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​I never said that taking amrit is the last step, but it is a mandatory step to enter into Sikhism.
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Well, non-Baptized Sikhs (and non-Sikhs) should be allowed to dance. Full ban on dancing might not be a good idea. Also, we cannot force non-Baptized Sikh (and non-Sikh) ladies to keep their heads covered. We can have laws against public indecency, when it comes to clothing.
Some other potential laws.
Strict laws against racism. casteism, sexism, domestic abuse, etc. Tobacco ban is a must or gradually phase it out like New Zealand is doing. Death sentences for rapists, pedos, terrorists, murderers (first degree), etc.  
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Just so people know. Here is a personal testimony from:
Origins of Bhangra culture from "East of Indus" by Gurnam Singh Sidhu Brard (the author was born in 1930, Patiala state). This is how Bhangra made its way into Panjabi culture. 
 
 

 
So it seems apparent that bhangra was some dance from muslim Panjabi culture, that made its way into Sikh heartlands via partition refugees (who grew up as minorities in muslim majority areas), which were relocated into Sikh majority areas after partition. It's not even our culture! Plus muslims themselves have largely rejected it, but many of our lot are still prancing around like twats..........
 
 
Related thread:
https://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/89173-bhangra-isnt-a-panjabi-folk-dance/#comment-776159

I meant more of the Punjabi Culture which has been around for hundreds of years. But I agree, songs which promote alcohol and drugs should be banned. 

I think more and more people are getting sick to death of this kunjur culture, most especially as how it is defining us as colourful, dancing peasant apes. 
 

 
 

I will probably be in the minority but I would take out the stupid culture stuff completely. All bhangra/dance etc gone. Lots of proper parchar about naam, shabad. Get the kids into it from the start, plenty of martial arts/physical training.
We dont become lions by shouting about it at the top of our voices drunk in a dance hall. Lions/warriors are created with the right training and right parchar from the beginning. Guru Gobind Singh ji did the same.
Problem with the culture stuff is, you say we can keep this because its harmless, thennit expands, before you know it, you have a big problem. You keep bhangra, then you mix alcohol with it. Then you get the singers singing stupid gangster crap that encourages guns and drugs, then before long you are where we are now in Punjab. 
 
If we are going to go down the same route, may as well stay where we are, no need to create a new homeland. 

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਹਿ॥
How should Khalistan be governed? Should harmless aspects of Punjabi culture be allowed, like Boliyan and Giddha? Mandatory wearing of Chunni? Because if so a lot of people would be turned away from the idea of Khalistan. 

In my opinion, Parchar of Sikhi should continue in mass scales, without the forcing of Sikhi onto anyone. Leave it up to the individual to make their own choices. Obviously, it is the Khalsa’s Rule so effective laws should be put in place which do not compromise Sikhi or people’s freedom. If we look at the Raj of Baba Banda Singh Bahadur, the Misls or Maharaja Ranjit Singh, religion wasn’t forced upon anybody. and whilst there was an emphasis on Sikhi, music or dancing wasn’t banned. So is this how Khalistan should be like? 
 
Do we get rid of Punjabi culture altogether, or start a reform to remove the toxic parts of Punjabi culture without neglecting Sikhi? What are your views? 

I don't remember this case specifically but that year (89) lots of stuff was happening. My specific neck of the woods was having guys fighting back quite viciously (and organised). This wasn't just against white racists, but black ones too. 
I remember hearing stuff like: "What's the big deal - it's only a p**i!!" being said by laughing goray adults around this time, whenever the matter of someone being racially attacked and killed would come up.  
 
Do you remember the case Paul Choudhry talked about? Where one of the minicab driver husbands of one of the female workers in his family shop was stabbed to death by a passenger, who prior to the attack told people something like: "I'm going to go out and kill the first p**i I see!" - and he did. Left the wife to raise the kids on her own. 

@Premi
 
Nice one bro. 
Will watch tonight!!

Plz do darshan of Sunehra of Akali Phoola Singh ji. Initially it was in the Buddha Dal chaunni in Amritsar Sahib. Now it's in this Gurdwara Sahib.

This sunehra was originally at this Gurdwara Sahib.
http://www.discoversikhism.com/sikh_gurdwaras/gurdwara_and_burj_akali_phula_singh.html

Asked them yesterday. They don't do jhatka on camels.

Very sad news for the Panth.
May Maharaaj bless his soul.
 
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Very sad news. He was a gem of the Panth.
May Maharaaj give him and his family the strength to accept his will.
 
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@dalsingh101 - Do you know the answer to the above question bro?
Thanks
 
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Yes, there were. Some of the them are listed below.
Sant Baba Karam Singh jee Hoti Mardaan wale
Sant Baba Attar Singh jee Mastuane wale
Sant Baba Jawala Singh jee Harkhowal
@dalsingh101 - Was Sant Baba Isher Singh jee Rarewale in the British Army?
 
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@Singh2022
The above news reports are from Western Media.
 
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Do you think all people who enter into the city of Mecca, are checked if they are Muslims or not? 
Sikhs do not hate Muslims. Idiots/fools hate people based on their religion, race, etc.
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Is Sant Syed jee still alive?
Thanks
 
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As per Gurmat, there is nothing wrong, if someone wants to break away from the Panth and form a separate group/cult. People should have freedom of religion. We cannot force people to follow Sikhism. The problem arises, when someone starts insulting other religions. These Nakli Nirankaris were insulting our Satgurus and were responsible for the murder of Sikhs.
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At last, the procession was held. Narakdharis prepared themselves to attack Sikhs in the heart of their city. Punjab police was called for security. The government sent special army units for protection. Followers of Gurbachan were equipped with lethal weapons, guns, revolvers, acid-filled bottles, swords, knives and mechanical propellants for shooting poison-tipped arrows. The procession marched through the streets of Amritsar speaking disrespectfully against the Sikh Gurus and calling Guru Granth Sahib “a mere book” on loud speakers. The news reached Darbar Sahib where thousands of Sikhs had gathered to celebrate Vaisakhi. Sant Jarnail Singh, leader of Damdami Taksal, gave a brief lecture to the congregation and appealed Sikhs to take action. It was decided that Sikhs should protest peacefully to stop the Narakdharis. Batch of Sikhs, lead by Bhai Fauja Singh Ji, left Darbar Sahib. Most members of the protesting group were from Damdami Taksal and Akhand Kirtani Jatha. Sikhs peacefully marched toward the procession reciting religious hymns. When they reached near the procession, they were stopped by one police officer and were asked for the reason for protesting. Sikhs calmly told him that they were there to stop the procession and not to cause any trouble. The police officer told Sikhs to wait there until he came back. He went away not to talk to anyone but to warn Narakdharis to prepare themselves to kill Sikhs. Without warning, Sikhs were fired upon. The Narakdharis threw bottles filled with sulfuric acid on Sikhs. Even police and security forces joined them to kill Sikhs. 13 Sikhs became martyr, including Bhai Fauja Singh and more than 80 Sikhs were wounded. 
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[1] - http://www.sikhfreedom.com/1978-vaisakhi-massacre
 
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@sukrit kaur @BhagatSingh - Are you sure that he was a spiritual being? His predecessor used to insult Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee Maharaaj. Are you aware of that? Sant Nirankari mission was responsible for killing Sikhs in the past.
 
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This person was the head of Sant Nirankari mission, which has had conflicts with the Sikhs in the past. His predecessor (Gurbachan) was killed by Bhai Ranjit Singh jee. 
Nirankari Samprada (which is a part of Sikh panth) is different from them. Does anyone know, who is the head of this samprada? Anyone close to this Samprada?
 
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And any other sangat ji, 
Das is creating a website with a Gurbani archive, Sakhis, recordings and many more. It will be updated on a regular basis.
Any suggestions ji?
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