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4 hours ago, tva prasad said:
During stages 6 and 7, is the light/ radiance percieved through the senses or rather realised and felt?
Sorry ji . It's just a copied article, as I found it a nice n relevant read. I will put ur question in the comments below it and let you know if I get any reply.
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With these we can understand the signs of enlightened person.
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First stage of enlightenment is called as “Shubheccha”.
Here the person wishes to do good things.
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2nd stage is called “ Vichaarana”
I.e.here the person interrogates himself about good.
He questions him self- what is really good ,How can it be understood.
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3rd stage is “Tanu manasi”
Mind is thin film ,covering the Consciousness of the self.
Ie.the person becomes more thinner ,in the subtle level of mind…!!
How it's possible??!!
This is explained beautifully in Yoga Vaasista by a sanskrit verse.
Like our body becomes fat ,Even mind gets thick or fat because of ego,greed and destractions of indulgence in the wordly pleasures .
Brick is opaque to light
But glass???!!!
Yes ,through thin clear glass light can pass easily.
Similarly when mind gets purified—
When stout ego gets dissolved because of introspection and search for the truth
—worldy pleasures won't remain as a center of attraction.
This is called thinning of mind!!
This stage is called Tanu manasi.
These 3 stages are preparations for enlightenment.
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Fourth stage— Here one experiences flashes of lightening. That is-internal flashes of satva guna !!!
—man is called as Brahmavid at this stage.
Satva guna purifies the person so this stage is called as Satvapatti
This is entrace to the palace of Brahman I.e -person has just entered the palace of Brahman !!
Not attained Brahman or enlightenment yet!!
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5th stage Is called Asamaskti.
In this stage consciousness of externality of person melts with consciousness of universality.
Usually A person sees sun, moon,stars and other people out side him - Isn’t it??
But in this stage he sees them, i.e moon sun stars and people —all are studded inside him!!!
Even -time and space -are ceased.
This is a stage of detachment from externality and particularity.
This is called Asamasakti.
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Sixth stage is called…Padartha Bhaavana
In Quantum physics it's clearly told that matter is nothing but light!!
For example earth is not hard ,stony…but it is filled full with radiating light!!!
Yes !!
In this 6th —hiegher state of enlightenment -Beholder sees hardness solidity of materials melting and person can see only brilliance of radiant light!!
When single Sun rises from east we can see so much light fills in the world.
But in this sixth stage of enlightenment full space is filled with light ..ie not one sun . Radiance of light of several Suns.
This is called By Pathanjali muni ,in his suthra as savikalpa samadhi.
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7th and last stage is called as Tureeya-beholder merges with the beholding…
Ie.the enlightened person will merge with radiant light.He also gets the form of light and merges with it.Everything is one..only enlightenment…ie brilliant light everywhere.only light!!!!
This is Absolute enlightenment or Thureeya avastha!! Last stage of enlightenment.
These are seven stages of enlightenment explained in Yoga Vasista
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Lol... such a humble reply! But sadly that's.. No use bro! Haters are meant for ninda. They are created for the purpose. There were many at the time of Guruji and there are many rather more today. So no point telling them the truth they don't have 'those' ears to hear .. comprehending Gurbani is a boon these kinds are not meant for !
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19 hours ago, Soulfinder said:
@Guru da Singh Veer ji its really sad what you are experiencing as its not a small quick fix problem.
You could try to be a good role model as that i hope will help convince your wife that gurmat principles rehit is the best.
You could also do ardas and ask Waheguru Guru Sahib Ji to bless your wife for gursikh jeevan which Guru Sahib Ji will help.
You can try to get some literature writtings on Guru Sahibs, Mahapursh jeevanis that will help inspire her into adopting gursikh jeevan.
Here are a few relevant tracks i searched which i hope will help as it relates to this thread. I will add more when i find relevant tracks related to this thread
17 hours ago, Soulfinder said:Very nice videos soulfinder veerji. He's right we shouldn't expect.
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:-)) Thank you so much Veer.
Also if you find some good read or shabad ( i can japp) on Jeevan Jach or Maya vich kive vicharna then please please mainu dena ji. This detachment concept sounds so good but is too tough for me.
Waheguru
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I think I have read somewhere on this site about OBE that's out of the body experiences and astral travel. Will try n find veerji
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10 hours ago, Sajjan_Thug said:
With the entry of divine light in the six chakras, the divine melody of drum beat
O! the light- jhalkare and then the beats . Does it say when Amrit drips? Pls
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Hey. No worries . don't apologize. its just that we perceive things differently.
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3 hours ago, Soulfinder said:
Veer ji hope you don't mind me saying this as this sounds like a early stages of depression. I am saying this because its sounds like a build up of stress or maybe its just a change you could be facing due to weather and other issues.
I will send you a private message veer ji.
Oh crap... He's not depressed. He's blessed.
3 hours ago, Soulfinder said: -
"Eh vis sansaar jo tum dekhde,eh Har ka roop hai Har roop nadri aaya"
Do u see HARR in all?? It's him doing everything. Being a " saakshi" .. That way??
Don't see a psychiatrist my friend be happy. Be thankful and do a mental balle balle. U are on the right track. Rest wise Gurmukhs' will guide of course. @DeNiro @Sat1176 @Lucky @HisServant and others
I wish i get something soon too. Please help me follow you. Thanks for sharing bro.
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Shock!! As i was discussing this with my life partner. Whilst talking I get this answer " its my super personal matter"
I don't have words to describe how I felt. ANOTHER "secret mission". Does that mean I am the only fool here?
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2 hours ago, Sat1176 said:
I think by Jhalkare she means flashes of light.
Hanji seems so. Does that happen this way? Shall I probe her more? Or let her continue?
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Sat Sri Akaal everyone
I was a bit confused on this topic above. Yesterday I called my mom after a while and during our general conversation she asked me ' if I am doing waheguru simran. I confirmed yes n whilst talking she somehow told me that '. 'unhaanu jhalkare pende hann'. saying that she got so awkward asbif she has revealed such a top secret that she may be punished for it. She did not speak to me further as I tried to question her and handed over the phone to Dad. I wanted to ask a lot of things.. What did she mean when she said ' jhalkare' ? Is she getting amrit Rass but ..
I was left in awe. i mean my own mom, and she's hiding it from ME ? Is that a rule in bhakti? Shall I call her again to talk about it? It seems she won't but I am her child so can insist so shall I? Please advice wise people.
This has affected me really, I have been thinking about it all the time
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Sat Sri Akaal ! all
Thanks so much. I am such a nyaana here that can't even think of commenting anything than just thanking. Just that if I take ur Gurmukhs points as ladder steps, m on step 2 in @ragnarok definition. At 4 on @Sat1176 ji's and 1 on @DeNiro
.. Sunn happens for a very short while n then either I find myself asleep or in thoughts few moments later.
All in all a kiddo here. Seeking all ur Gurmukhs' blessings and Marg darshan. @Luckyji Please be active here.
It brings light to the forum by the presence of Gurmukhs like u all
Thanks again!
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Hey Sat Sri Akaal all
Thanks so much @Sat1176 and @DeNiro. Shukar hai u all are here. No wonder why SGGS emphasise bso much on satsangat. Will surely work upon this, I understand wat u say @DeNiro ji but u know its human nature to get to know what's my train's next station, to be curious and i feel if I know what's in store for me next , I may get more motivated.
By the way why did u choose username de Niro? It's not related to gurmat.. Then this taxi driver flick seems older than most of us were born. The kind of person u sound ,there must be a reason if not story .. Would u like to share?
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Sure, thanks much
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On 7/17/2019 at 5:47 PM, Lucky said:
Very good demonstration that i was pleased to see.
The above "core-self" is a very good place to sit your surti . Highly recommended when trying to get deeper into naad.
On 7/19/2019 at 10:42 PM, Sat1176 said:On 7/20/2019 at 6:55 PM, Mooorakh said:Thank you for this one. It is more clear than any of the previous ones for a ' niyaana' like me. Thanks. now i may find my steps further.
And this has confused me even further...
For me its not naada. Just these sounds
Which @Sat1176 ji said was sehaj dhun.. I am on my way with this sound. Last time I was told not to concentrate on it as its just starting. People hear vaaja,/ shankh ,tabla etc.. Now this video says to listen to these or that I am not 'in love' that is why I am not able to listen? Phir main ki karaa ? Confused head again. please help!
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This link works very well.... very clear.... . Though isn't it skeptical.. I mean how can a ghost talk plus get recorded too.. and its a proper interview? . not with Babaji, he's talking to the sangat. There are so many terms that he uses that are as per gurmat. He talks mainly about the importance of Guru and keep on praising Baba Isher Singh ji.. Above everyone else, though if he's that old he may have had the Darshan of 10 Gurus themselves. .. Yeah but hukam of Akaal is more important.. so strange is the game... life , still doubts are a part of my head I guess!
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Thank u so much dost
Yes u r right in getting reminded of the sakhi above. ( it was not just any Sikh ) it was Guru RAMDAS Sahib himself before becoming Guru ( as Bhai Jettha ji) who bought ripe mangoes for Guru Amardas Sahib ji but had to eat them himself remembering his Guru.
But yes got the point.. As they say it's all about jin prem kiyo whatever way that may be expressed...
Thanks again.
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6 hours ago, tva prasad said:
You are quite welcome. It is good to resolve doubts.
Surat simply refers to awareness, in this context, as per my understanding. The awareness of doing what pleases god is the surat referred to here. I.e. trying to do things that you believe will please God. This could be anything as long as your awareness is aimed at pleasing God through your actions.
O that makes it easy.
I heard a Hindu story months ago where a bhagat used to sit near a river and did bhagti all in his thoughts... in his thoughts he used to cook for 'Ram ji', bring flowers made garlands and so on. While he's busy sitting near the river all the day, his farms used to bear bountiful crops whereas his brother's farm- instead of working hard couldn't bear good crops...
So he being jealous came to his brother near the river and kicked him hard . at that time his brother was cooking kheer for his Lord in the ' surat' , the brothers' feet thus got badly burnt.
But that's NOT as per Gurmat .. Right?? I mean serving your LOrd in Surat
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On 7/7/2019 at 4:51 AM, tva prasad said:
"Neti, neti" comes from "na iti, na iti" which translates to 'not this, not this'. Thus, an attempt to understand Brahman (God) through identifying what he is not. Sunn samadhi, as explained in the video is when one transcends this notion of "neti, neti" as one realises all is Brahman. This is when the sense of "I am", therefore ego, is eradicated. This results in coming out of trigunn maya as the ego is dissolved.
As for the pankti above, it is saying that, serve with the awareness that: only that is approved which pleases the Lord. Thus, know that the actions which are pleasing to God as worthwhile.
Funny story, just a few days ago I was wondering 'what is it that makes a good action good and a bad action bad?' As they are both created by God, then why is one considered 'good' and another 'bad'? Then as I was listening to Tva Prasad Swaiye, it struck me... The translation said "the Great Giver looks daily at our flaws but does not stop providing (even when annoyed at our evil deeds)". This implies that evil deeds are something which is not pleasing to God. Therefore, good deeds please the Lord. It all made sense... Even though nothing is 'good' or 'bad' (advait), during the initial stages one should do 'good' deeds in order to please God. This is why each religion is bound by rules, despite the fact that all is the same due to one source.
7 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:A variant of this is used by Guru ji in the first chand of Jaap Sahib:
ਤਿ੍ਭਵਣ ਮਹੀਪ ਸੁਰ ਨਰ ਅਸੁਰ ਨੇਤ ਨੇਤ ਬਨ ਤਿ੍ਣ ਕਹਤ ॥
Thank u so much. That makes sense.
Just one more thing?? ( m sorry if I am being unreasonable) how do I serve 'him' with 'Surat'?? Does it refer to Jaap/ reciting baani quietly in surat?
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On 6/30/2019 at 11:42 AM, tva prasad said:
Very nice.. But difficult one. Couldn't understand in one go
One thing pls @tva prasad @Sat1176 @Lucky what Does neti neti means in this video???
And will u be kind enough to explain this pankti below
ਨਾਨਕ ਸੇਵਾ ਸੁਰਤਿ ਕਮਾਵਣੀ ਜੋ ਹਰਿ ਭਾਵੈ ਸੋ ਥਾਇ ਪਾਇ ॥੨॥ ang 88
Nanak seva Surat kamaavni Jo Jar bhaave so thaae paae.
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So true. It can never be enough. ( ant na sifti kehan na ant.. )
13 hours ago, chatanga1 said:I don't think it can ever be enough. Maybe this is why SGGS is so large. To remind Sikhs as such.
"Gur Satgur ka jo Sikh akhai ......."
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GURU'S LOVE FOR HIS SIKHS
Last few days as Maghi Sangrad happened we were revised of 40 Mukte. It was so heart touching to see how much Guru Ji loved his Sikhs.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=573874730123507&id=373092366868412
Here's a Hindu story on how much lord loves his devotees. I found it worth sharing
Once Narada entered Vaikuntha and greeted Sriman Narayan. The Lord welcomed Narada and asked about his well-being.
Suddenly, out of nowhere, Vishnu questioned “Narada! What do you think is the greatest among the Panchattatvas, the five elements? Is it the sky, wind, land, fire or water?”.
Narada thought for a while and replied “I feel it's the earth, the land. Because she alone bears the entire weight of beings!”.
Vishnu narrowed his eyes and said “How come it's the land, when three-fourths of the earth alone consist of water?”.
Narada thought and nodded slowly and admitted that water is the greatest.
Then Vishnu said “How come water is the greatest when the great sage Agastya was able to gulp all of it down into his stomach?”.
Narada scratched his head and ran his fingers over the strings of his Veena. “Hmm, then Agastya is the greatest?”.
Vishnu smirked and said “But Agastya is just a star in the sky. There are umpteen stars in the sky!”.
Narada widened his eyes and admitted “True. The sky is infinite and hence the greatest!”.
Vishnu cleared his throat and threw a challenging look at Narada. He said “But Oh Narada! With just three strides, the sky, earth and nether regions have been brought under my jurisdiction. Then who's the greatest?”.
Narada popped out his tongue in realisation of his mistake and said “Oh Lord! I apologise. Indeed it's you who is the greatest!”.
Vishnu then stood up and told Narada “Then imagine about that Devotee Narada, who has given refuge to this Vishnu inside his heart! With his prema-pasha, the noose of love, he has installed me in his heart and captured me there, which gives the greatest joy to me. Then who's the greatest Narada?!”.
Tears rolled down the eyes of Narada and he said “It's your devotees Lord!” after prostrating in front of the Lord.
The Unconquerable One suddenly becomes conquered by the love of his devotees like Yashoda and Gopikas.
The One without a beginning or end assumes a birth to give delight to his beloved ones and makes everyone overwhelmed on his departure. The devotees weep on his birth. They weep on his departure.
The One who is the master of all riches suddenly begins to aspire for the little amount of flat rice that has been brought by the poor Sudama, or the already tasted berries of Shabari.
The One who makes the three worlds dance on his one gaze suddenly enters the ranga-bhumi, and begins to dance on the whims of his beloved devotees, like a puppet attached by the chords of love.
The One who has no arrival, or departure, suddenly arrives on the request of his devotees like Prahlada or Meera.
The One who is free from all debts willingly entangles himself in the karmic debt to entertain his devotees, and cherish their emotions.
The Complete Man, suddenly becomes a woman to honor the antics of his female friends.
The One who has no hunger cries inconsolably when his mothers appears out of sight.
The One who is transcendental and is always satisfied in his own self, cries in his own joy of satisfaction on being fed with the milk.
The One for whom no work is described, takes on his catapult and breaks the pots of Gopikas, thus making them caressed with love when they are drenched from head to toe.
The One who has the entire opulence of the universe, who has the choicest of mansions to live, still chooses to reside in t he heart of his devotee.
If this isn’t compassion, then it isn’t really compassion what you’re seeking for!