Ragmaala Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnPathToSikhi Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Village folks, especially the poor, are vulnerable, being simple minded. Crooked christian missionaries fooling villagers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Casteism is a strong factor ..overpowering poverty in some cases ..if the Jatts dont mend their ways .then Sikhi will be a minority ..i had heard of the rss and sgpc combining and bringing back many converts ..they were highly criticized by the dal khalsa stooges.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) Casteism is a strong factor ..overpowering poverty in some cases ..if the Jatts dont mend their ways .then Sikhi will be a minority ..i had heard of the rss and sgpc combining and bringing back many converts ..they were highly criticized by the dal khalsa stooges..Mate, hell will freeze over way before jatts have an inkling and mend their ways. In the meanwhile, we'll just have to get used to the idea of Hindu, Sikh, Muslim and Christian Panjabis. BTW: Rural Panjab looks like a shithole. Edited July 13, 2015 by dalsingh101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 It's happening in the UK just as much maybe even more. A close friend of mind converted along with his whole family (he is a choora) however a very well of choora. When he converted he gave me this BS about how sikhi is messed up you have curroption etc, I out it to him that curroption and evil people are in every religion. He seems closer to God but still....someone who ibused to see at the guru ghar now giving speeches at churches full of Punjabi's, that doesn't sit well with me.What attracts people from the UK whoblive very good lifes to converting to Christianity. What are these missionaries offering Punjabi's sikhi can't? Crystal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 No dalsingh, I have to disagree with you, rural Punjab is home. However its home to these greedy jatts who look down on others. Remember where jatts are in the caste system shudra.The nihangs should go and jhatka these Christian missionaries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Ilford in East London has a church that caters to the Punjabi audience. People leaving Sikhi in the diaspora is rising - whether for deras, sects or other religions. At the same time however I also see more and more people converting to Sikhi. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dalsingh101 Posted July 14, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 It's not rocket science.We have serious animosity amongst ourselves, mainly (from what I can see) based on egoic pride over caste and/or wealth/status. I've grown up and live in a multicultural society; I can use my eyes and ears and make comparisons:You have to admit that compared to a lot of cultures/faiths our people are often very contemptuous of each other. We aren't a warm, open accepting community. I've seen uncountable people converting to Islam over the years. I've seen a few people converting to Buddhism too.I think we do insularity like idiots, we are insular along caste lines between ourselves - but at the same time arse-lick outsiders like we have an inferiority complex and are desperate of acceptance. Other people seem to have much more heart felt warmth towards their own, they protect and perceive members of their own community in a positive light. We'll sell our own out in a minute. Straight up, we all have basic needs as humans of acceptance and belonging to a group we feel positive about - this is what other communities offer that attract people from our community to convert. We've let hypocrisy, greed, bullshit and petty regional politics define us now. Who is really surprised when someone from an alcohol fueled 'sardar' family converts or a daughter runs of with some soft, easily controllable gora? Who is really surprised when someone from a so-called 'low-caste' community leaves to join a community that doesn't treat them like second rate scum! Who is truly shocked when someone leaves, disgusted at the petty, corrupt and often violent bullshit that emanates from many gurdwara committees? I ain't. , 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crystal Posted July 14, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 We've let hypocrisy, greed, bullshit and petty regional politics define us now. Who is really surprised when someone from an alcohol fueled 'sardar' family converts or a daughter runs of with some soft, easily controllable gora? Who is really surprised when someone from a so-called 'low-caste' community leaves to join a community that doesn't treat them like second rate scum! Who is truly shocked when someone leaves, disgusted at the petty, corrupt and often violent bullshit that emanates from many gurdwara committees? I ain't. , I haven't been on SA long but dalsingh yyou are defiantly a valued contributor on this forum, well done for not pussy footing around. & thank you for your posts Crystal 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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