story never ends.

aavaa gavan hot hai fun fun ih parsang na tootai.

Remembering Him in meditation, the door of liberation is found.

jih simran ho-ay mukat du-aar.

In the home of the Fearless Lord, the celestial trumpets resound.

nirbha-o kai ghar bajaaveh toor.

The unstruck sound current will vibrate and resonate forever.
anhad bajeh sadaa bharpoor.

Practice such meditative remembrance in your mind.

aisaa simran kar man maahi.

Without this meditative remembrance, liberation will never be found. Pause

bin simran mukat kat naahi. rahaa-o.

You will be liberated, and the great load will be taken away.

mukat karai utrai baho bhaar.

Bow in humility within your heart,

namaskaar kar hirdai maahi.

and you will not have to be reincarnated over and over again.

fir fir tayraa aavan naahi.

Remember Him in meditation, celebrate and be happy.

jih simran karahi too kayl.

God has placed His lamp deep within you, which burns without any oil.

deepak baaNDh Dhari-o bin tayl.

That lamp makes the world immortal;

so deepak amrak sansaar

it conquers and drives out the poisons of sexual desire and anger.

kaam kroDh bikh kaadheelay maar.

Remembering Him in meditation, you shall obtain salvation.

jih simran tayree gat ho-ay.

Wear that meditative remembrance as your necklace.

so simran rakh kanth paro-ay.

Practice that meditative remembrance, and never let it go.

so simran kar nahee raakh utaar.

By Guru`s Grace, you shall cross over.

gur parsaadee utreh paar.

Remembering Him in meditation, you shall not be obligated to others.

jih simran naahee tuhi kaan.

You shall sleep in your mansion, in blankets of silk.

mandar soveh patambar taan.

Your soul shall blossom forth in happiness, on this comfortable bed.

sayj sukhaalee bigsai jee-o.

So drink in this meditative remembrance, night and day.

so simran too an-din pee-o.

Remembering Him in meditation, your troubles will depart.

jih simran tayree jaa-ay balaa-ay.

Remembering Him in meditation, Maya will not bother you.

jih simran tujh pohai na maa-ay.

Meditate, meditate in remembrance on the Lord, Har, Har, and sing His Praises in your mind.

simar simar har har man gaa-ee-ai.

This meditative remembrance is obtained from the True Guru.

ih simran satgur tay paa-ee-ai.

Forever and ever, remember Him, day and night,

sadaa sadaa simar din raat.

while standing up and sitting down, with every breath and morsel of food.

oothat baithat saas giraas.

While awake and asleep, enjoy the essence of this meditative remembrance.

jaag so-ay simran ras bhog.

The Lord`s meditative remembrance is obtained by good destiny.

har simran paa-ee-ai sanjog.

Remembering Him in meditation, you shall not be loaded down.

jih simran naahee tujh bhaar.

Make this meditative remembrance of the Lord`s Name your Support.

so simran raam naam aDhaar.

Says Kabeer, He has no limits;

kahi kabeer jaa kaa nahee ant.

no tantras or mantras can be used against Him.

tis kay aagay tant na mant.

Ang 972

When I came to understand this mind, from the tips of my toes to the crown of my head,

jab nakh sikh ih man cheenHaa.

then I took my cleansing bath, deep within my self.

tab antar majan keenHaa.

The mind, the master of the breath, abides in the state of supreme bliss.

pavanpat unman rahan kharaa.

Turning away from materialism, I have found intuitive support.

ultee lay sakat sahaaraN.

I have entered into the sky of the mind, and opened the Tenth Gate.

paiseelay gagan majhaaraN.

The chakras of the coiled Kundalini energy have been opened,

bayDhee-alay chakar bhuangaa.

and I have met my Sovereign Lord King without fear.

bhaytee-alay raa-ay nisangaa.

My attachment to Maya has been eradicated;

chookee-alay moh ma-i-aasaa.

the moon energy has devoured the sun energy.

sas keeno soor giraasaa.

When I was focused and merged into the all-pervading Lord, (Isn't kumbhak holding one's breath)

jab kumbhak bharipur leenaa.

then the unstruck sound current began to vibrate.

tah baajay anhad beenaa.

The Speaker has spoken, and proclaimed the Word of the Shabad.

baktai bak sabad sunaa-i-aa.

The hearer has heard, and enshrined it in the mind.

suntai sun man basaa-i-aa.

Chanting to the Creator, one crosses over.

kar kartaa utras paaraN.

Says Kabeer, this is the essence.

kahai kabeeraa saaraN.

The moon and the sun are both the embodiment of light. (Left/Right eyes are both embodiement of light)

chand sooraj du-ay jot saroop.

Within their light, is God, the incomparable.

jotee antar barahm anoop.

O spiritual teacher, contemplate God.

kar ray gi-aanee barahm beechaar.

In this light is contained the expanse of the created universe. Pause

jotee antar Dhari-aa pasaar. rahaa-o.

Gazing upon the diamond, I humbly salute this diamond.

heeraa daykh heeray kara-o aadays.

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Ang 973

Bhagat Naam DevJi's approach

In the imperishable realm of the Formless Lord, I play the flute of the unstruck sound current.

akhand mandal nirankaar meh anhad bayn bajaav-ogo.

Becoming detached, I sing the Lord`s Praises.

bairaagee raameh gaav-ogo.

Imbued with the unattached, unstruck Word of the Shabad, I shall go to the home of the Lord, who has no ancestors.
Pause

sabad ateet anaahad raataa aakul kai ghar jaa-ugo. rahaa-o.

Then, I shall no longer control the breath through the energy channels of the Ida, Pingala and Shushmanaa. (I think it should translate as hold the breath in the confluenance of the irha pingulaa or sukhmanaa)

irhaa pingulaa a-or sukhmanaa pa-unai banDh rahaa-ugo.

I look upon both the moon and the sun as the same, and I shall merge in the Light of God. (I wonder if he means he is balancing his vision by turning the eyes inwards between the moon/left eye and sun/right eye to reveal the divine light or he is balancing the breath in both left and right channels . Sant Baba Isher Singh (Rare Wale) also stated that the last stage is to concentrate on the tip of the nose, when the naam is properly heard, which would also balance the both eyes and you will gain divine vision)

chand sooraj du-ay sam kar raakha-o barahm jot mil jaa-ugo.

Control of the breath and positioning of the tongue, focusing at the third eye and wearing malas of tulsi beads, are all obtained through Guru`s Grace.

khaychar bhoochar tulsee maalaa gur parsaadee paa-i-aa.

Edited June 14, 2013 by Sat1176

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Bhagat Baynee now gives his experience on Ang 974

The energy channels of the Ida, Pingala and Shushmanaa: these three dwell in one place.

irhaa pingulaa a-or sukhmanaa teen baseh ik thaa-ee.

This is the true place of confluence of the three sacred rivers: this is where my mind takes its cleansing bath.

baynee sangam tah piraag man majan karay tithaa-ee.

O Saints, the Immaculate Lord dwells there;

santahu tahaa niranjan raam hai.

how rare are those who go to the Guru, and understand this.

gur gam cheenai birlaa ko-ay.

The all-pervading immaculate Lord is there. Pause

tahaaN niranjan rama-ee-aa ho-ay. Rahaa-o

What is the insignia of the Divine Lord`s dwelling?

dayv sathaanai ki-aa neesaanee.

The unstruck sound current of the Shabad vibrates there.

tah baajay sabad anaahad banee.

There is no moon or sun, no air or water there.

tah chand na sooraj pa-un na paanee.

The Gurmukh becomes aware, and knows the Teachings.

saakhee jaagee gurmukh jaanee.

Spiritual wisdom wells up, and evil-mindedness departs;

upjai gi-aan durmat chheejai.

the nucleus of the mind sky is drenched with Ambrosial Nectar.

amrit ras gagnantar bheejai.

One who knows the secret of this device,

ays kalaa jo jaanai bhay-o.

meets the Supreme Divine Guru.
bhaytai taas param gurday-o.

The Tenth Gate is the home of the inaccessible, infinite Supreme Lord.

dasam du-aaraa agam apaaraa param purakh kee ghaatee.

Above the store is a niche, and within this niche is the commodity.

oopar haat haat par aalaa aalay bheetar thaatee.

One who remains awake, never sleeps (mind totally locked on the naam).

jaagat rahai so kabahu na sovai.

The three qualities and the three worlds vanish, in the state of Samaadhi.

teen tilok samaaDh palovai.

He takes the Beej Mantra, the Seed Mantra, and keeps it in his heart.

beej mantar lai hirdai rahai.

Turning his mind away from the world, he focuses on the cosmic void of the absolute Lord.

manoo-aa ulat sunn meh gahai.

He remains awake, and he does not lie.

jaagat rahai na alee-aa bhaakhai.

He keeps the five sensory organs under his control.

paacha-o indree bas kar raakhai.

He cherishes in his consciousness the Guru`s Teachings.

gur kee saakhee raakhai cheet.

He dedicates his mind and body to the Lord`s Love.

man tan arpai krisan pareet.

He considers his hands to be the leaves and branches of the tree.

kar palav saakhaa beechaaray.

He plugs up the source of the river of evil tendencies. (What/where is the Asur Nadee?)

asur nadee kaa banDhai mool.

Turning away from the west, he makes the sun rise in the east.

pachhim fayr charhaavai soor.

He bears the unbearable, and the drops trickle down within;

ajar jarai so nijhar jharai.

then, he speaks with the Lord of the world.

jagannaath si-o gosat karai

The four-sided lamp illuminates the Tenth Gate.

cha-umukh deevaa jot du-aar.

The Primal Lord is at the center of the countless leaves.

paloo anat mool bichkaar.

He Himself abides there with all His powers.

sarab kalaa lay aapay rahai.

He weaves the jewels into the pearl of the mind.

man maanak ratnaa meh guhai.

The lotus is at the forehead, and the jewels surround it.

mastak padam du-aalai manee.

Within it is the Immaculate Lord, the Master of the three worlds.

maahi niranjan taribhavan Dhanee.

The Panch Shabad, the five primal sounds, resound and vibrate their in their purity.

panch sabad nirmaa-il baajay.

The chauris - the fly brushes wave, and the conch shells blare like thunder.

dhulkay chavar sankh ghan gaajay.

The Gurmukh tramples the demons underfoot with his spiritual wisdom.

dal mal daatahu gurmukh gi-aan.

Baynee longs for Your Name, Lord.

baynee jaachai tayraa naam.

WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru

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Breathing technique give by Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji on Ang 991.

Heat up the sun energy of the right nostril, and cool down the moon energy of the left nostril; practicing this breath-control, bring them into perfect balance.
soor sar sos lai som sar pokh lai jugat kar marat so san-banDh keejai.

In this way, the fickle fish of the mind will be held steady; the swan-soul shall not fly away, and the body-wall will not crumble.
meen kee chapal si-o jugat man raakhee-ai udai nah hans nah kanDh chheejai.

You fool, why are you deluded by doubt?
moorhay kaa-ichay bharam bhulaa.

You do not remember the detached Lord of supreme bliss. Pause
nah cheeni-aa parmaanand bairaagee. rahaa-o

Seize and burn the unbearable; seize and kill the imperishable; leave behind your doubts, and then, you shall drink in the Nectar.
ajar gahu jaar lai amar gahu maar lai bharaat taj chhod ta-o api-o peejai.

In this way, the fickle fish of the mind will be held steady; the swan-soul shall not fly away, and the body-wall shall not crumble.
meen kee chapal si-o jugat man raakhee-ai udai nah hans nah kanDh chheejai.

Nanak humbly prays, if the Lord`s humble servant dwells upon Him, in his mind of minds, with his every breath, then he drinks in the Ambrosial Nectar.
bhanat naanak jano ravai jay har mano man pavan si-o amrit peejai.

In this way, the fickle fish of the mind will be held steady; the swan-soul shall not fly away, and the body-wall shall not crumble.
meen kee chapal si-o jugat man raakhee-ai udai nah hans nah kanDh chheejai.

Edited June 27, 2013 by Sat1176

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I doubt if this is related to simran/meditation but I've recently noticed that my blood pressure and gone on the low side. I actually got the machine to test the Mrs pressure. Her's turned out to be normal but mine was low... I've read meditation can help lower blood pressure which is probable if one has high bp, but what if one was already normal should you expect it to lower in that situation?

According to the site http://www.bloodpressureuk.org/BloodPressureandyou/Thebasics/Bloodpressurechart

An ideal reading should be between 120/80 and 90/60

• if your top number is 140 or more - then you may have high blood pressure, regardless of your bottom number.
• if your bottom number is 90 or more - then you may have high blood pressure, regardless your top number.
• if your top number is 90 or less - then you may have low blood pressure, regardless of your bottom number.
• if your bottom number is 60 or less - then you may have low blood pressure, regardless of your top number.

I'm getting readings of 110-120 on the upper number but in the low 50s for the bottom number.

Edited June 28, 2013 by Sat1176

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Breathing technique give by Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji on Ang 991.

Heat up the sun energy of the right nostril, and cool down the moon energy of the left nostril; practicing this breath-control, bring them into perfect balance.

soor sar sos lai som sar pokh lai jugat kar marat so san-banDh keejai.

In this way, the fickle fish of the mind will be held steady; the swan-soul shall not fly away, and the body-wall will not crumble.

meen kee chapal si-o jugat man raakhee-ai udai nah hans nah kanDh chheejai.

You fool, why are you deluded by doubt?

moorhay kaa-ichay bharam bhulaa.

You do not remember the detached Lord of supreme bliss. Pause

nah cheeni-aa parmaanand bairaagee. rahaa-o

Seize and burn the unbearable; seize and kill the imperishable; leave behind your doubts, and then, you shall drink in the Nectar.

ajar gahu jaar lai amar gahu maar lai bharaat taj chhod ta-o api-o peejai.

In this way, the fickle fish of the mind will be held steady; the swan-soul shall not fly away, and the body-wall shall not crumble.

meen kee chapal si-o jugat man raakhee-ai udai nah hans nah kanDh chheejai.

Nanak humbly prays, if the Lord`s humble servant dwells upon Him, in his mind of minds, with his every breath, then he drinks in the Ambrosial Nectar.

bhanat naanak jano ravai jay har mano man pavan si-o amrit peejai.

In this way, the fickle fish of the mind will be held steady; the swan-soul shall not fly away, and the body-wall shall not crumble.

meen kee chapal si-o jugat man raakhee-ai udai nah hans nah kanDh chheejai.

I believe that Nanak ji is not recommending or suggesting the nostril practice.

The balance and steadiness can be obtained with normal 2 way nostril breathing!

Well, I wouldn't say that I have the same impression any longer !

I firmly believe that these jugtees and techniques can help us all.-as longer as we keep it within gurmat boundaries.

Edited February 8, 2014 by Lucky

[Sat1176]

I believe that Nanak ji is not recommending or suggesting the nostril practice.
The balance and steadiness can be obtained with normal 2 way nostril breathing!

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss such breathing techniques as it's entirely up to the individual to decide whether to try and use a technique or not. I recently browsed through another book by Sant Baba Waryam Singh where they explained another breathing/simran technique and even taught it as part of the Amrit Sanchar to amrit takers.

Divine Word Contemplation Path:
http://www.ratwarasahib.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=62&Itemid=94

Read from pages 431.

On page 436

We have instructed the 'Panj Piaras' (Five Beloved Ones) to give the lesson once to the 'amrit-takers'. If they are interested and inclined, they will start following this path. If they are not interested, it is their own sweet will. 'Amrit' is administered for this very purpose; brother, you have received the gift of the Name, now practice it.

I believe there must be some benefit in these method's otherwise they wouldn't have wasted their time mentioning it.

I think there are two schools of thought prevalent with regards to these practices. The Scholars view and the Bandigi Wale view. Those who want to progress just get on with it... Edited June 28, 2013 by Sat1176

[Lucky]

It's all about trying to keep your focus ''Within' yourself to keep the dhian on simran.

Yoga techniques can help in this sense by letting you use the gurmantar, dhian and listening to all the 'Within' that happens inside you.,,,

Edited March 9, 2014 by Lucky

[user2969]

The translation of the Shabad is incorrect in my view. Instead of being an indication towards usage of Pranayama the Shabad actually is a warning and a comment that pranayama can not lead you to union with Waheguru.

To understand the import of the Shabad one has to see that the Rahao lines are always the main theme and from them one can find out whats the correct Bhaav of the Shabad. The Rahao lines are:

ਮੂੜੇ ਕਾਇਚੇ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੁਲਾ ॥ ਨਹ ਚੀਨਿਆ ਪਰਮਾਨੰਦੁ ਬੈਰਾਗੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Oh fool why are you lost into this bharam (of pranayama)? By this way you have not realised (cheeneya) the Parmanand (Waheguru) by becoming a true bairagee.

Some points:

1. The lines have been addressed to a so called bairagi who has given up societal living and has spent time doing practices such as pranayama and other yogic techniques but has not been able to realize Waheguru yet.

2. There is a strong reprimand that the addressee has been indulging in something futle (which from the context one can see to be as pranayama).

3. It is also clearn that the way addressee has been going, on that way Parmanand cannot be cheeneya jaye (experienced or realized).

So what is the final word of Guru ji in this Shabad? It is in this line:

ਭਣਤਿ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਜਨੋ, ਰਵੈ ਜੇ ਹਰਿ ਮਨੋ, ਮਨ ਪਵਨ ਸਿਉ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਪੀਜੈ ॥

Sayeth Nanak Jan, if you remember the Hari in your mind, the mind shall drink Amrit along with Pawan (every breath/prana movement)

Some points:

1. The way to meet Waheguru according to Guruji is 'To Remember Waheguru within the Mind'.

2. If this is done, the mind shal drink Amrit with every pawan, every breath. This is indicating towards Swaas Swaas Simran, remembering Waheguru with every breath. This is the Bhagti Maarg! Remember Waheguru!

Here is a translation:

ਮਾਰੂ ਮਹਲਾ ੧ ॥

ਸੂਰ ਸਰੁ ਸੋਸਿ ਲੈ, ਸੋਮ ਸਰੁ ਪੋਖਿ ਲੈ, ਜੁਗਤਿ ਕਰਿ ਮਰਤੁ, ਸੁ ਸਨਬੰਧੁ ਕੀਜੈ ॥

Dry up the surya Saru/pond (fiery nature), fill up the moon pond(cool/shaant nature), with the Jugti (Swas swas simran, as pointed out in the final line) kill your ego, and this way establish a relationship with Waheguru

ਮੀਨ ਕੀ ਚਪਲ, ਸਿਉ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਮਨੁ ਰਾਖੀਐ, ਉਡੈ ਨਹ ਹੰਸੁ. ਨਹ ਕੰਧੁ ਛੀਜੈ ॥੧॥

With the Jugti (swas swas simran) the fish like movement of mind is stopped, the soul shall not fly away from Waheguru and the body shall not be ravaged by desires.

ਮੂੜੇ ਕਾਇਚੇ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੁਲਾ ॥ ਨਹ ਚੀਨਿਆ ਪਰਮਾਨੰਦੁ ਬੈਰਾਗੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

O fool why do you loose yourself in delusion (of pranayama)? You have not experience the Parmanand (Waheguru) by being a true Bairagee.

ਅਜਰ ਗਹੁ ਜਾਰਿ ਲੈ, ਅਮਰ ਗਹੁ ਮਾਰਿ ਲੈ, ਭ੍ਰਾਤਿ ਤਜਿ ਛੋਡਿ, ਤਉ ਅਪਿਉ ਪੀਜੈ ॥

(With the same Jugti) catch and burn the unburnable, catch and kill the deathless, leave aside all doubts, then you shall drink the Amrit.

ਮੀਨ ਕੀ ਚਪਲ, ਸਿਉ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਮਨੁ ਰਾਖੀਐ, ਉਡੈ ਨਹ ਹੰਸੁ, ਨਹ ਕੰਧੁ ਛੀਜੈ ॥੨॥

--as above--

ਭਣਤਿ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਜਨੋ, ਰਵੈ ਜੇ ਹਰਿ ਮਨੋ, ਮਨ ਪਵਨ ਸਿਉ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਪੀਜੈ ॥

Sayeth Nanak Jan, if you remember the Hari with (all) your mind, the mind shall drink Amrit along with Pawan (every breath/prana movement, swaas swaas simran)

ਮੀਨ ਕੀ ਚਪਲ, ਸਿਉ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਮਨੁ ਰਾਖੀਐ, ਉਡੈ ਨਹ ਹੰਸੁ, ਨਹ ਕੰਧੁ ਛੀਜੈ ॥੩॥੯॥
--as above--

Lastly I feel that this does not mean pranayama is something we should all run away from as being a sin. Its just that Guru Nanak's Bhagti Marg is Swas Swas simran and that Waheguru cannot be met by breath control. He can be met by Apaa Varna ( sacrificing oneself completely), by remembring Him all the time , every moment, and this is done through every Swaas.

[Lucky]

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Edited March 9, 2014 by Lucky

[Guest]

There is no point of taking breath if you are not reciting vahiguroo from gurmat shabad surat point of view but gurmat does not reject technique that attuning your mind towards breath is one of techniques as mind is totally connected with breath, one can hold its breath for 10 secs, one can notice mind is attuned in the breath for 10 secs...gurmat reject the mindset who wrap their head around it and think this is final aim. Anyway, these are just small techniques, gurmat provides cautions to practitioners stop wrap their head around them hence the above shabad...gurmat aim is provide individual full process towards liberation in stages- bhagti- sharda/prem//seva/gurbani satkar towards guru sahib, and use shabad surat to go in internally and after internally after dhyan turns into smadhi- gyan- nirvakalp samadhi- going towards atma-paratma milaap/self realization where there is nothing but advait sat chit anand saroop neither parnayam nor shabad surat- dasam dwar (shabad cease to exit only thing stages of nirgun-sargun gyan of shabad) third eye is our final destination they are only meant to be reference points in our journey not final destination.

[Sat1176]

Was just sitting relaxed on the sofa, mind was feeling real still with hardly any thoughts, just breathing slowly. Closed my eyes and looked straight ahead. Next thing I know the darkness is replaced with bright green light. Was much more prominent in the left eye. Never seen such a strong green colour in the darkness like that before.

Waheguru

Just wanted to add an important note to this stage. DO NOT LOOK at this colour, simply open the eyes and the colour we disappear. My mind is entering the stage of illusion to draw me in and distract me so to hinder the progress.

May Waheguru guide us all safely to his lotus feet.

[BhagatSingh]

I doubt if this is related to simran/meditation but I've recently noticed that my blood pressure and gone on the low side

Sat it is most definitely because you are relaxing the body so much in meditation. Lowered BP doesn't matter as long as there aren't any negative effects to your health/routine ie if you can function fine, you are fine. Thus no need to worry (well unless you want your BP to rise again then worrying will do that well ).

I believe that Nanak ji is not recommending or suggesting the nostril practice.

Lucky, in fact, He is suggesting this, as do other authors of SGGS like Sant Kabir, who also recommends breath control.

normal 2 way nostril breathing

The "normal 2 way nostril breathing" usually never happens since normally one of our nostrils is closed or obstructed and we are breathing through the other most of the time. The above mentioned practice helps to open up the both nostrils making breathing a bit easier and more balanced.

[BhagatSingh]

Just wanted to add an important note to this stage. DO NOT LOOK at this

colour, simply open the eyes and the colour we disappear. My mind is

entering the stage of illusion to draw me in and distract me so to

hinder the progress.

Sat if you had to do that then you were already distracted. Now if you feel like you need to do restart then that's fine, open your eyes, make it go away and restart. But you can also try to let it be there whilst you continue to focus on the mantra and practice being completely nonreactive to such distractions whilst being in their presence.

Now you say it is just a stage of illusion, have you studied it? is that a conclusion from knowing it? If not then to study it, what you can also do is when you start to meditate, right from the beginning have the intention of focusing on the green, and then when the green is there focus in on it, completely. Get it to know it.

Play around with different things. It's all just play anyways.

Edited July 2, 2013 by BhagatSingh

[Sat1176]

BhagatSingh, on 02 Jul 2013 - 09:21, said:

Sat if you had to do that then you were already distracted. Now if you feel like you need to do restart then that's fine, open your eyes, make it go away and restart. But you can also try to let it be there whilst you continue to focus on the mantra and practice being completely nonreactive to such distractions whilst being in their presence.

Now you say it is just a stage of illusion, have you studied it? is that a conclusion from knowing it? If not then to study it, what you can also do is when you start to meditate, right from the beginning have the intention of focusing on the green, and then when the green is there focus in on it, completely. Get it to know it.

Play around with different things. It's all just play anyways.

Due to my lack of experience in this stage of simran I sought guidance which I really don't want to elaborate upon on the internet.

But from the limited understanding I have gained these colours appear when the mind tries to cross the trikuti and the 5 elements.

Air - Green

Water - White

Fire - Red

Earth - Yellow

Ether/Space - Blue

During these stages one can come into contact with visions/forms etc which try and draw in the seeker to hinder the progress. It is not advisable to interact which such things. Our goal is to meet Waheguru nothing else no matter how attractive it may seem. That's what I been told and try to convince myself off along the way. Anyone can do what they wish but I believe if a person seeks guidance and you have faith/satkar for the person's experience and wisdom in such matters then you should follow their bachan's. I have been instructed not to look at it, so will not until instructed otherwise. Because in an earlier post I had wrote about the experience, being none the wiser I posted it. Now I know a little more I think it only right I clear up the mess so I don't lead someone astray. I'll be honest I will be reluctant to post personal experiences going forward, because I have no idea where i'm heading or what comes along the way. I don't want to be responsible for misleading people on a path which I'm not sure myself.

Bhagat Singh ji, from your posts I can tell your much further along and am grateful that you came on the thread with your views and words of encouragement even when I was doubting or questioning my own experiences. They have been reconfirmed as real and my doubt's that kept on creeping back eliminated. All I can trust at this stage is the gurmantar and the anhad shabad. Will continue to focus my attention on those and hope they take me home and leave the rest to the will of WaheGuru...

May Waheguru guide us all safely and correctly to his lotus feet.

As for the low BP I am feeling the effects in that my body sometimes feels very weak and tired. Could be due to the weight I seem to be putting on. I will monitor the situation and if it persists then I will visit the GP. But with his grace I hope the simran continues till it reaches the conclusion.... Naam di dhaat from Waheguru himself. (What ever form that may be...)

Edited July 2, 2013 by Sat1176

[Sat1176]

Just read the following shabad on Ang 1002. Guru Arjan Dev Ji reached the final destination...

I have quit searching outside; the Guru has shown me that God is within the home of my own heart.

baahar dhoodhan tay chhoot paray gur ghar hee maahi dikhaa-i-aa thaa.

I have seen God, fearless, of wondrous beauty; my mind shall never leave Him to go anywhere else.

anbha-o achraj roop parabh paykhi-aa mayraa man chhod na kathoo jaa-i-aa thaa.

I have found the jewel; I have found the Perfect Lord.

maanak paa-i-o ray paa-i-o har pooraa paa-i-aa thaa.

The invaluable value cannot be obtained; in His Mercy, the Guru bestows it. Pause

mol amol na paa-i-aa jaa-ee kar kirpaa guroo divaa-i-aa thaa. ||1|| rahaa-o.

The Supreme Lord God is imperceptible and unfathomable; meeting the Holy Saint, I speak the Unspoken Speech.

adisat agochar paarbarahm mil saaDhoo akath kathaa-i-aa thaa.

The unstruck sound current of the Shabad vibrates and resounds in the Tenth Gate; the Ambrosial Naam trickles down there.

anhad sabad dasam du-aar vaji-o tah amrit naam chu-aa-i-aa thaa.

I lack nothing; the thirsty desires of my mind are satisfied. The inexhaustible treasure has entered into my being.

tot naahee man tarisnaa boojhee akhut bhandaar samaa-i-aa thaa.

I serve the feet, the feet, the feet of the Guru, and manage the unmanageable. I have found the juice, the sublime essence.

charan charan charan gur sayvay agharh gharhi-o ras paa-i-aa thaa.

Intuitively I come, and intuively I go; my mind intuitively plays.

sehjay aavaa sehjay jaavaa sehjay man khaylaa-i-aa thaa.

Says Nanak, when the Guru drives out doubt, then the soul-bride enters the Mansion of the Lord`s Presence.

kaho naanak bharam gur kho-i-aa taa har mahlee mahal paa-i-aa thaa.

WaheGuru