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Gurbilas Patshahi 6 says nothing more than Guru Sahib defeating Painde Khan and then shielding him from the sun, whilst Painde Khan begged for forgiveness. I am adding the page for you to read and see if you can pick up anything I may have missed:
 

I'm more inclined to this view as well.

Mata jee was the daughter of the Qazi. The Qazi had got into an argument with Srimaan Baba Budha jee regarding an issue. During the course of the conversation, he made a comment, saying that I will become Maharaaj's son-in-law to get the money (or something). Baba jee replied back by commenting that Maharaaj will become your son-in-law. Now, Baba jee was a Gurmukh Brahamgyani and his bachan was bound to come to fruition. Hence, Mata Kaulan jee always loved Maharaaj as her husband, which implied that Maharaaj was like a son-in-law of the Qazi.
 
Bhul chuk maaf

No footnotes on page.

This building houses the antim sanskar asthan of Mata Kaulan. According to GP 6, Guru HarGobind Sahib performed these rites. The building is not old oldish, it certainly is old but seems to be a structure of some 3 or 4 decades in age. You can see that the photos I took are from far away, because this ground actually belongs to the Sodhis and they are very adamant that no Sikhs can cross into their land. You can see that the land around is is quite unkempt. But the Sodhis don't seem to be too interested in this place themselves. After going to this place, I spoke with a person who has contacts with SGPC and he said that he would ask them to go and see the place. The SGPC have some kind of connection with the Sodhis so that any historic places can be renovated by mutual consent.
 
At the bottom of these photos I am adding a page from GP6 and I am quite surprised at what was written. It says that Mata Kaulan was given the funeral rites of a Muslim. Now there was some debate and confusion of what Mata Kaulan's background was. Was she a hindu who was a maid/concubine of the Qazi of Lahore, or was she his muslim daughter. I think that as she was given the funeral rites of a Muslim she most likely would have been the Qazi's biological daughter.
Read and share anything you find interesting.
 

 

Saw this yesterday and it made me laugh so much, so I wanted to share it with my cyber family.
 
 

This plan still going ahead bro?

Here is the page re Mata Kaulan from Gyani Gyan Singh's "Gurbilas Patshahi 6vi":
 

 

Saw this yesterday and it made me laugh so much, so I wanted to share it with my cyber family.
 
 

Yes Gangsar and Dera Baba Wadbhag Singh are still under the Sodhis. I wil share Painde Khan's funeral place in another topic.
There are many historical places around Kartarpur. Far more than I knew of.
Were you born there @ipledgeblue ?
 
 

I don't know whether Painde Khan's funeral was done in accordance to Islamic rites or whether Guru Sahib performed agan sanskar for Painde Khan. Anyone know this?
The place where the funeral was done however is a very unimposing place and very neglected. This is heritage of Panjab but it seemed invisible to people going past it.
 
This is the actual structure of the funeral place. Could Painde Khan be buried here?
 

 
This building is right next to it. As you can see it is a very old building. And Gujjars were grazing their animals there!

 

And someone has the bright idea of painting on an advertisement there.

If you go to Sri Anandpur Sahib you can go and see the Sodhis Qila. it is truly impressive. I never went this year but have mislaid my photos from when I went about 8 years ago.

It is a place where the a child is washed and cleaned according to Mahan Kosh.

That is a great video. Ghaghri knows he can't debate with people like Jaswinder Singh. That's why he keeps running.

👉 ਢਡਰੀਆਂ ਵਾਲੇ ਅਤੇ ਇਸ ਦੇ ਸਪੋਟਰਾ ਨੂੰ ਮੂੰਹ ਤੋੜਵੇ ਜਵਾਬ 💥💥
 

photos I took of the historic Gurdwara Thamm Sahib.
 
The Thamm that Guru Arjan Dev Ji built was destroyed by the Moghals in 1740s (i  think) but the gurdwara was rebuilt again by Dal Panth. This used to belong to the Sodhis of Kartarpur under Baba Wadhbhag Singh but he gave it over to the Guru Khalsa Panth after Moghals took it over. There is nothing surviving from Guru Sahib's personal possessions here though.
My Guru blessed my eyes and heart with a visit to this sacredplace. I didn't know there was so much history to Kartarpur. There are many other historic Gurdwaras here in close proximity inc where Guru Teg Bahadur was married to Mata Gujari, the chabucha of Guru Hargobind Sahib, the antim sanskar place of Mata Kaulan etc. I will put those up soon as well.
Parts of the Qila (fortress) that Guru Sahib built is still there. It is under the control of the Sodhis of Kartarpur still.

 

Thanks bro, have corrected it.
 
Yes and yes.

Thanks bro, have corrected it.
 
Yes and yes.

You mean "married to Mata Gujari jee"?
What is a Chabucha?
Thanks
 
Bhul chuk maaf

photos I took of the historic Gurdwara Thamm Sahib.
 
The Thamm that Guru Arjan Dev Ji built was destroyed by the Moghals in 1740s (i  think) but the gurdwara was rebuilt again by Dal Panth. This used to belong to the Sodhis of Kartarpur under Baba Wadhbhag Singh but he gave it over to the Guru Khalsa Panth after Moghals took it over. There is nothing surviving from Guru Sahib's personal possessions here though.
My Guru blessed my eyes and heart with a visit to this sacredplace. I didn't know there was so much history to Kartarpur. There are many other historic Gurdwaras here in close proximity inc where Guru Teg Bahadur was married to Mata Gujari, the chabucha of Guru Hargobind Sahib, the antim sanskar place of Mata Kaulan etc. I will put those up soon as well.
Parts of the Qila (fortress) that Guru Sahib built is still there. It is under the control of the Sodhis of Kartarpur still.

 

Good points there. I would also extend this to the 5 chor that fight Sikhs as well.

ok. let the fun begin.

i had a similiar experience when i went to darbar sahib for the 1st time in my life in 1995. those things you mention etc. but i didnt see anything that looked male or female. But i had a feeling that i had come "home".

an experience with the spirit world left me with no doubt, of life after this world.

This will work if you visit India only. I go to singh brothers and csjs when i go to india. Whenever I see a book that i want I look for it on amazon india as they do cash on delivery for most books. I get them sent to my aunt and then will collect them from her whenever i go. Books are a lot cheaper in india. If cost isn't an issue, then amazon usa/uk will also do international deliveries. Otherwise I have found some good books on ebay as well.