das Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Hello everybody, In one of the Gurdwara in our town did the sewa of Khanda with only milk saying that bathing Khanda with Kachi Lassi is BrahmanVaad (because Hindus does this to their idols). I do NOT agree with them. I read and hear that spiritually Milk is considered to be Satvik and pure. But do any of you has more information on the following: * Any case where our Gurus and Sants have said anything about "How to do give bath/sewa to Khanda before replacing cloth". * What is the significance of Kachi Lassi (basically Milk and Water) in terms of Spiritual. * ANy other information that would prove that we did not do it because we're following Hindus rituals. We used to do it because it has some significance and Hindus and other religions did this for the same purpose. These so-called modern day scholors reject anything that is previous and Hindu related by saying it is Brahmanvaad! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaikaara Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 in this brahman vaad phobia they can go ahead and declare themselves arabs too ! but kachchi lassi is part of panch amrit which is doodh, dahi, ghee, sugar , honey 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted April 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Thanks jaikaara....keep it coming 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mit Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Thanks Jaikaara. regards to brahmanvaad, please can you define what this is, is it all related to hinduism? Alot of sikhi has been christianised and we have lost alot of sikhi. I.e the debate and sri dasam granth, people saying that this is written by a hindu pandit etc... Have people forgotten why we were called singh (to infuse the shakti of chandi in us) does that make this brahmanvaad matt? I have had many debates, one being about the yantras and i got called an agent of RSS.... We need to study our religion. sikhi has now become a 'culture' as opposed to sikhi. To be honest, The Katchi lassi is used to clean shastars, we should apply tilak of sandal on the shastars. When the gurus gave their gaddi to another, they gave a coconut, 5 gold coins and applied tilak on the forehead of the new guru..... please can you define 'Brahmvaad'? Mit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Brahmanvaad is a slang used for sikhs influenced by rituals considered hindu, it has been used and misused time and again by sikhs and dalit activists too. you are right the anti dasam mindsets use it for puratan sikhs in reference to Sri Dasam Granth maharaj. these people have something which i term as hinduphobia, they fail to realise that we share the common heritage so some concepts are bound to be common. be it sikhs, hindus jains buddhists or any dharam born in india. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laadli Fauj Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 "baahman roti vi khaande aa, asi roti khaani chhad jaiyye?" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 hahahaha...hor roti khaan de baad pachayi roti nu kaddhan vi jaandha hai...oh vi chchad de 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURYADEV Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Bhamaanvadi... and proud of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 ek ta photo te fer aa statement...kyun pange lendhe ho singh ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mit Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 .... thats another reason we dont chatka cows because of the 'milk/lassi' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mit Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 i want to ask one question what does the term 'Gur Easer, Gur Gorakh, Gur Parbhatee Mayeii' mean in Japji Sahib ji? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Guru is Ishwar, Guru is Gorakh (nath samparday de guru) Guru is Parvati (consort of Shiva, form of Bhagauti shakti ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mit Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 thanks bro, whats 'nath samparday de gur'? mit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 check this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nath 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mit Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 thank you! does this mean that, rather than worship the devtay, but to look at them as a form of shakti. i.e bhagauti? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 not always, what it means is the Guru is all powerful, now here the Guru means the Supreme Akaal Purakh the Waheguru, all our 10 Gurus were worshippers of Akaal the Supreme Guru. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mit Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 you the man! thank you bro! Anyone one twitter here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 me nothing bro...just my 2 cents ..rest the sangat will correct me if i have gone wrong somewehre 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaljug Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 I have had many debates, one being about the yantras and i got called an agent of RSS.... We need to study our religion. sikhi has now become a 'culture' as opposed to sikhi. To be honest, What did you say about yantars? What relation do you think yantars have with Sikhi (honest question, not criticism)? K. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mit Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 i read some thing in the Mukt Marg Granth, hence me asking bro. i had a coconut today. does that make me hindu mat? (joke) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 did u keep it with u ? or did u eat it ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mit Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 i ate it with cheese and avacado! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 eeks ! not a good combo..u can grind it ..add some onion garlic coriander and green chillies and make a nice chutney ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted April 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Anyone having more information on Panj Amrit (Milk, Curd, Ghee, Sugar, Honey) and if possible some references in Gurbani/Vars/Granths etc. Basically, my intention is to prepare article (with Sangat's help) and then paste on the Gurdwara which is deadly against Kassi Lassi. My intention is NOT to prove something to the management of that Gurdwara, but just want to bring something truthful to the Sangat (specially youth) because that management is just mind washing everybody every week. Kindly, provide me more information on Kachi Lassi (being part of Panj Amrit) and why Kanda is given bath with Kachi Lassi. Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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