Haridwar Police Detains Hundreds Of Sikh Devotees

[OnPathToSikhi]

Haridwar police detains hundreds of Sikh devotees; Prevents samagam at the site of Gurdwara Gyan Godri

November 6, 2014 | By Parmjit Singh

Uttrakhand, India: Uttrakhand Police reportedly arrested S. Gurucharan Singh Babbar along with many prominent Sikh leaders today early morning at 4.00 A.M. at Haridwar’s Jwalapur Subzi Mandi. Gurcharan Singh Babbar of All India Sikh Conference had declared to celebrate the Parkash Gurpurb of Guru Nanak Ji on November 06 at the place of Gurdwara Gyan Godri Sahib at Har Ki Pauri in Haridwar.

Gurcharan Singh Babbar addressing the media [File Photo]

It is notable that Gurdwara Gyan Godri was a historic Sikh shrine at Haridwara that marked the memory of Guru Nanak Sahib Ji’s visit to the place and signified the rejection of superstitious rituals by Guru Sahib. The Gurdwara Sahib was destroyed during November 1984 genocidal violence against the Sikhs.

A representative of All India Sikh Conference told Sikh Siaysat News (SSN) that Sikh were not allowed to celebrate the Prakash Utsav of Shri Guru Nanak Dev Maharaj Ji at Gurdwara Sri Gyan Godri Saheb at Haridwar ‘Har ki Pauri’.

“Hundreds of Children, Ladies and Old People have also been detained by the Police” he added.

Sikhs have been demanding the reconstruction of Gurdwara Sahib at it’s original place but he Indian state and administration is denying permissions to do so.

[Amandeep Hindustani]

Visiting religious sites for ritualistic purposes is against the tenets of Sikhism. Therefore, the decision is correct.

Sikhs or anybody else have no place at Haridwar. That's the new intolerant Hinduism speaking. See how you like it for a while.

[Koi]

Visiting religious sites for ritualistic purposes is against the tenets of Sikhism. Therefore, the decision is correct.

Sikhs or anybody else have no place at Haridwar. That's the new intolerant Hinduism speaking. See how you like it for a while.

Thank you for your extremist jihadified sentiments.

[Koi]

Visiting religious sites for ritualistic purposes is against the tenets of Sikhism. Therefore, the decision is correct.

Sikhs or anybody else have no place at Haridwar. That's the new intolerant Hinduism speaking. See how you like it for a while.

Oh, and "new" intolerant. When have people like you ever been tolerant?

[Amandeep Hindustani]

Oh, and "new" intolerant. When have people like you ever been tolerant?

The fact that millions of riff raff panths run around which are often contradictory to one another without any major issue is a testament to Hinduism.

You can watch some intolerance in Syria or go back to " santjis" speeches if you want the opposite.

The article itself is funny. It admits the temple was built to commentate Guru Nanaks trip to Haridwar who was against rituals but fails to mention the current trip by these yatris themselves is ritualistic in itself.

The sikh gurus were against pilmigrages anyways and called them useless without a pure or clean heart.

Kindly scan your "pure heart" certificate and put it up, so we can let you enter.

Probably, Haridwar will get a summons or something to a court in Arkansas.

Lol

[jaikaara]

I fail to understand what difference does it make whether a Gurdwara sahib existed or Not ..one one hand you want the Sikhs to be not identified separately on the other hand you cannot spare a piece of land ...trust me this is very confusing ...

this is another fraud being perpetrated by the tat Khalsa singha sabha fanatics. No document to show that any gurdwara ever existed at Har ki pauri. Gurus came to haridwar like any other Hindu, get over it. simple words put up or shut up.what Sikhs is asking to do is something like celebrating Janam ashtami in harmandir sahib. would that be acceptable to Sikh extremist tola?

[Amandeep Hindustani]

What is that I'm hearing about some pandits holding a protest in support of the Sikhs?

[DSG]

What is that I'm hearing about some pandits holding a protest in support of the Sikhs?

​About time , they are realizing the truth now , and if all of India did this , wow i'm sure change would be immediate.

[Amandeep Hindustani]

i can hear resident khalibans squirming about this generous act of bahmans. those who have made industry out of fake randi ronas would be really embarrassed as they excel in Bahman bashing- that's their bread and butter job

I strongly suggest that Pandit Rao instead of reading gurbani while being handcuffed at gyan godri return to Hinduism and work for the Hindus. Same goes for other Brahmins like Shashi Kant and kailash satyarthi who are vocal advocates of the sikh community.

There is no respect towards Brahmins amongst the current generation of Sikhs.

50 bucks says Pandit Rao joins AAP

[chatanga1]

Visiting religious sites for ritualistic purposes is against the tenets of Sikhism. Therefore, the decision is correct.

Sikhs or anybody else have no place at Haridwar. That's the new intolerant Hinduism speaking. See how you like it for a while.

For a while? It's the only thing we have ever known under your rule.

[chatanga1]

i can hear resident khalibans squirming about this generous act of bahmans.

You may hear some falling on the floor fainting after they hear a Hindu has extended a hand of support to the Sikhs.

[chatanga1]

There is no respect towards Brahmins amongst the current generation of Sikhs.

Those who deserve respect get it.

[chatanga1]

The article itself is funny. It admits the temple was built to commentate Guru Nanaks trip to Haridwar who was against rituals but fails to mention the current trip by these yatris themselves is ritualistic in itself.

I'm amazed that you have such low-thinking, thinking that the Sikhs went there as some kind of pilgrimage. The Sikhs have gone to secure their place of worship.

[Amandeep Hindustani]

You may hear some falling on the floor fainting after they hear a Hindu has extended a hand of support to the Sikhs.

Kuldip Nayyar and Kailash Satyarthi have been campaiging for your justice right from the starting. The very article that was posted by forum members shows that Hindus took personal risks to save hundreds if not thousands of sikhs from fellow hindu mobs.

But I have yet to see any individual sikh, group or organization step up on behalf of the minorities that were killed by the "dharm faujis"

"Black cats did it" is the general answer. Plus, you rub salt in the wounds by holding shaheedi samagams for people who are generally considered terrorists by the rest of the world.

Edited November 8, 2014 by Amandeep Hindustani

[Amandeep Hindustani]

Once again Sikhs have no business in Haridwar or at any other Hindu institution. Don't get me started about Diwali, Holi or Vaisakhi either. These Hindu religious or cultural days were hijacked by making up fake stories.

[chatanga1]

Seriously, if the agitating Sikh orgs have any documents which prove that there was a gurdwara (old revenue records, building ownership papers, rent lease, ANYTHING!) at Har Ki Pauri, they can go to the court. there are 1000s of such cases where buildings have been restored to the original owners.

That's assuming that any place of worship holds documents such as revenue records, building ownership papers, rent lease.

But why do you think if Sikhs already have 4 or 5 Gurdwaras in this area they need another one? It's not like there are thousands of Sikhs living there is it? It just doesn't stand to reason that Sikhs would want a Gurdwara there, if there wasn't one there already.

[Koi]

Once again Sikhs have no business in Haridwar or at any other Hindu institution. Don't get me started about Diwali, Holi or Vaisakhi either. These Hindu religious or cultural days were hijacked by making up fake stories.

No no please, get started on these festivals. I'm particularly interested in your view in Vaisakhi

[mamta mohan]

[chatanga1]

Kuldip Nayyar and Kailash Satyarthi have been campaiging for your justice right from the starting. The very article that was posted by forum members shows that Hindus took personal risks to save hundreds if not thousands of sikhs from fellow hindu mobs.

nayyar has been all about damage limitation. nothing else. and it's good to see that you finally acknowledge that the "hindu mobs" were the main perpetrators.

But I have yet to see any individual sikh, group or organization step up on behalf of the minorities that were killed by the "dharm faujis"

truth be told, you wouldn't be able to see them anyway as you are too blind.

"Black cats did it" is the general answer. Plus, you rub salt in the wounds by holding shaheedi samagams for people who are generally considered terrorists by the rest of the world.

don't try and deny that the indian security forces and black cats were responsible for most of the killings in this movement.

[chatanga1]

Once again Sikhs have no business in Haridwar or at any other Hindu institution. Don't get me started about Diwali, Holi or Vaisakhi either. These Hindu religious or cultural days were hijacked by making up fake stories.

showing your shallowness again. or maybe your ideals on what you want india to become.

You bleat about how Panjab doesn't belong to the Sikhs only, yet shower your hindutva diarrhea here.

[Amandeep Hindustani]

showing your shallowness again. or maybe your ideals on what you want india to become.

You bleat about how Panjab doesn't belong to the Sikhs only, yet shower your hindutva diarrhea here.

There is no point in you being in Haridwar. If you are there to learn and debate like your founders then fine. But if you are coming to disparage Hindus then don't bother.

Plus, I need a certificate from you in relation to a "clean heart" otherwise the yatra is pointless according to your own religion.

You could come undercover like before. But the granth that you are looking for is never going to be public. Its only known to a select group of Brahmins.

Edited November 9, 2014 by Amandeep Hindustani

[tonyhp32]

What would you say if Hindus agitate to get harmandar Sahib back from Tat Khalsa occupiers? After all it is Mandar for Hari and there is a record of idols being worshiped there till 100 years back. Modern khalsa aurangzebs have removed Hindu paintings from parkarma and many other sikh temples after 1984. they are Mandars too and so are Hemkunt, Manikaran and many others which were used as joint temples till not so distant past. Should Hindus ask Sikhs to hand over all such temples?

The obstinacy of Hindus is legendary. When confronted with the truth they will still keep on with their falsehood, Were the idols there originally when the Harmandir Sahib was built? No, there is no evidence of this even the myth making Sanatanists cannot come up with evidence of this. These idols were only on the Parkirama and these were infiltrations brought on by the Hindu pilgrims and priests who would visit the Harmandir Sahib and who even going to the place of enlightenment still wanted to keep their idol worshipping ritual.

[amar_jkp]

[amar_jkp]

[amar_jkp]

Seriously, if the agitating Sikh orgs have any documents which prove that there was a gurdwara (old revenue records, building ownership papers, rent lease, ANYTHING!) at Har Ki Pauri, they can go to the court. there are 1000s of such cases where buildings have been restored to the original owners.

in my opinion, there an enterprising sadh (udasi or some other sect) may have done parkash of Guru Granth sahib at some stage in the past 50 years or so in a small room/shop near Har ki Pauri. He or his followers may have decided to 'close business' due to the lack of sikhs visiting (highly probable as sikhs have stopped visiting Hindu pilgrimage centres after 1980s crisis) Haridwar.

if there is no evidence of any such ownership, Akal Takht should intervene and stop this outrageously dishonest campaign to malign Hindus.

Then why Hindus destroy Babri masjid