paapiman Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Please listen to Gyani Thakur Singh jee. Some people claim that they are Sangat, but are they really Sangat? Please listen after 10:00 min: http://www.gurbaniupdesh.org/multimedia/04-Katha/13-Giani%20Thakur%20Singh%20Ji%20%28Patiala%20Wale%29/Katha%20Sri%20Guru%20Granth%20Sahib%20Ji/CD11%28Ang0886-1024%29/0877-Ang-0925-Pankti-13.mp3 Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 My interpretation of sangat is community, but good to raise the question, what is the sangat in the 21st century? There are those who only attend Gurudwara functions on special occasions i.e. a wedding or Vaisakhi, they are no lesser member of the sangat than someone who goes regularly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) I think there is a "micro" and a "macro" sangat. The macro sangat is the sangat you meet at the local Gurdwara. You dont decide who is part of this sangat and while some are there for spiritual purposes, many are also just there to meet with other Punjabis. Ie social purposes. The micro sangat is your own sangat, - those people you connect with in order to grow spiritually. These you pick yourself. Most people confuse the micro sangat with your friends but your friends doesn'nt have to be your micro sangat. My experience is that in many cases those whom you grow with spiritually aren't nescesarely the people you have anything in common with in temporal matters, -ie. they are not entirely people you would be friends with to hangout etc... Edited February 19, 2016 by amardeep 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 When Gurbani has praise of the sangat I think it is ustat of this micro sangat. Not the macro sangat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest. Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 sangat has connotation of a physical group of people actually sitting together, for the sole aim of worship there are other words like panth (followers) and quam (population? not sure), and probably other words too 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) Panth and qaum refers to political nations, tribes etc. Guru Gobind Singh refers to the Brar Jatts as a qaum in the Zafarnama. I think Gursobha uses the Word sangat in the meaning of panth and qaum giving the Word sangat more of a political meaning. But generally a sangat is people you know of, - not people you share faith with. This is also the meaning of Sangha in Budhism if I remember correctly. Edited February 22, 2016 by amardeep 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted February 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Akhree Arth (word meaning): Sangat - ਸੰਗਤਿ - ਸੰ (in a good way) + ਗਤਿ (liberation) - Liberation in a good way Other meanings: Company Union Interaction Knowledge Sex Does anyone know, what " ਸੁਹਬਤ " means? Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted February 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 10 hours ago, Guest guest. said: there are other words like panth (followers) and quam (population? not sure), and probably other words too Guest jee - Quam (ਕੋਮ) - is an Arabic word, which means a tribe. For example, Brar Jatts (as stated by Amardeep Paaji), Yusufzai Pathans, Barakzai Pathans, Chauhan Rajputs, etc. Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 I thought sangat came from ਸੰਗ company, association, companionship; party or procession of pilgrims; stone 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 1 hour ago, paapiman said: Akhree Arth (word meaning): Sangat - ਸੰਗਤਿ - ਸੰ (in a good way) + ਗਤਿ (liberation) - Liberation in a good way Other meanings: Company Union Interaction Knowledge Sex Does anyone know, what " ਸੁਹਬਤ " means? Bhul chuk maaf Where do you get these akhree arths from? From a book, website or? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 ਗਤਿ (liberation) - Liberation in a good way i think the 'i' may be a vyaakaran vowel here, the word might be from pali/sanskrit 'gat', "to come" "san+gat" lit. "to come togther" (disclaimer: i have little knowledge here, by no means an expert!) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 On 2/22/2016 at 6:50 AM, amardeep said: Where do you get these akhree arths from? From a book, website or? Below are good resources: http://www.khojgurbani.com/worddetail https://searchgurbani.com/mahan_kosh Amir Bhandar Teeka Katha Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 On 2/22/2016 at 6:14 AM, dalsingh101 said: I thought sangat came from ਸੰਗ company, association, companionship; party or procession of pilgrims; stone If it comes from ਸੰਗ, then what would ਤਿ or ਤ mean? Any idea? Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 On 2/22/2016 at 6:56 PM, Guest guest said: ਗਤਿ (liberation) - Liberation in a good way i think the 'i' may be a vyaakaran vowel here, the word might be from pali/sanskrit 'gat', "to come" "san+gat" lit. "to come togther" (disclaimer: i have little knowledge here, by no means an expert!) If the Sihari is removed from ਗਤਿ, then it would become ਗਤ, which means "to annihilate/destroy". Is that what you mean by a Vyakaran vowel? Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahanpaapi Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 "Does anyone know, what " ਸੁਹਬਤ " means?" It means one's company, association etc, wth whom one associate, in Punjab, my parents used to say always stay in good ਸੁਹਬਤ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 1 hour ago, mahanpaapi said: "Does anyone know, what " ਸੁਹਬਤ " means?" It means one's company, association etc, wth whom one associate, in Punjab, my parents used to say always stay in good ਸੁਹਬਤ. It is persian word which we don't use much nowadays. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 2 hours ago, mahanpaapi said: "Does anyone know, what " ਸੁਹਬਤ " means?" It means one's company, association etc, wth whom one associate, in Punjab, my parents used to say always stay in good ਸੁਹਬਤ. 11 minutes ago, chatanga1 said: It is persian word which we don't use much nowadays. Thanks brothers. Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 for me (could be wrong) Sangat is group of people Sat sang/sangat is congregation Sadh sangat is sangat of sadhus (one actually doing sadhana) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 11 hours ago, paapiman said: If the Sihari is removed from ਗਤਿ, then it would become ਗਤ, which means "to annihilate/destroy". Is that what you mean by a Vyakaran vowel? Bhul chuk maaf has many meanings, look: http://spokensanskrit.de/index.php?tinput=gata&direction=SE&script=DI&link=yeshttp://spokensanskrit.de/index.php?tinput=gata&direction=SE&script=DI&link=yes (i think?) the word is 'sangat' not 'sangati'. if the 'i' is there it is to do with grammar of the snetance you took it from 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted February 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 On 2/25/2016 at 8:10 PM, Guest guest said: has many meanings, look: http://spokensanskrit.de/index.php?tinput=gata&direction=SE&script=DI&link=yeshttp://spokensanskrit.de/index.php?tinput=gata&direction=SE&script=DI&link=yes Thanks for the link Guest jee. Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted March 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 On 2/18/2016 at 4:04 PM, amardeep said: When Gurbani has praise of the sangat I think it is ustat of this micro sangat. Not the macro sangat. The below snippet might be related to the above. There should be two sangats in a Gurudwara: Diwan-e-aam Diwan-e-khaas Please start listening after 31:00 min: http://www.gianikulwantsingh.com/audio/BaarahMaahaaTukhaari_ChantMahla-1/17-%20%20Thukaree%20Raag%20Baraa%20Maha%20Katha%20-%20Giani%20Kulwant%20Singh%20Ji%20%28Ludhiana%20Vaalay%29.mp3 Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 Cheers Singh for finding that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BhagatSingh Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 On 2016-02-23 at 4:29 PM, samurai said: for me (could be wrong) Sangat is group of people Sat sang/sangat is congregation Sadh sangat is sangat of sadhus (one actually doing sadhana) Exactly. Sangat is any company you hang out. Any company you hang out with on a regular basis will influence your own behaviour. That's why Sat Sangat and Sadhu Sangat is important. Sat Sang means - to accompany Sat, truth. Sadhu Sangat means - the company of sadhus, godly men. On 2016-02-21 at 6:56 PM, Guest guest said: ਗਤਿ (liberation) - Liberation in a good way i think the 'i' may be a vyaakaran vowel here, the word might be from pali/sanskrit 'gat', "to come" "san+gat" lit. "to come togther" (disclaimer: i have little knowledge here, by no means an expert!) You have understand how that word is constructed. It is not ਸੰ + ਗਤ. It's ਸੰਗ + ਤ ਸੰਗ is "to accompany" ਸੰਗਤ is "the company" itself 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 yes i see. 'sang' as in 'mere sang' =by my side. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted April 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Please listen to Gyani Ram Singh jee (DDT wale), explaining the four types of Sangat. Please start listening after 4:00 min: Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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