Bhoolea bhatkea

A very powerful shabad.
Just to add to this very good outline above by Sat, ..... the stage between 4 and 5, is a very long process that itself contains many other stages along the way.
 
I think, I'm right in saying that the multiple shabads merging into one(eka naam), occurs after dasam duara is open?   correct me if I'm wrong.
You may hear the shabads at different stages before hand i.e..prior to dasam duar.    But after it's opening, when Waheguru opens the door for you,   they are all heard again, together, but this time, they are in pure celebration, Vadiyanh and anand bliss (anand sahib ->Mann Vajia Vadiyanh) 

I don't think anyone can "have god reside in your mind"; because He is already there but we cannot find Him. e.g Butter is hidden in the milk but becomes visible only when someone does follow the process of churning.
Same way God is there, it's just a matter of:
* Finding reasons Why we cannot find him?
 - Because we're finding Him in the wrong place.
 - and our Mind does have faults.
* And once we're aware of those, we just need to follow the process of removing those veils.
Sat has already explained what really means by "Raab da mann wich vasna a.k.a Raab nu labh lena", but it comes with KIRPA.

Having God in mind, means, to be focused on Him at all times as much as possible.
One may ask how can that be possible?  Well, we can easily have Him, through His chintan, His simran. By putting into action this jugtee, we stop the mind from wandering out constantly.
The thing is, we have to get filled more with Him, than the worldly maya. And this is only possible, by aiding, by putting within us the most precious wealth/dhan, and that is the one of His Nam simran. There is no other way to lessen maya or koor within us, except the one of His Nam, Wahiguru.
For only His power, can overpower, subdue and defeat man, maya and kal. 
Our reality as spiritual beings/souls, is the nature of us being particles of  the Infinite Ocean of Shabad, and thus, to merge in Him, is our sole goal in human life.
Just as in Anand Sahib, we have heard and read many a times, Nam jiskay man vaseeya, vajeh Shabd ganere.  Which means, in the minds of those where Nam is established firmly, through His Simran, we start being/getting aware of our True nature as His souls, and as the more we dedicate ourselves in the devotion of Nam Simran as pointed out thoroughly SGGS,  we start getting purified from all our impurities, karmas, vasnas, man, moh, vikars, only then we gain that much purity by His Grace at all times, that only and only then we are fit to merge and become one with Him.
That is His Beant wadeeayee, of letting us being engaged in the devotion of His Lotus Feet.
So finally, how did all this happen?
Well it all started, by having him in our mind, through His Simran.
Har simran meh Prabh Aap Nirankara.
Sat Sree Akal.
 

In Sach Khand the true eternal imperishable abode, only He exists.
Whatever and wherever any creation exists apart from it,  there has to be Mind,  Maya, and Kaal,  otherwise there is no creation at any level.
It is true, those wadbhagee souls who merged their soul consciousness in Wahiguru Akal Purukh, do never come back again.
Anyhow, It is all His "Mauj", nobody can question Him, neither at our present level ever understand it, even if explained to us.
Sat Sree Akal.

Shivam Kumar,
we must bear in mind, we all souls have our origin from Him, we are all same in essence, it is due to our individual association with the mind which makes it look like diversity.
Everything was created out of Him, nothing exists which is not Him.
I do believe as per Gurbani, there was a time when nothing existed, He was deeply absorbed in Himself, in His Shabad Dhun swaroop/Satnam; then He wished to create, and creation came into existence.
You see when Parlay or Mahaparlay take place, all souls have no option but to return and merge in Him.
Though, all these talks are big pictures for our petty minds, but that much can be said, why wait for Him and see when He decides to finish His play, why stay and prolong  ourselves in the valley of pain and tears of Maya and Kal, if we want, we can seek His Kirpa, His Daya Meher, hold on to His Nam, Satnam, and reach His eternal abode.
Dhan Guru Arjun Dev Maharaj, clearly tells us in the following just three verses, the secret of achieving our union with Him :
ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੈ ਸਿਮਰਨਿ ਗਰਭਿ ਨ ਬਸੈ
Prabh Ka Simran, garb na baseh
ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੈ ਸਿਮਰਨਿ ਦੂਖੁ ਜਮੁ ਨਸੈ ॥
Prabh Kai Simaran Dhookh Jam Nasai
ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੈ ਸਿਮਰਨਿ ਕਾਲੁ ਪਰਹਰੈ ॥
Prabh Kai Simaran Kaal Pareharai ||
 
Stay blessed.
Sat Sree Akal.

Will there come a time when all the souls trapped in these three worlds will realise the truth, escape the trap and gain the highest level of consciousness? Or this creation and dissolution will go for eternity? 

If you can feel their presence clearly (not maybe... but rather clear presence), then you have already had their darshan.
If you want to experience a clear presence or even more than a presence, then you should do bhagti.
Any spiritual phenomenon becomes more apparent through meditation and through strengthening your intention.
Strengthening attention and intention through devotion, that is bhagti.
Attention is the ability to focus on a single point and intention, is the willpower to move towards your goal.
One example of such a man who had these qualities is Sant Nam Dev ji.
Sant Nam Dev ji was being tortured by a sultan and was about to be killed.
However his bhagti was at such a high level that he manifested Akal Purakh sahib right there.
So you must develop a level of devotion that is somewhat comparable.

1. Yes. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. No, unless it is your time.
4. No. It is not a hallucination but it is also not the ultimate reality. It is another transient, dream like this 3D world.
5. Yes.
6. a) Yes. b) Not sure.
My knowledge of Astral Projection is limited to what I have researched and hear from other people who have claimed to have done it.
However with regards to Samadhi I can speak from some experience.
7. a) Samadhi is related to astral projection in that doing meditation will help you project your consciousness outside of your body. Some people have had astral projection experiences while in samadhi state due to the absorption in consciousness and dissociation from the body.
7. b) Sachkhand isn't some place out there that you travel to. Sach khand is available here and now, and Samadhi is the act of merging with Waheguru and experiencing him here and now.
When the mind settles into its own awareness, then it comes to reside in Sach khand.
 

You are both wrong!

Feast your eyes upon the eternity that is the present moment!
Shiv and Shakti both arise out of Mahakal, the supreme Time.  Both consciousness and Energy, Shiv and Shakti, are merely arising and falling in Kaal, boundless Father Time! They both arise in the present moment. Mahakal hai Pita Apara. In his body, exists countless consciousnesses, countless forms of energy.

Kaal consumes conscious, energy-filled entities for breakfast. Thus Time is ultimately real. All else is false. Time alone is Timeless.
None can escape the jaws of Mahakal!



Get wrecked

Oh no friends. No joke.

All measurements (theories) that say time is relative is only really relative to the measurement that is being made.
All consciousness that perceives time is only perceiving a portion of time (time that is relative to consciousness).
All measurements performed and all consciousnesses perceiving, are getting only portions of time, not the vast present moment in they were measuring and being aware.
Time is beyond measurement and it is beyond consciousness.
It is the all encompassing eternity.
It is the eternal now.
The immeasurable now.
It includes all relative time that you can understand. But it beyond all relative time. Black holes come and go from existence, consumed by time.

It is Mahakal, incomprehensible, immeasurable, imperceptible.
 
You guys understand your paradigms well.

Wakeup you understand the paradigm that is Consciousness-centric. You think time and energy are within the field of consciousness. And that limits you from understanding the energy-centric paradigm which Opal presented and time-centric paradigm that I presented.

Opal you understand the paradigm that is Energy centric. You think consciousness and time are within the field of energy. And that limits you from understanding the consciousness-centric paradigm that Wakeup presented and time-centric paradigm that I presented.

Now I want you to go into your experience of your paradigm. The most pure experience you can generate.
Really do it.

Clarify your experience, trust it and let it sit and observe it.
Can you see how that appears as Consciousness and Energy and Time depending on how you approach it?

See the reality of it all, that transcends any individual paradigm, including your own.

Sick picture!
mahakaal is a bad ass

Lol. Indeed he is. wink wink ;)

They are all badass.

They are different representations of that which is at the center of everything.

One person might call it consciousness, another might call it energy and another might call it time. The consciousness guy says energy and time are illusions. The energy guy says consciousness and time are illusions. The time guy says consciousness and energy are illusions.
It is important to be in touch with that pure essence.

I personally prescribe to the Consciousness-centric worldview similar to WakeUp, which is what is expressed in Guru Granth Sahib also, using not the name 'Shiv' or the english word 'consciousness' but instead the names, pictures and stories of - Hari, Vishnu, Ram and Krishna.

But I understand other paradigms like that of Adi Shakti (which Opal presented) and that of Mahakal (which I presented), both of which are also discussed in Dasam Granth.
 
One should go into the very deepest essence that one can access. Never lose sight of that essence in all the worldviews and belief systems that exist. That essence alone is ultimately real and not the beliefs you prescribe to.

But it is also important to have beliefs. Beliefs are the backbone of your spiritual growth. They are tools that you will use to hammer your intellect and transform it into something beautiful.

It is important to have beliefs and to stick by them like Baba Namdev ji did in the court of the Muslim Emperor who wanted him killed for not chanting Allah instead of chanting Hari and Ram. He stood by his belief system even though he understood the belief system of the emperor. While under attack, he rattled his chains and sung of Ram.

Namdev ji himself taught do not chant other names, only stick to chanting Ram. It means to stick to a belief system so that you can progress spiritually and learn to taste the essence. Ram was the center of Namdev ji's belief system so that's what he taught.

But some people take the wrong meaning out of it and start rejecting other belief systems as ignorance. They say mine is superior and yours is all nonsense. They devote their attention to this pursuit and not the pursuit their belief system is encouraging, thus they do not progress spiritually.

Other people take the easy route and accept everything as true without understanding the essence. They say every belief system is good, they become lazy and don't follow any system. They remain ignorant. Thus they do not progress spiritually either.

Namdev ji says one who follows a belief system and makes progress in that system is the enlightened one.

Now perhaps this shabad will make more sense, when read again in a new light -

In the post below, I am explaining the different faces of God. It is difficult to see them without meditation and developing what is traditionally known as Divya Drishti, divine sight, which comes from meditation and grace.

Avoid reading theories upon theories without meditating. It will not get you anywhere.
So this post is not a replacement for meditation. and this post cannot be understood fully without meditation.

When in doubt always meditate (instead of thinking). Thinking cannot clear doubt.
 
You (and me) are defining God as consciousness. Yet consciousness is also something within creation.
This is because God Consciousness is not the same as Man Consciousness. Absolute Consciousness vs Relative Consciousness.

God Time is not the same as Man Time. Absolute Time vs Relative Time (that changes with perception and gravity).
 
So when Guru Granth Sahib is talking about God Consciousness and says time is an illusion. They are speaking from the point of view and from the belief system of Consciousness, where time is changing or a measurement of change.

Guru Granth Sahib says Consciousness is ultimately outside of Time. That it is God Consciousness who is entering Time-Space to protect devotees for instance. Guru Amardas ji tells the story of Prahlaad ji, for whom the God Consciousness, Narsingh, appeared before everyone to save him. Absolute Consciousness (Narsingh) entering Time-Space to protect devotees for instance.

Guru Amardas ji says
ਭਗਤਾ ਕਾ ਅੰਗੀਕਾਰੁ ਕਰਦਾ ਆਇਆ ॥ ਕਰਤੈ ਅਪਣਾ ਰੂਪੁ ਦਿਖਾਇਆ ॥
He always protects his devotees. Once again, the Creator, Narsingh, has showed himself!

Dasam Granth considers God Time as the reality and speaks from that and says that Consciousness entering and leaving Time, that is not God. Consciousness is not absolute, consciousness is consumed by God Time.

According to Dasam Granth (in Vachitra Natak Granth),
ਨਰਸਿੰਘਾਵਤਾਰੰ ॥ ਵਹੈ ਕਾਲ ਮਾਰੰ ॥
Narsingh is simply something appearing in Time, that was destroyed by Time (Kaal) afterwards.

From the perspective of Time, Consciousness appears and disappears, Time does not.


In Guru Granth Sahib Narsingh is Absolute Consciousness. Hence why they worship Narsingh.
ਕਹਿ ਨਾਮਦੇਉ ਹਮ ਨਰਹਰਿ ਧਿਆਵਹ ਰਾਮੁ ਅਭੈ ਪਦ ਦਾਤਾ ॥
Says Nam Dev, I meditate on Narsingh, the giver of fearlessness, the liberator.
 
So Guru Granth Sahib is saying Kaal is an illusion inside Narsingh. And Dasam Granth is saying that Narsingh is an illusion inside Kaal.

Two very different paradigms.
 
Yes and Time is the ultimate oneness and is unchanging and contains all changes.

Every change is happening in Time. It is the Eternal Present Moment. Time is also perceived as a moment but the perception also takes place in Time.


Dasam Granth (in Vachitra Natak Granth) -
ਜਿਤੇ ਹੋਇ ਬੀਤੇ ॥ ਤਿਤੇ ਕਾਲ ਜੀਤੇ ॥
All things that came into being, were conquered by Time.
ਜਿਤੇ ਸਰਨਿ ਜੈਹੈਂ ॥ਤਿਤਿਓ ਰਾਖ ਲੈਹੈਂ ॥੭੫॥
Whoever goes into the sanctuary of Time (called Present Moment), they are saved.

 
Scientific theories are always limited to a certain paradigm. Current science lives in the materialistic paradigm that the Physical Universe is the ultimate reality and everything exists within the Physical only, and the Physical Universe has generated Consciousness through evolution.

That's one face of God.


We believe that Consciousness generates the physical universe. Physical universe lives inside Consciousness. Hence why Vishnu is called Shri Niwaas, the house of the world itself.

Rupert Spira is very good at explaining this.
That's another face of God.

Keep watching and Rupert also gives a Time-Centric explanation at - 12:38. Maybe you'll understand him better than me.


Paradigms with Time at the center is another face of God.

Eckharte Tolle is very good at explaining this Time-centric view as well. Read "The Power of Now".

In terms of scientific theories - If you listen to Stuart Hammeroff's theory of consciousness. He says it is Space-Time Geometry that collapses into Happenings, which is defined as a moment of Perception. He is essentially saying Time generates Consciousness.

Stuart is the guy on the left with the white beard and bald head.

 

I should simplify that SUNN zone is the etheric space where lies Nij Ghar, sookh mehal, sach ghar, dev lok, and many heaven realms  etc.. It is in this zone that spirit/subtle bodies wait for hukam to take birth again in this world or other's.
Sunn exists inside us and also in outer space. It's place is in different regions, so every seeker will have different experiences along the journey but they will relevant to thesesunn voids.
They are both, but may be easier for seeker to view them as stages.   The layout of darbar sahib is analogous to this. The bathing and walk along concourse where you will hear bani and also the chit chat of surrounding sangat(SUNN MANDAL) , .. then you get closer to main entrance and can do parkhama where anhad will surround you (ANHAD SUNN). Here, one see's their own jyot dazzling in purity-represented by reflection in gold.  The 4 lavaan are also in line with the same stages.
Any person can have gurprasad or kirpa and go straight from 1st, 2nd sunn, to Sachadarbar. Gurbani says that he chooses the chosen ones. However, gurbani's main emphasis is on the seeker to be working at it and doing kamayee. It is Naam kamayee that defines your progress toward and into Hari's mandar.
 
Majority of shabads are about getting from sunn mandal to anhad sunn(sehaj) and Sunn samadhi darshan of Nirankar. The shabads guide and also give tons of nishanees that the seeker will catch as they go from 2nd sunn towards 4th Sunn -chautha padh.
As you are aware, gurbani covers all levels for all seeker, so a shabad can give message of sunn mandal  or sunn samadh of primal void. or even both.
The shabads you quoted above, all do apply to 4th Sunn for sure. But, I notice for eg. the first one quoted about the actor stages the play can also be cross-referenced with Divas rat due-daie dai-ai khlai sagal jagat (Day and night are the two nurses, in whose lap all the world is at play) This could be discussed with reference to day and night where the mind goes back to sunn at night after completing the days play. This would be the first stage of sunn(dreamless, thoughtless sunn)
 

Ist level sunn is the dreamless state we all go into.  It is the deep sleep when one's mind disassociates from the physical body.  This same sunn is also the sunn of bhavsagar journey from mool duar to trikuti.
2nd level sunn is Sunn-mandal , bathing in amritsar, Also called sunn sarovar and some other names as well. This sunn is where naad is heard, but maya is still on surrounding  as well.  Abyasees can meet other abyasees in this sunn-mandal. It's also the place of void in space.  Alot of cleansing at this sunn
3rd sunn (anhad sunn) is further from sunn-mandal, when one is completely surrounding by anhad naad.  Maya still present behind. One is at the Dar. One hears the kirtan and bani of devte outside the dar of sacha mahal.  One also sees own jyot in this sunn at the same time. 
4th is Sunn samadhi. The one where gurbani mentions the vision/ darshan of immaculate niranjan. This is where nirankar is permanently. This is sach-khand. It is only accessed after he opens the door. This is the Primal Nirankar void, behind the ong.
 
The layout of darbar sahib also constructs the journey of these sunns. 
 
I have found references to these sunns in gurbani, but they aren't easy to explain.  I can attempt a very slow step by step explanation to the pangtees and shabads, but seriously, without experiencing at least 2nd or 3rd sunn, or hearing raags, .doing sant mandli,  etc..most seekers will find it difficult to digest or understand.  
 

Yes, it is mostly crap that you'll find online.
This is definitely possible. You CAN have the necessary info revealed to you, but only in bhagti as far as I'm aware.
Whatever is necessary, and that which would help in further spiritual development can be revealed to you.  You can learn much more about yourself and purpose than you could from some other science.  It comes via sunn, because that's where it is stored. Every time you take entrees into chautha padh, whether momentarily or for long periods: you gain access to this information.    You're surti has already been into the zones of chauthapadh(outside of rajogun, tamogu and satogun), because of the levels you are at.    Only what is necessary is what you will need to know, -->This, is the primary fact you have to remember. It can take a while to start piecing the piece of the jigsaw together, but the universal play(Gobind) can begin to make more sense.
 
Definitely helps motivate you further and I'm sure you will be able to.   I have a fair idea about myself and would say it's enough for me at this stage.  One can also realize the pre-ordained that may have been re-written due to ones bhagti (raising of surti-consciousness)  The knowledge is undeniably one strong reason for further growth in prem as well as correlating with hukam. It can give a real direction and purpose for one's life that can aid in developing maya dissociation skills.
The shabad can be used, especially if you have naam/shabad. i.e. when you cross the 1st bhavsagar.  I have no idea if someone can obtain it in any other way, and quite frankly, I wouldn't be interested. There is no doubt, that ALL of us have practiced some degree of devotional worship in our previous lives-> reason for this janam. Gurbani says.."Pūrab janam bẖagaṯ kar ā▫e gur har har har har bẖagaṯ jama▫ī▫ā." (Because of devotional worship in my past incarnations, I have been born into this life. The Guru has inspired me to worship the Lord, Har, Har, Har, Har.)
I will tell you what I know and understand in this matter as per truth in gurbani.  The main tip I'd suggest is to have pavan balanced. When pavan is balanced, your thoughts will be in hukam. Certain cluster thoughts can arise suddenly in this state whist samaoing into the shabad. (need to understand difference between cluster & sequential thoughts-->google or can elaborate). In the past, I followed this method with reference to sikhi's understanding of "Thoughts" .  Thoughts are maya (Rajo,tamo or sato) and are associated with elements pavan, fire and water.   My initial insights/awareness of this knowledge were in these states of hukam.   I can give you further details in pm about other forms of how this stuff can reveal itself. But you should get the idea, and you may have already been made aware but didn't realize it.
 
You should also check this previous thread for more info ...
 

Hey young bro- well done!
I didn't see this thread until now, but I see you've been given plenty of responses.  I too, see the aura's that you are mentioning, though I've never spoken about them too much because most people don't understand and think your nuts!
I know it really gets you when you first begin to notice it and then out of curiosity you start looking around everywhere. You start to notice the different shades and colours and then it can shock you when something like a banana emits a completely unpredictable colour. After a while, I interpreted these aura visions as something where you inner sight is opening up to the outside.
Nowadays, I don't pay attention to it but I know it's there and I know I can. You may slowly develop your own kind of method whereby you will associate it with energies. I know I'm always blabbing about energies, but it is something much bigger than we think.  In relation to this thread, you can or  you will begin to develop a method to associate the auras with energies. I find this more informative because you can sense good and bad energies. This can be very useful if you are into self-healing because you are able to see and feel darker energy areas around your own body. This makes it easier to self heal as you can concentrate your dhyian on that area and using techniques, can start removing the negative and darker auras. You can also use this same ability to see darker energies in others but I tend to stay away from going in that direction. I can tell you that about a year ago I could see and sense a darker aura around someone's head that was visiting us. A few months later she was diagnosed with a brain tumor. Maybe that was coincidental or just something else, but I don't go around trying to feel peoples energies any more because I need the energies to be fixing myself and continuing my own journey. At the gurdwara, I have on occasions been able to pick up and sense members of sangat with high spiritual avasthas, and that's the only time when I genuinely feel that I'm not intruding into another persons privacy zone.
With what people say about focusing on this stuff or not, I can say that Yes, you shouldn't let it distract you from your own simran. Coming back to energies, I find that the personal inner energy that one may use for this or other riddi siddis, leaves you drained and losing your own inner light. I think the most positive result of auras and few other siddis that followed was the recognition and connection with everything around us as ONE. You become more reassured and convinced about this after you may realise how you can connect your own aura energy with another energy, ...and that's when some heavy distractions can begin that may defy some universal laws that we openly accept.
 
Title of this thread is "seeing auras"". I would suggest that you start "feeling auras" and then move on and focus dhyian on what you started initially. You will know that you are back on track because the next intriguing event should most probably be something personally spiritual.

It's not that sharing makes you spiritually "dumber", it's that when you share the other person might start to develop an expectation of that same experience.
The key is not to expect what the other person experienced in your own journey, rather trust God and remember he has a unique experience that is only for you, unique to your journey.