kdsingh80

You are totally forgetting that in future ,the demographics of India will much favour muslims rather than Hindu's.Already Muslims are officially 13.4% and this does not include 40-50 million illegal bangladeshi's .so Unofficially there population could be around 20% at present.Hindu and sikhs are much more money minded and look to western type of model which means less and less kids in Future for these communities While muslims believe in sharia and more kids.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-hughes/balkanizing-pakistan-a-co_b_635950.html

Balkanizing Pakistan: A Collective National Security Strategy
Michael Hughes, Geopolitical journalist
Posted: July 6, 2010 05:43 AM

Breaking Pakistan to Fix It
The argument for Balkanizing Pakistan or, more specifically, fragmenting the Islamic Republic so it's easier to police and economically develop, has been on the table since Pakistan's birth in 1947 when the country was spit out of a British laboratory. And lately, the concept is looking more appealing by the day, because as a result of flawed boundaries combined with the nexus between military rule and Islamic extremism, Pakistan now finds itself on a rapid descent toward certain collapse and the country's leaders stubbornly refuse to do the things required to change course. But before allowing Pakistan to commit state suicide, self-disintegrate and further destabilize the region, the international community can beat them to the punch and deconstruct the country less violently.
To quell any doubts about Pakistan's seemingly uncontrollable spiral into darkness, just recently, Foreign Policy Magazine ranked Pakistan as the tenth most failed state on earth and it would seem its leaders are hell bent on securing the number one slot - an honor it can add to their already dubious distinction as the world's largest incubator of jihadist extremism. Afghanistan will never see peace or prosperity with a neighbor like Pakistan and the U.S. will always be threatened by terrorist plots spawned in Pakistan's lawless regions - like the most recent Times Square bombing.
The most popular approach to fragmentation is to break off and allow Afghanistan to absorb Pakistan's North-West Frontier Province (NWFP) and the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), which would unite the Pashtun tribes. In addition, the provinces of Balochistan and Sindh would become independent sovereign states, leaving Punjab as a standalone entity.
Balkanization is based on the premise that the weak central government in Islamabad is incapable of governing Pakistan's frontiers, which have become the number one source of regional instability. The governing Punjabi elite have neglected the other three major ethnic groups - the Sindhis, Pashtuns, and Baluchis, primarily because a majority of Pakistan's budget is spent on the military rather than economic development, schooling or infrastructure. Only 2% of Pakistan's GDP, for example, is spent on education despite the fact Pakistan's literacy rate stands at 57%.
Minority groups have also been underrepresented in institutions such as Pakistan's military - which is the country's most powerful entity. Punjabis who represent 40% of the population constitute 90% of the armed forces. Pakistan's own history provides a prime case study of what happens when an ethnic group can no longer tolerate political and economic disregard. After a quarter century of strife the Bengalis rebelled, seceded and founded Bangladesh in 1971.
If the Balkanization solution is ever put in motion, accusations will surely fly that it's yet another example of U.S. imperialism and neoconservatism run amok. However, this would be a diplomatic and multilateral effort, plus, it is more about reversing the inequities of British colonialism than it is building some new world order.
Inherent Instability
Pakistan's problems began when the British drew its boundaries haphazardly, which was primarily a product of incompetence and haste than maniacal design. According to an article in the New York Times last year, British colonial officer, Sir Cyril Radcliffe was given six weeks to carve a Muslim-majority state from British India although he had never even been there before. Radcliffe's private secretary was quoted as saying that Sir Cyril "was a bit flummoxed by the whole thing. It was a rather impossible assignment, really. To partition that subcontinent in six weeks was absurd." It would be a comical anecdote except for the fact that hundreds of thousands of people died in the ethnic cleansing that followed as a direct result of British carelessness.
Pakistan's border with Afghanistan - the poorly-marked Durand Line - had been drawn in 1893, also by the British, but it was never meant to be a long-term legally-binding boundary. The faux demarcation split the Pashtuns in half. By reinstating the original natural boundaries, Pakistan's western provinces would be returned to Afghanistan and the Pashtun tribes would be reunited. Such a move would also remove a strategic advantage for the Afghan Taliban, who can easily blend in amongst fellow Pashtuns on the Pakistani side of the border today.
The British did not only gift Pakistan with lethal boundaries, according to renowned Pakistani journalist Ahmed Rashid, Pakistan inherited a "security state" from British rule, described by scholars as "the viceregal tradition" or "a permanent state of martial law". Intellectual Christopher Hitchens asserted Pakistan has been a fiefdom of the military for most of its short existence. As was once said of Prussia: Pakistan is not a country that has an army, but an army that has a country. Hitchens also said the country was doomed to be a dysfunctional military theocracy from day one - beginning with the very name of the country itself:
But then, there is a certain hypocrisy inscribed in the very origins and nature of "Pakistan". The name is no more than an acronym, confected in the 1930s at Cambridge University by a NW Muslim propagandist named Chaudhri Rahmat Ali. It stands for Punjab, Afghania, Kashmir, and Indus-Sind, plus the suffix "-stan," meaning "land." In the Urdu tongue, the resulting word means "Land of the Pure." The country is a cobbling together of regional, religious, and ethnic nationalisms, and its founding, in 1947, resulted in Pakistan's becoming, along with Israel, one of the two "faith-based" states to emerge from the partitionist policy of a dying British colonialism. Far from being a "Land of the Pure," Pakistan is one of the clearest demonstrations of the futility of defining a nation by religion, and one of the textbook failures of a state and a society.
Pakistan deteriorated throughout the decades because of its focus on building the military and developing Islamic extremist groups to use as weapons in their eternal obsessive struggle against India. It's true the U.S. helped Pakistan build these groups since the beginning of the Cold War, but America learned on 9/11 they had created a Frankenstein monster that now needed to be slain.
Many analysts have suggested India is less of a national security threat to Pakistan than its homegrown terrorist groups, many of which have openly declared their mission to topple the state, which would allow jihadists to secure nuclear materials. Yet, based on its strategic decision to foster extremism and its recent public support for Taliban rule in Afghanistan, it appears the biggest existential threat to Pakistan is its own political and military leaders.
The Last Straw
With that being said, Balkanization does seem like an extreme step at first blush, and perhaps Pakistan should be given another chance. Yet, after considering Pakistan's historic and current relationship with Al Qaeda - it becomes much easier to justify.
Since the war began in 2001 the U.S. has asked Pakistan to root out extremists from sanctuaries in a Rhode Island-sized area called North Waziristan, chief among them being the lethal Haqqani Network. However, Pakistan's army chief General Ashfaq Kayani asserted his forces were too bogged down fighting the Pakistani Taliban elsewhere in places like South Waziristan, Orakzai Agency and various districts across the NWFP.

I contacted an Afghan intelligence analyst about this and he assessed General Kayani's claim with one single word: rubbish. The Pakistan army consists of 500,000 active duty troops and another 500,000 on reserve. If Pakistan truly wanted to capture the Haqqani Network they would be able to drag them out of their caves by their beards within a few days.
In a movement that should have floored U.S. policymakers, Kayani was brazen enough to try and inveigle Afghanistan to strike a power-sharing arrangement with the Haqqanis. And Kayani, apparently the spokesperson for the Haqqani group, said they'd be willing to split from and denounce Al Qaeda, which is President Obama's primary rationale for the war. However, there is a higher probability of General Kayani converting to Hinduism than there is of the Haqqani Network ever being decoupled from Al Qaeda.
According to the Long War Journal, Siraj Haqqani, their leader, sits on Al Qaeda's decision-making body. Haqqani's friendship with Osama bin Laden dates back to the war against the Soviets in the 1980s and it was Haqqani that ensured safe passage into Pakistan for many Al Qaeda figures after the collapse of the Taliban in 2001. An Institute for the Study of War analysis concluded that Haqqani was "irreconcilable" and negotiations with him would actually strengthen Al Qaeda and would undermine the raison d'etre for U.S. involvement in Afghanistan over the past decade.

In other words, the Haqqani Network is Al Qaeda. Pakistan has had a close relationship with the Haqqanis for over 30 years, who are still seen as a crucial anti-Indian asset. So, for nine years the Pakistanis protected the Haqqanis and claimed ignorance as to the whereabouts of Mullah Omar, Osama bin Laden and the Quetta Shura. Nine years, nearly $300 billion dollars and 1900 dead coalition soldiers later, the U.S. has officially verified that the entire war effort has been focused on the wrong side of the mountains.
A stable Afghanistan is in Pakistan's best interests, but this message has been preached time and again with little to no results, and the U.S. has waited long enough for Pakistan's leaders to uproot the extremists that orchestrated 9/11. But now, it appears as if the international community will have to do it for them.

Dalsingh

The people who try to interpret sikhi from sanatan point of view should think of consequences on common sikhs of India on it.They should first think like a common man rather than an intellectual.Already in India
many serials are showing strange image of Punjabi's,mainly of hinduised sikhs.They show them with typical sikh names yet they show their men clean shaven and women like typical sikh women wearing salwaar kameez
They show them worshipping to Guru granth sahib and also worshipping hindu gods.these TV serials have mass following especially among women.If sanatan point of view got more popularity then I am afraid this is going
to be the future of sikh community of India

WHY the students from pakistan is not in the list?

WHY the students from pakistan is not in the list?

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/fugitive-amritpal-singh-arrested-by-punjab-moga-police-sources-101682213724325.html
 
All online James bond Sikhs were 100% that he was already arrested.

I also want to add we need kitaabi vidwaan as well as spiritual vidwaan in quom.Both have their own importance.
If tommorow difference arise in a court of non sikhs whether a person is a sikh or not then kitaabi vidwaan can only provide solution to the court.

Kabul gurdwara attack: Sikhs from Afghanistan write to Indian Embassy, Amit Shah, seek evacuation
https://indianexpress.com/article/india/kabul-attack-sikhs-from-afghanistan-write-to-indian-embassy-amit-shah-seek-evacuation-6347946/
 
Waiting for abuse from madman who was pretending to speak behalf of all Afghan Sikh's that they don't want to leave Afghanistan

The benefit of reservation was not given to Budhist Dalits it is only recently they India accepted that they too should be included in the reservation category.I even read that Sardar Patel was not willing extend benefit to Lower caste Sikhs ,but Thanks to Master Tara Singh the benefits were extended to them O/W all the lower castes Sikhs would had declared themselves Hindu's

No matter what Ravidassia's say the fact is they will never ask GOI to recognise them as separate religion as if their demand is fulfilled then reservation benefits will be stripped of as the entire religion can never be in the category of reservation

The demand for sikh nations starts with Idea that all religions in world have their nations , sikhs too need 1 to protect of sikh communnity worldwide .The best idea is buy an island from a nation and make it  a sikh nation 

atleast post a working link

If Guru's prior to Guru gobind singh ordered Sikhs to keep kesh then don't you think any non sikh historian could had noted this
important change.

I was reading a paper of

Contemporary Evidence on Sikh Rites and Rituals in
the Eighteenth Century
Karamjit K Malhotra

and it is written in it that "A report from the court
of Emperor Bahadur Shah, dated 24 May 1710, refers to the dismissal of the
Masands by Guru Gobind Singh by one stroke of the pen to establish the
Khalsa. ‘It was settled by him that the Sikhs of the Khalsa would not cut the hair
of the head, moustaches and beard and would be known as the Sikhs of the
Khalsa’. The report goes on to add that a great disturbance occurred among the
community of the Khatris over the new injunctions, due to which marriages
between the two groups were given up. Actual fighting took place at Ramdaspur
in pargana Patti.27 Writing in 1728-9, the author of the Asrar-i Samadi refers to
the followers of Banda Bahadur as ‘Singhs’ who wore unshorn hair; he refers
also to deg and teg.28
"
So it looks that keeping uncut hair was not acceptable to a section of khatri's and there was even fighting.

Also Bhai sahib singh, one of panj pyara was barber.It is written that he gave his occupation of barber after becoming singh

5. Bhai Sahib Singh (1662 - 1705)

The fourth to answer the call of Guru Gobind Singh and offer his head was Bhai Sahib Singh
Birth: Bidar, present day Karnataka, India, 1663. Born Sahib Chand.
Family: Son of Bhai Guru Narayana and his wife Ankamma Bai of the Nai clan.
Occupation: Barber.
Initiation: Anand Pur, 1699. Age 37.
Death: Chamkaur, December 7, 1705. Martyred age 44.

Upon initiation, Sahib Chand gave up the occupation and alliance of his Nai caste to become Sahib Singh and join the Khalsa warriors. The meaning of Sahib is lordly or masterful and Singh is lion, qualities inherent in the five beloved Panj Pyare. Bhai Sahib Singh fought beside Guru Gobind Singh and the Khalsa in Anand Pur and at the battle of Chamkaur in December 7, 1705 where he died.

http://sikhism.about.com/od/historicalpersonalities/tp/Panj-Pyare-The-Five-Beloved.htm

If Bhai sahib singh was cutting hair before becoming a khalsa , then does it not point that cutting hair was not something totally unacceptable.he was a devout sikh that's why he gave his head

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Nirankari-spiritual-head-Hardev-Singh-dies-in-road-accident-in-Canada/articleshow/52253781.cms

I was too referring to muslim community.Shoab malik the captain of pakistan in T20 world cup cricket apologised to entire muslim community after loss from India in Finals in 2007 .The pakistan cricket team used to beleive that they are
playing for entire muslim world

I know Its not safe bet in career.My own cousin is Number 2 Indian Discuss throw player despite being from a very middle class back ground and he is not Earning much.I expect more from Sikhs from abroad because developed countries offer more monetery support than India.Also sikh temparament and physique can make them very good players.

Btw if sikhs are becoming accountants ,IT engineers lawyers then where is the martial spirit?

Problem these days is Hindutva supporters want to portray Maratha as Hindutva warriors fighting for Hindu rashtra while the reality is Marathas were more interested in chauth and money rather than fighting for Hinduism. The invasions of Nadir shah , Abdali happened in their time and they did nothing to protect northern india. The rise of Hyder Ali and Tipu Sultan happened in their time in Karnataka and they did nothing. Maratha Rapes of Bengali women is known as bargi atrocities
The Hindu Maratha warriors invaded and occupied western Bengal up to the Hooghly River.[19] During that period of invasion by the Marathas, warriors called as "Bargis", perpetrated atrocities against the local Hindu Bengalis.[19][14] As reported in Burdwan Kingdom's and European sources, the Bargis are said to have plundered villages.[20] The resulting casualties of Bargi onslaught against in Bengal are considered to be among the deadliest massacres in Indian history.[20] According to the 18th-century Bengali text Maharashtra Purana written by Gangaram:[19]
According to the Bengali text Maharashtra Purana:[19]
The Bargi atrocities were corroborated by contemporary Dutch and British accounts.[14] Jan Kersseboom, chief of the Dutch East India Company factory in Bengal, estimated that perhaps around 400,000 people in Bihar and western Bengal were killed in the raids by the Bargis.[21] This devastated Bengal's economy, as many of the people killed included merchants, textile weavers, silk winders, and mulberry cultivators.[17][21] The Cossimbazar factory reported in 1742, for example, that the Bargis burnt down many houses along with weavers' looms.[21]
British writer Robert Orme reported that the Marathas caused so much distress to the local population that many of them "were continually taking flight" in large numbers to Calcutta whenever they heard rumours of the Marathas coming.[17] Many people in western Bengal also fled to take shelter in East Bengal, fearing for their lives in the wake of the Maratha attacks.[22]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maratha_invasions_of_Bengal
 
   
 

Problem these days is Hindutva supporters want to portray Maratha as Hindutva warriors fighting for Hindu rashtra while the reality is Marathas were more interested in chauth and money rather than fighting for Hinduism. The invasions of Nadir shah , Abdali happened in their time and they did nothing to protect northern india. The rise of Hyder Ali and Tipu Sultan happened in their time in Karnataka and they did nothing. Maratha Rapes of Bengali women is known as bargi atrocities
The Hindu Maratha warriors invaded and occupied western Bengal up to the Hooghly River.[19] During that period of invasion by the Marathas, warriors called as "Bargis", perpetrated atrocities against the local Hindu Bengalis.[19][14] As reported in Burdwan Kingdom's and European sources, the Bargis are said to have plundered villages.[20] The resulting casualties of Bargi onslaught against in Bengal are considered to be among the deadliest massacres in Indian history.[20] According to the 18th-century Bengali text Maharashtra Purana written by Gangaram:[19]
According to the Bengali text Maharashtra Purana:[19]
The Bargi atrocities were corroborated by contemporary Dutch and British accounts.[14] Jan Kersseboom, chief of the Dutch East India Company factory in Bengal, estimated that perhaps around 400,000 people in Bihar and western Bengal were killed in the raids by the Bargis.[21] This devastated Bengal's economy, as many of the people killed included merchants, textile weavers, silk winders, and mulberry cultivators.[17][21] The Cossimbazar factory reported in 1742, for example, that the Bargis burnt down many houses along with weavers' looms.[21]
British writer Robert Orme reported that the Marathas caused so much distress to the local population that many of them "were continually taking flight" in large numbers to Calcutta whenever they heard rumours of the Marathas coming.[17] Many people in western Bengal also fled to take shelter in East Bengal, fearing for their lives in the wake of the Maratha attacks.[22]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maratha_invasions_of_Bengal
 
   
 

Problem these days is Hindutva supporters want to portray Maratha as Hindutva warriors fighting for Hindu rashtra while the reality is Marathas were more interested in chauth and money rather than fighting for Hinduism. The invasions of Nadir shah , Abdali happened in their time and they did nothing to protect northern india. The rise of Hyder Ali and Tipu Sultan happened in their time in Karnataka and they did nothing. Maratha Rapes of Bengali women is known as bargi atrocities
The Hindu Maratha warriors invaded and occupied western Bengal up to the Hooghly River.[19] During that period of invasion by the Marathas, warriors called as "Bargis", perpetrated atrocities against the local Hindu Bengalis.[19][14] As reported in Burdwan Kingdom's and European sources, the Bargis are said to have plundered villages.[20] The resulting casualties of Bargi onslaught against in Bengal are considered to be among the deadliest massacres in Indian history.[20] According to the 18th-century Bengali text Maharashtra Purana written by Gangaram:[19]
According to the Bengali text Maharashtra Purana:[19]
The Bargi atrocities were corroborated by contemporary Dutch and British accounts.[14] Jan Kersseboom, chief of the Dutch East India Company factory in Bengal, estimated that perhaps around 400,000 people in Bihar and western Bengal were killed in the raids by the Bargis.[21] This devastated Bengal's economy, as many of the people killed included merchants, textile weavers, silk winders, and mulberry cultivators.[17][21] The Cossimbazar factory reported in 1742, for example, that the Bargis burnt down many houses along with weavers' looms.[21]
British writer Robert Orme reported that the Marathas caused so much distress to the local population that many of them "were continually taking flight" in large numbers to Calcutta whenever they heard rumours of the Marathas coming.[17] Many people in western Bengal also fled to take shelter in East Bengal, fearing for their lives in the wake of the Maratha attacks.[22]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maratha_invasions_of_Bengal
 
   
 

Problem these days is Hindutva supporters want to portray Maratha as Hindutva warriors fighting for Hindu rashtra while the reality is Marathas were more interested in chauth and money rather than fighting for Hinduism. The invasions of Nadir shah , Abdali happened in their time and they did nothing to protect northern india. The rise of Hyder Ali and Tipu Sultan happened in their time in Karnataka and they did nothing. Maratha Rapes of Bengali women is known as bargi atrocities
The Hindu Maratha warriors invaded and occupied western Bengal up to the Hooghly River.[19] During that period of invasion by the Marathas, warriors called as "Bargis", perpetrated atrocities against the local Hindu Bengalis.[19][14] As reported in Burdwan Kingdom's and European sources, the Bargis are said to have plundered villages.[20] The resulting casualties of Bargi onslaught against in Bengal are considered to be among the deadliest massacres in Indian history.[20] According to the 18th-century Bengali text Maharashtra Purana written by Gangaram:[19]
According to the Bengali text Maharashtra Purana:[19]
The Bargi atrocities were corroborated by contemporary Dutch and British accounts.[14] Jan Kersseboom, chief of the Dutch East India Company factory in Bengal, estimated that perhaps around 400,000 people in Bihar and western Bengal were killed in the raids by the Bargis.[21] This devastated Bengal's economy, as many of the people killed included merchants, textile weavers, silk winders, and mulberry cultivators.[17][21] The Cossimbazar factory reported in 1742, for example, that the Bargis burnt down many houses along with weavers' looms.[21]
British writer Robert Orme reported that the Marathas caused so much distress to the local population that many of them "were continually taking flight" in large numbers to Calcutta whenever they heard rumours of the Marathas coming.[17] Many people in western Bengal also fled to take shelter in East Bengal, fearing for their lives in the wake of the Maratha attacks.[22]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maratha_invasions_of_Bengal
 
   
 

Problem these days is Hindutva supporters want to portray Maratha as Hindutva warriors fighting for Hindu rashtra while the reality is Marathas were more interested in chauth and money rather than fighting for Hinduism. The invasions of Nadir shah , Abdali happened in their time and they did nothing to protect northern india. The rise of Hyder Ali and Tipu Sultan happened in their time in Karnataka and they did nothing. Maratha Rapes of Bengali women is known as bargi atrocities
The Hindu Maratha warriors invaded and occupied western Bengal up to the Hooghly River.[19] During that period of invasion by the Marathas, warriors called as "Bargis", perpetrated atrocities against the local Hindu Bengalis.[19][14] As reported in Burdwan Kingdom's and European sources, the Bargis are said to have plundered villages.[20] The resulting casualties of Bargi onslaught against in Bengal are considered to be among the deadliest massacres in Indian history.[20] According to the 18th-century Bengali text Maharashtra Purana written by Gangaram:[19]
According to the Bengali text Maharashtra Purana:[19]
The Bargi atrocities were corroborated by contemporary Dutch and British accounts.[14] Jan Kersseboom, chief of the Dutch East India Company factory in Bengal, estimated that perhaps around 400,000 people in Bihar and western Bengal were killed in the raids by the Bargis.[21] This devastated Bengal's economy, as many of the people killed included merchants, textile weavers, silk winders, and mulberry cultivators.[17][21] The Cossimbazar factory reported in 1742, for example, that the Bargis burnt down many houses along with weavers' looms.[21]
British writer Robert Orme reported that the Marathas caused so much distress to the local population that many of them "were continually taking flight" in large numbers to Calcutta whenever they heard rumours of the Marathas coming.[17] Many people in western Bengal also fled to take shelter in East Bengal, fearing for their lives in the wake of the Maratha attacks.[22]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maratha_invasions_of_Bengal
 
   
 

Here is an interesting read how Timur lame defeated Delhi sultan

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur

The Sultan's army was easily defeated on December 17, 1398. On this day the army of Sultan Mahmud Khan had prepared 120 war elephants armored with chain mail. He had put poison on the tusks, which put fright into the Tatar lines. Timur took action and the Tatars dug out a trench in front of their positions. Timur then took his camels and placed all the wood and hay he could on their backs. When the war elephants charged he lit the camels on fire and then prodded them with iron sticks. They charged at the elephants howling in pain: Timur had understood that elephants were easily panicked. Faced with the strange spectacle of the burning camels flying straight at them with flames leaping from their backs, the elephants turned around and stampeded back toward their own lines. Timur entered Delhi and the city was sacked, destroyed, and left in ruins. Before the battle for Delhi, Timur executed 100,000 captives, mostly Hindus:[5][29]

I am planning to buy Sicques, Tigers, or Thieves.Want to know if anybody has read it? Is it worth to buy or read

Dalsingh hates whites thats why he is growing Kale lol

Christians have deeply penetrated the poor people Indian sub continent. Recently My brother was searching for baby caretaker and we hired a lady in mid 40s with Hindu name . She always kept a book by her her bedside. At first my brother thought she read Geeta but was surprised when he read Bible on it. Later I asked her  why she read it and she said that her elder son is mentally retarded that's why. I asked her whether she is Christian or Hindu , she just dodged the question.
 

Dalsingh

Don't You Think if incidents like these happen again and again then more White Youths will Join/become supporter of BNP/EDL Groups.So who is main culprit here
Pakistani First came to their land for job and now they are grooming their girls.In almost all societies of world it is the right wing groups that protect
their own people.