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I do not exactly know the answer, but I strongly feel it is in their genes, since so many centuries, mainly due to the root cause of their so called "beleifs", this diplomatic word is used in order to avoid the correct word for it, which maybe strong for some, and thus create conflicts.

We are all here to be helpful to each other as much as possible, keeping aside our differences, jealousies, short sightedness, ill thinking.... Then there will be only healthy relations, we all have one goal : Waheguru. That is it. We should never try to impose or manipulate anyone, conscioussly or unconscioussly, if anybody accepts our advise, is o.k; if not, it does not matter much, for we lose nothing. But we should never ever disrespect nor thrash anybody. I can proudly say, you are a good guy, with your behaviour, you are an example on this forum, and believe it, it is no free propaganda. Keep it up bro. SSA

Brother H908 Jee, It is true, Maharaj knows everything and controls everything in a way, but yes, it is we humans that we misbehave under the evil influences of the mind, and for that each one has to pay for. And if f that was the case of Maharaj, why does He allow eartquakes, and other alike disasters... He has given us sense, he has given us "budh" to use it, we just can not keep quite and say, well as Maharaj knows everything, let it happen.... Suppose, some thieves come at your home, and threat you, your wife or parents, will you keep quiet, or will you do all possible to face them and avoid that injustice? You see bro, we have to help as much as possible, to the weaker ones. For example, there is a tiger in a village, we all know that the tiger can come and eat us at any time. Or any of our neigbours, so what do the authorities do? They go and kill the tiger for the safety of the people. In a similar way, if we know who these bastards are, would it not be advisable to give them lifetime sentence .... When I said to gun them down, it was an allegory .... SSA

Soulfinder Jee, brother Ragmala has given a sound reply above as seen. Nobody can satisfy other´s hunger. If you are hungry, you have to eat and masticate the food morsels by yourself, in order to satisfy your hunger. In that respect, waheguru has kept within all of us in same measure, the wealth of Nam, it depends on each of us, as how much dhanvaan we want to become, by gathering that true wealth of Nam within us, to which there is no limitation, nor any taxation deducted by Kal upon that income. Sarb rog ka aukhad Nam. Do His chintan, His bhakti, as much as possible, and all our sins shall get washed gradually, thus our suffering will start diminishing. Remember our pain, our failures, our success, or be it any other thing, is due to our own karmas; but anyhow, the all mercifull Waheguru has also given us the medicine of His holy Name to be taken as much as possible, in order to nullify all our karmas. That is it brother, stay blessed. SSA.

Sorry Bro, usually I am quite peaceful, but when one sees so much crime and unjustice against the weak, our girls, our women, drugs, frauds, or be it any other unjustice, against anybody and anywhere, I just can not see it, it makes me temperamental, wanting to wipe out all these filthy worms. That is it. And why me alone, but I think anyone with just a little bit of heart and humanity, can easily get altered with these untjustices. We all know, there are a lot of cruel people out there in the world; but specially these ones, from the PLACE where they come from, it is like a factory of creating unending and shameless monsters-criminals in huge quantities ..... Just sickening and abhorrent. SSA

Just my 2 cents: Though the chaar padaraths are very well defined in the post above... and about the question of Sadh janaa kee seva laage... I think it refers to, as stated in the Bani also when Guru Jee says: Satgur kee seva safal hae, jeko karay chit laavay. Sadh Jan, are also advanced spiritual beings, of high avastha, who have reached that spiritual maturity, and have attained all that a jeev atma wants ast the physical level, which is to have all the 4 padarths achieved, and which can be fulfilled, by His grace, for He (as our mother or father) takes special care of these needs of His bhagat jan. He gives them inner satisfaction, so that do not feel perturbered , and continue with their Bhakti without fail. As the Bani says: Nanak dukheeya sabh snasaar, se sukheeya jin Nam adhaar. O Nanak, the whole world is in distress, is unhappy, only that being who holds on to Nam is truly happy... So naturally, the sewa which any true Sadh Jan, as well as Guru Sahiban will ever tell us to do, is the one of attaching our surtees with that Highest and ultimate Truth, the one of Nam, the one of Satnam, it can´t be any otherwise, look it from any perspective. SSA.

COVID 19, seen from a Buddhist perspective Disciple: Master, it is so difficult for me to understand that the Father has sent us such an aggressive virus. What is the purpose? Teacher: The Father does not command it. It allows it, which is different. The pandemic was generated by man through the constant violation of universal laws. Disciple: But something so bad, is going to cause a lot of destruction. Teacher: Coronavirus is not bad. It is not good either. It is necessary, it is different. There is nothing wrong with the universe. If the coronavirus is present it is because it is allowed by Divinity, or it could not exist. The idea of good and evil is generated in your mind that judges from its file of ignorance an event that in itself is neutral. Disciple: But so many people are being infected in the world, or are going to be left without even having anything to eat.... So many children, the elderly, men and women..... It is quite unfair. Teacher: The term unjust does not exist within universal love. That exists only in your mind that does not understand the purpose that is deep in it. What does exist is the just, the precise, the exact, the corresponding. There is a necessary evolutionary process that consists of a constant collection of information. A learning through facing the difficulties that life presents us, so that in the midst of the chaos and suffering that is generated, we discover the principle of love that is found in life itself. And this principle of love is what will free us from human limitations, and will make us correspond with experiences of much more satisfaction and harmony. You have to understand that nobody experiences an experience that does not correspond to him. And if it corresponds to him, he will live it, even when he struggles or resists. Coronavirus is not bad. It is very good, since many people are learning from it. The level of consciousness of the planet is rising, seeing us in the need to develop great tools of love such as acceptance, appreciation and adaptation. Patience, tolerance, and respect. It may be a difficult test, but it is not bad. You are growing thanks to it. If you stop seeing the coronavirus from your fears, and start to see it from your understanding, you will be able to recognize the value that there is in it. So you can pass this test that life is presenting to you. The decision is in you, and for that, life gave you a Free Will. You have been given the power to make decisions, and these will be respected by the entire universe. You can give a choice of fear, pride and ego. Or you can give it to love. The choice is yours. It's on you! What decision are you making? Did you choose fear, or love? The decision is yours, but it will have a result, which is also yours, and you will have to assume. If you decided on fear, you will generate destruction in your peace within, in your vital energy, in your relationships, and in your health. If you decided for love, you will pass the test that life is presenting to you, and you will no longer need to suffer again. Give love the option. The way is always love. Disciple: And what is giving the option to love? Teacher: - Become an imperturbable being. Invulnerable. Work on yourself, so that your peace and happiness do not depend on the external world. - Stop seeing problems, and start seeing opportunities that you can take advantage of to do the inner growth. - Develop acceptance. "Everything that happens is perfect, and if it exists and happens it is because it has a purpose." "Father, may your will be done, and not mine." "Show me how I can serve you better." - Learn to flow and adapt. Act wisely instead of reacting from fear. - Watch your thought so that it only vibrates in the frequency of love. This will bring you clarity of mind. - Do not share your fears with others. Share only your enthusiasm and your joy. - Watch your words. May your word create harmony, and make others feel confident and secure. Difficulties are not solved by fighting them. Befriend the coronavirus. Do not see it as a bad thing, but as something necessary. And talk to him: "What are you teaching me?" "You are valuable to me and I am willing to learn what you can teach me." "As soon as I learn you can leave because I will no longer need you." Take advantage of the opportunity that life is presenting to you right now, to do the interior job ... Unknown author.

It would be best to put all these bastards against a wall and fire them with a machine gun. They have no right to live, for as long as they are alive, they will continue with their atrocities against humanity.

1)You are most welcome Brother Jitsingh Gojra. 2) Sometime ago I read a story of Fith Patshahee´s childhood. Once He was playing with a ball, which rolled down under the bed of His nana Sri AmarDas Maharaj where He was sleeping. The "boy came and took the ball and went away, but somehow moved a bit the bed where Guru Jee was sleeping, so suddenly He woke up and asked His daughter what had happened as she was around, to which she told her Father what had exactly happened, upon hearing this, Sree Guru Amar Das Maharaj smiled and said, someday He will lift the world. By this we understand, that one day He will be Guru Sahiban. Maybe upon worldly and some other spheres, the students may surpass their teachers, but in the real spiritual realms and while talking about the highest level consciousness, such as Guru Sahiban, Gurmukh jan and Bhagat Jan, this is not the case, for all of them are as waves of that same Ocean, which regularly come to the seashore to pick up those little drops (souls) who are ready to return in the Father after fulfilling their true bhakti as per Gurbani, thus ready to merge in that their Origin Waheguru Akal Purukh. No drop can go and merge into the Ocean by itself, nor that huge Infinite can take those drops and merge into Itself, unless, that very Inmense Ocean becomes a wave first. The wave may seem apart from the Ocean for a time being, but actually it is not, for while being at the seashore, it has not cut off itself from that Ocean from which it has emerged, rather it is very much a part of that Ocean. That is why, that wave and those drops, which the wave has wrapped in itself, all together merge and become one with that Mighty Immense Ocean. Another example is, all these pure spiritual beings mentioned above have the same intensity of Jot of Waheguru in them, thus none is superior, all are same, they have the same wisdom, the same love and mercy of Waheguru in them. in this respect the Bani says: Guru meree pooja, Guru Gobind, Guru mera Parbrahm, Guru bhagwant. These spiritual Masters as Guru Sahiban, Gurmukhs and Bhagat Jan, out of His beant mercy, and under His Hukum, come for only one purpose, which is of awakening us from our deep lethargy of Maya and reveal us the mysteries of that one universal Supreme Truth, which is Nam/Shabad/Amrit Bani/ Anhad Naad.... all different terms, but pointers to that same eternal reality or Truth of Satnam. Regarding this One universal Supreme Truth the Bani tells us: ਨਾਮੁ ਵਿਸਾਰਿ ਚਲਹਿ ਅਨ ਮਾਰਗਿ ਅੰਤ ਕਾਲਿ ਪਛੁਤਾਹੀ ॥੭॥ Naam Visaar Chalehi An Maarag Anth Kaal Pashhuthaahee ||7|| Forgetting the Naam, the Name of the Lord, they walk on other paths, and at the very last moment, they regret and repent. ਤੀਰਥਿ ਭਰਮੈ ਰੋਗੁ ਨ ਛੂਟਸਿ ਪੜਿਆ ਬਾਦੁ ਬਿਬਾਦੁ ਭਇਆ ॥ Theerathh Bharamai Rog N Shhoottas Parriaa Baadh Bibaadh Bhaeiaa || Wandering around at sacred shrines of pilgrimage, the mortal is not cured of his disease. Reading scripture, he gets involved in useless arguments. Raag Bhaira-o Guru Nanak Dev ANG 1153 3) Christ said: I have come to collect the marked sheep by my Father. My sheep will recgnize my whistle. Sree Guru Nanak Dev tells us : bin bhaagaa satsang na paa-ee-ai, karam milai har naam haree. Without good destiny, the Sat Sangat, the True Congregation, is not obtained. By the grace of one's good karma, the Lord's Name is received. With this their Gurparsad of Guru Jee, we learn how to elevate and extrincate ourselves from the web of karmas, thus only becoming karmaless (whether good or bad ), can we ever merge in our Origin Satnam. 4,5,6) The soul can only know its true identity by elevating within and crossing the real of Brahm, after discarding its 3 coverings of physicl, astral and causal bodies, then the soul shines in its original form, and heads towards its origin Satnam to finally merge and become one with that One supreme and etrenal Truth. We are all spiritual adepts, whether a sadhoo or a heavy sinner, waheguru has kept the bhandaar of Namm within each and every being in the same measure, it is only neede to turn ourselves towards it, and taste that Amrit within us, in order to become pure paviter and be worthy to merge in Him. Guru Jee says: Nanak dukheeya sab sansaar, se sukheeya jin Nam adhaar. With this He means, anyone who meditates and attaches his/her surtee to Nam within, is the one really happy, otherwise all are under the laws of good and bad karmas. Good karmas are like golden chains around our necks, fot still we are prisoners in the mayavee creation. Bad karmas make us suffer already. So Guru Jee, teaches us, how to arise ourselves above karmas and become karmaless, while fulfilling our worldy duties, we are not to run at isolated places nor lock ourselves, but like swans, while being in the pond, they can fly at will. we too while living amidts the world and fullfiling our duties as parents, spouses, workers, etc, should engage in His loving meditation and be at His Lotus Feet, in order to remain detached from worldly entanglements and return back Home desireless. For desires are chains which pull us back into the creation again and again. 7) As said above, the creator of Karma is Kal Purukh. I would suggest you to read a magnificent book of Bhagat Kabir Sahib titled Anurag Sagar, you may find it on the net. It claerly deals with the all aspects of Creation, who is Satnam, Shabad, how Kal Purukh came into existence.... but in the end, it is would be better to say, He is the doer, He watches over His khel, but anyhow, we have nothing to do or look for the creator of karmas, but, look for only and only the Creator, Waheguru Akal Purukh. At our present level, even if were expalined the reasons of the creation, we would never understand, for the architect of all craetion is beyond the reach of mind/intellect, and maya, so better when we reach there we ask Him then, but for sure, for then, nobody would care for all thses answers, for we shall be one with His Hukum. Take care and stay blessed . SSA.

SOME REFLECTIONS Do not consider this as ISOLATION/Lockdown having to stay at home with whom we love. Isolation is what the seriously ill are experiencing in hospital. Stop saying that you are bored, upset that you can't leave the house; while everyone in the hospital wants to go home. So, thank God if you have to stay at home, because despite everything, with money or without money, with a job or without a job, you are in the best place you could be, at home, surrounded by who loves you! Perhaps it is time to transform your house into a wonderful place to stay, a place of peace and not of war, of embrace and not of distance. Anyway, look with different eyes at the situation you are experiencing !! Make your house a party: Listen to music, sing, dance...... Make your house a temple: Pray, pray, meditate, ask, thank, praise, plead ... Make your home a school: Read, write, draw, paint, study, learn, teach ... Make your house a store: Clean, order, organize, decorate, label, move, sell, donate ... Make your house a restaurant: cook, eat, try, create recipes, grow spices, plant a garden ... Anyway ... make your house, your family, a place of love." Make the best possible use of this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity....!

Well done. Congrats.

Pen Jee, be happy for Waheguru has raised your consciousnes/awareness. Do not waste any more time. Learn from your mistakes and move forward faithfully. If we are boolanhaar, He is sadah bakshanhaar. So take refuge in Him as soon as possible, and stay safe and cheerful at all times, this is His apaar wadeeayee. His holy Name, has 2 sided effects, first it cleans us by washing all our sins, and secondly at the same time attracts us towards Him as a magnet, thus we get closer and closer to Him. Stay blessed. SSA.

Welcome Jitsingh Gojra Ji, Just my 2 cents. Nothing happens without karma. Whether familiy, friends, foes, loss, gains, birth , death, everything happens with karma. There is although little free will. But this free will exercised will be added in our store karma, and will ripe whenever and wherever the wise Nature thinks fit. Our limited present is a tiny fraction made out from our total past, and also our limited present will be added in our karma storehouse. So this karma theory is the secret of maintaing the creation in motion, from which none can escape, not even avtars, gods, godesses, devis, devtays, nor trinities, shaktis..... Only Guru Sahiban, Gurmukhs, and Bhagat Jan of highest order, are the masters of the karmas with which they come at our human level, and the greatness about them unlike we moorakhs, is that they live accordingly and respecting the laws of Nature, they do not manipulate nor bribe anyone. Living in His will at all times, is their given Hukum. This is their apaar greatness, such is their sincere humility. Though the effects of karmas and vikars, are terrible upon all beings, yet Waheguru, from His infinte love and mercy for all jeevas, has also given us a shelter to minimize and overcome those horrible effects on the jeev atmas. But alas, nobody pays attention to it, though they may have memorized the Bani with each and every verse in it, but yet, they do not do, what the Bani, repeats constantly through out. One such descriptive verse is : AVAR KAAJ TERAY KITTAY NA KAAM, MIL SADH SANGAT BHAJ KEWAL NAM This is how, Kal, Maya and the mind, with its subordinates vikars, cheat the soul, making them believe, that whatsoever practices they are doing are very much accepted in His darbar, then again and again jeevas are dragged drowned into the endless cycles of births and deaths. You see, the main goal of sikhee is to set us free from all these dacoits mentioned above by defeating them with the sword of His Nao, and then go towards our origin Waheguru, just as bullet shot from a gun, to finally merge and become one with Him. That´s it. Seeing other souls, karmas, devis, devtays, trinities and whatsoever one wants, can be possible, for that, we have to arise to a certain conscious level within us. At our present level, we may be wanting all these things and find them logical to an extent, but that much can also be said, that once one engages in the devotion of His Nam bhakti, and as one progresses on that inner path towards our goal of Waheguru, by His kirpa, we start tasting the sweet Nectar of Immortality, or let us say Amrit Bani within us, and thus we want nothing, but Him only, just as a child lovingly and one pointedly "looks" at his Mother, for he knows nothing else besides his Mother. This is the state of a true gursikh, all his earthly wishes, queries, doubts, just desintegrate automatically, and one is left with only one burning desire, and that one is of the meeting as soon as possible with his beloved, Waheguru Akal Purukh. Stay blessed. SSA.

The main thing here is respect. Whether we agree on something or not, that should not be the base to laugh at someone or insult him/her. For once one bad word is said, that triggers more anger and hatred, then usually one loses the inner balance and is lost in nonsense. We are all members here, and absolutely all are respectable, right from A to Z. So please let us be careful, by addressing each other with utter respect, it costs nothing man. We need not agree with everyone, so what? Are we mad? I know there are people who are narcissist, or like bullying, creating conflicts, being negative, jealousy, short minded, to them, a request is placed to leave away, and let the rest of the members stay in peace and harmony. We all come here to share, and to learn something, so please let us behave. Being polite and respectful costs nothing, rather it strengthens human values. SSA

The Sound Current never stops, as we know it is also known as Anhad Bani, or Unstruck Melody/Sound Current, which means ringing non stop; Sound beyond measure. If ever we find it stopped, that for sure is that our attention or focus has slipped away. Otherwise the Sound and the Jot from that Shabad Dhun are always there, whether we are conscious or not, whether we see or not, whether we hear or not, but that Sound Current is always there, that is the wonder of wonders.....Waheguru Akal Purukh. SSA.

ਸੋਈ ਜਾਣੈ ਸੋਈ ਪਛਾਣੈ ਜਾ ਕਉ ਨਦਰਿ ਸਿਰੰਦੇ ॥ Soee Jaanai Soee Pashhaanai Jaa Ko Nadhar Sirandhae || He alone knows, and he alone understands, upon whom the Creator Lord bestows His Grace. ਮਨਮੁਖਿ ਭੂਲੀ ਬਹੁਤੀ ਰਾਹੀ ਫਾਥੀ ਮਾਇਆ ਫੰਦੇ ॥ Manamukh Bhoolee Bahuthee Raahee Faathhee Maaeiaa Fandhae || The self-willed manmukh wanders along many paths, and is trapped in the net of Maya. Raag Suhi Guru Arjan Dev *In the 2 verses above from the Bani, Guru Jee is telling us that man has no power to do anything right, unless He, Himself, blesses that wadbhagee jeeva with His kirpa to act accordingly.