Why did they do this?

[Singh123456777]

[SAadmin]

What's their justification on this ?

[SAadmin]

This is totally political move. I am all up for compassion and forgiveness but this case was pure travesty. Dera chief didn't even bother coming to akaal takth sahib nor he was called....and then clean chit was given. Again this is political bs. You would think akaal takth sahib jathedar position would be away from becoming slave of political leaders.

We need to have sikh eccentric representation/singh going in for cm position straight up, go straight to the root cause. Sant jarnail singh bhindranwale had educated singhs from sikh youth federation who were very knowledgeable in political circles so they had model of akaal takth sahib jathedar being spiritual leader and sikh political leader as cm they go hand in hand. One take care of goverence and other take care of religious/spiritual matter. Without addressing the root cause - lack of sikh leadership in governance, we could never fix curroption at jathedari level at akaal takth sahib as after bhai gurbachan singh ji some other lame duck will put on by governance power. At this point, i encourage everyone in punjab to vote for aam admi next year as this party has singhs like jarnail singh journalist/lawyer phula etc which are great canditate for cm position.

[kdsingh80]

Nothing wrong in it. That guy is busy making films , why do we need to make more enemies. none of his films or lectures have anything derogatory about sikhs , sikhism etc

[kdsingh80]

This is totally political move. I am all up for compassion and forgiveness but this case was pure travesty. Dera chief didn't even bother coming to akaal takth sahib nor he was called....and then clean chit was given. Again this is political bs. You would think akaal takth sahib jathedar position would be away from becoming slave of political leaders.

We need to have sikh eccentric representation/singh going in for cm position straight up, go straight to the root cause. Sant jarnail singh bhindranwale had educated singhs from sikh youth federation who were very knowledgeable in political circles so they had model of akaal takth sahib jathedar being spiritual leader and sikh political leader as cm they go hand in hand. One take care of goverence and other take care of religious/spiritual matter. Without addressing the root cause - lack of sikh leadership in governance, we could never fix curroption at jathedari level at akaal takth sahib as after bhai gurbachan singh ji some other lame duck will put on by governance power. At this point, i encourage everyone in punjab to vote for aam admi next year as this party has singhs like jarnail singh journalist/lawyer phula etc which are great canditate for cm position.

Phulka has resigned from AAP

[SAadmin]

Sant Samaj takes good panthic stance:

This is their official page- check out their videos on this topic:

https://www.facebook.com/Gurmat-Sidhant-Parcharak-Sant-Samaj-1650035748555632/timeline/

 

 

[DSG]

Also see 

 

 

The 5 jatedar are a joke , a lot of noise  is being made to oust them out of power ,

 

 

 

[DSG]

contact details of the jatedars and dera wala , which they wont respond to but regardless we should bombard them with messages of concern

Contact details of the Panj Takhat Sahib ‘Jathedars’:

1.Gurbachan Singh, Sri Akal Takht Sahib, Sri Amritsar. 0183-2540820 Extn. 434 

2.Mal Singh, Takht Sri Kesgarh Sahib, Sri Anandpur Sahib. 01887-232100 (Office)94175-42974 (Mobile) 

3.Iqbal Singh, Takht Sri Patna Sahib, Bihar. 0162-2641821, 0612-2642000, 0162-646574 

4. Kulwant Singh, Takht Sri Hazoor Sahib (Nanded) Maharashtra. 02462-241266 240083, 238222 

5. Balwant Singh, Takht Sri Damdma Sahib, Talwandi Saboo (Bathinda) 01655-220036 (Office), 94172-20036 (Mobile)

Avtar Makkar, President, S.G.P.C.
+91-183-2553950 (Office)
+91-98558-95558 (Mobile)
Email: president@sgpc.net

Dera Jhoota Sauda Contact details:

Shah Satnam Dham, Sirsa – 125055 (Office) 91-1666-238610(Mobile) , 238650 (Office), 245688 (Office)
Email: msg@derasachasauda.in

[SAadmin]

Gyani Kulvant Singh ji seems to be getting grilled on this:

 

[SAadmin]

[DSG]

WAKE UP CALL !!!!

Was watching Sikh channel yesterday and they were discussing , how we should setup Sarbat Khalsa , and the 5 jatedar incompetence by pardoniong Sauda wala and lack of response from them regarding Jatedar Surat Singh 

They are thinking about holding a meeting in Punjab for all leaders/ jate bandis to meet up and discuss about Sarbat Khalsa

 

Sangat Ji 

What are your views and how do you think we can move forward ?

 

Some thoughts or views that came out from yesterdays program were :-

1. Lets not look back , move forward 

2. Send emails to the jatedars  current residing at Harimandir Sahib . Bombard them with so much emails so they know sangat is against their decision

3.Lets not rush into holding meetings , lets take our time and think it through

4. We need to act , not just merely talk then couple of weeks pass by then all is forgotten , back to square one

5. Let the Sikh Council decide on the criteria as to the roles and responsibilities required

6. Oust out the current jatedars , the Sangat will do this

7. Educate the people in villages , make it our individual duty to make others aware

8. Have a global fund , to fight for these causes

9. Use media more , maybe hold world wide video conferencing to discuss i.e. one from UK , italy , delhi, germany usa ,canada , rather than all physically going to one location

10. The badal clan will not allow meetings to be held in punjab . Hold a meeting at nankana sahib , 

11, Have more than one backup plan , if group A are falsely arrested, beaten up put in jail then group B carry on with the cause

12. For future candidates of jatedars / leaders have a selection and not election . Go back to the khalsa days

13. Have a poll in each country and send the figures to Akaal Takt stating how many people are against the jatedars decision. 

14. All leaders/jatebandis sangat to unite under one nishaan sahib 

15. No violence , lets keep knocking at their door until the so called culprits resign / admit to their wrong doings

 

Just some thoughts / ideas please sangat share your views ...

 

 

 

[SAadmin]

We should spent more energies looking to replace cm in next election to our panthic minded sikh than replacing jathedars. Regardless whoever you replace, he has to comply with cm request/demands as they are the ones governing, cm can make it very difficult for everyone its like in western countries without mayor/provincial leaders funding- cops have no power to enforce. Monarch system in akaal takht has unfortunately, has long gone. CM has full control over funding, taxes, infrastructure, jobs, economy in punjab.

Biggest mistake sikhs did when they refused cm position when was offered to them and didn't listen to baba thakur singh ji instead they totally boycotted the punjab gov't, result is infront of us- beant demonic terrorist came in and killed soo many innocents, killed generations and also started same old same old power game shifting  between congress and akaali dal.

When punjabi in punjab will wake up? 

Edited October 5, 2015 by N30 S!NGH

[Singh123456777]

Jathedar mal Singh and jathedar kulwant Singh are really chardi kala people. I don't want to see them getting kicked out.

[Sat1176]

Looks like things are beginning to get even more heated for the Jathedars.

http://dailysikhupdates.com/breaking-takht-sri-keshgarh-jathedar-attacked-outside-his-home/

[Ragmaala]

I think all this is a tactic used by Badal to divide the panth into factions, one supporting akal takhat others against it, leading to division in panth, distracting the focus on main issues, creating confusion and thriving in that confusion for the next elections.

Sant samaj is split already, nanaksar is split as well on this issue one of the babas with no authority gave some stupid bayans, jathedars being attacked, police will use brutality, introduce sacha sauda baba to punjab create more chaos in coming future.

dhadrianwala was threatened by one of the 5 jathedars on phone for going against hukamnama.

I feel sad for Jathedar Kulwant singh ji at hazur sahib. They have no power, in order to survive in Maharashtra they have to work with BJP or RSS, no choice for them, the airport has already been shut down, who knows wt else can be done, they r just going with flow, maybe they should personally ask Pita Ji for direct advice and act upon it...

lets see how things turn out...

 

The great mastermind Badal.

Edited October 6, 2015 by Ragmaala

[Ragmaala]

We should spent more energies looking to replace cm in next election to our panthic minded sikh than replacing jathedars. Regardless whoever you replace, he has to comply with cm request/demands as they are the ones governing, cm can make it very difficult for everyone its like in western countries without mayor/provincial leaders funding- cops have no power to enforce. Monarch system in akaal takht has unfortunately, has long gone. CM has full control over funding, taxes, infrastructure, jobs, economy in punjab.

Biggest mistake sikhs did when they refused cm position when was offered to them and didn't listen to baba thakur singh ji instead they totally boycotted the punjab gov't, result is infront of us- beant demonic terrorist came in and killed soo many innocents, killed generations and also started same old same old power game shifting  between congress and akaali dal.

When punjabi in punjab will wake up? 

you are so right veer,

they need to make Simranjeet Singh Mann the next CM, only then good days of Punjab will come.