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Yesterday as I was listening to kirtan very intently my mind sort of went blank the only thing that was in my mind was the kirtan everything else was dead it only lasted less than 5 seconds but felt very good there was also a warmth in my chest area as this was going on. Was there any spiritual significance behind this or do you guys think it was only my brain playing tricks on me has this happened to any of you?

It will take sometime for our community's collective consciousness to rise above from pendu/tribalism and go back to its puratan gursikh standards. This is from soraj parkash granth:
 

Gyani's lies are being caught out, but his radical chelas might as well join the Gurjinder Singh Brigade; beating up anyone who disagrees with them.

That is true,  Dasmesh Pita Ji commanded us to keep Khalsai Achaaran even in times of battle and warfare.  The acts of violence against women and children in 1947 is a permanent stain upon our history.

Being a moderator just means I moderate content so people don't use foul or abusive language. Nothing more than that.
Listen. Based on previous experiences with you, I am not convinced that you are interested in any form of debate. You only read what you want to read and don't appear to be willing to understand the view point of the other person..Our approach to debate and study is entirely different, hence I don't think it is fruitfull to discuss anything with you. You have previously written that your purpose of researching old granths is to 'find errors' and smash the arguments of others. Personally I dont find this approach fruitfull and I don't think we've ever had a fruitfull discussion because our premis of debate is too different. If you are interested in why I write the Prem Sumarag Granth is one of the most important books ever written in Sikh history, then ask why I say so. But what you're trying to do is to pull me into a Dasam Granth debate because it appears that the Dasam Granth is all you're interested in.  Thanks but no thanks.. I have a lot of friends who dont believe in the Dasam Granth, - we can easily engage in a respectfull debate even though we don't agree, but i've never experienced that to be the case with you... Personally I dont find this fruitfull. You have a very bad tendency of making enemies out of people for no reason , - i've experienced you going onto other websites writing trash about people and me, - why you do so I have no idea... Why talk trash about people just because you disagree with them?? I really don't understand this kind of behaviour and it has nothing to do with charchaa, khoj or vichaar.. I've been to Brussels, Belgium a few times on work visits, and thought of meeting up with you to discuss Sikhi and Gurmat but i'm not sure it would be fruitfull at all as you'll just start a fight for no reason. You put words into my mouth and then start attacking things i've never said. Like above - when did I say it's my absolute fave??
in fact... It would be much better if you participated in this debate by writing what your favorite book is, - instead you just wanna pull people's legs and discuss their opinons because you disagree with them.. You always do this - you don't reply to the topic at hand but rather go for the throat of the members because you believe they are wrong. How does that actually contribute to the topic that people wish to discuss? You've written three posts so far but havent contributed anything at all to discuss the vast and inspiring corpus of Sikhi literature.
I've given you credit for in the past, - you actually do raise very valid arguments at times, but your whole approach of aggresive discussion ruins any motivation for me to engage in any dialogue with you. When you make valid points you undermine your arguments by throwing personal attacks along the way.. Why would anyone acutally continue any debate further? At times in the past i've spend hours researching old books to find an answer to one of your arguments, - in some cases it is very interesting stuff you bring forward. But I have no motivation to actually do any vichaar with you afterwards with my findings because you're only interested in smashing people and destryoung arguments - Rather than engaging with texts which is our common heritage..So the arguments you use, I take them and discussed them with other of my well read anti-dasam granth friends to see how they understand these verses and how it fits with their own narrative, and how they relate to my arguments and readings of the very same verses. This is fruitfull.
Personally, I dont find your aggresive, competitive and destructive approach that appealing, but others might. So I permit your posts on the forum because other people might want to discuss with you.
You are actually very blessed and gifted with your 1) interest in old texts 2) ability to understand the language.. it's just a shame all of these merits are drowned in your aggresive behaviour of attacking people and talking shit about them on other websites... There is no need for this.
Now before you begin an aggressive auto-reply attack at me, try to read what I've actually written.
 
 

To add to the above: One can stay anonymous on this forum, therefore sharing personal spiritual experiences can encourage other people to do more meditation.
The bottom line is that one must eliminate any trace of pride, associated with spiritual experiences and stay humble.
 
Bhul chuk maaf

If KFC shuts because of this I am going to be so p***ed off.

I found the opposite to be true. I don't know what kooti type of apnay you've been around?

For the most part, in almost every professional job I've done, I've seen goray act polite and nice to ethnic men to their face and then involve themselves in all manner of stupidity to try and make their life harder or get them removed, due to racist petty jealousy. In contrast, an apna is generally thick brained and can't be bothered (or capable) of this type of thing and just blurts out the insult to you.

That's exactly what you are doing.
Here you are just restating the story and ideas you have read or heard without paying any attention to what they mean. That's not knowledge. Even a parrot can repeat what it heard. Knowledge is making the right connections between different things, not parroting the things you have heard or read.

Let's start over.

The basic story is -
Hiranyaksh took earth into primordial waters. Vishnu ji pulled it out of primordial waters.

Let's consider the word "primordial waters" - What do you think this means?

I don't know any answers to your questions but am very interested to know amore about your past lives. Can you reveal more please?

Lol nah, it was straight Drake lyrics. 

Wrong again bhondu.

Firstly it's very unlikely that any Sikh would become a Hindu although some through ignorance of Sikh teachings will take part in Hindu rituals. Even if one did it's very unlikely that Punjab would burn as you said but you are well known to make ignorant statements so there is nothing new here.

Vikram Singh Khalsa is just following the footsteps of those brave Hindus throughout history who in order to challenge tyranny and injustice joined the Khalsa Panth. The more docile and unadventurous Hindus remained Hindu. You are the progeny of that type of Hindu.