paapiman Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 5 hours ago, paapiman said: The below Gurbanis are recited in addition to the 5 Gurbanis at Sri Hajoor saab. First chapter of Sri Shastar Naam Mala 33 Saviye 3 more Saviye First Charitar. Bhul chuk maaf @GurjantGnostic Daas has to check where those 3 Savaiye are located in the Sri Dasam Granth. It does seem that they do not recite any passage from Sri Bachittar Natak though. Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 28 minutes ago, paapiman said: @GurjantGnostic Daas has to check where those 3 Savaiye are located in the Sri Dasam Granth. It does seem that they do not recite any passage from Sri Bachittar Natak though. Bhul chuk maaf Excellent work bro. Thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh2022 Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 On 10/17/2021 at 3:44 PM, Guransh SIngh said: In Hazur Sahib, Bakra is not eaten according to what I have heard, jhatka is done for shastar tilak. The primary aim of the public bloodletting for no real purpose is to simply denigrate Sikhi and dissaude local folks from learning about Sikhi and becoming Sikh. Remember Dravidian (Deccan) land is the noble land were one of our Panj Piare originated from (Karnataka) yet due to these sects which remained loyal to the British between 1849-1947 this spectacle takes place in order to denigrate the wider Sikh Panth and effectively discourage 300million Dravidians from following the same path as Bhai Sahib Singh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 12 hours ago, Singh2022 said: The primary aim of the public bloodletting for no real purpose is to simply denigrate Sikhi and dissaude local folks from learning about Sikhi and becoming Sikh. Remember Dravidian (Deccan) land is the noble land were one of our Panj Piare originated from (Karnataka) yet due to these sects which remained loyal to the British between 1849-1947 this spectacle takes place in order to denigrate the wider Sikh Panth and effectively discourage 300million Dravidians from following the same path as Bhai Sahib Singh. I found a little something on Jhatka from Tamil. Long story short, the Thuggis, like Sajjan Thug, we're unjustly cut out of culture because they hunted traditionally, and were forced into ill repute. Guru Nanak Dev Ji went into the jungle himself to save Sajjan Thug and bring the Thugis back into society. And they traditionally practiced Shikar and Jhatka. In a way you could say it's protected Thugi Dharam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh2022 Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 Exactly @GurjantGnostic bro. Nothing wrong with Jhatka and shikar when there is no other food for isolated tribes to survive upon. The problem is when food is plentiful in 2022 but animals are slaughtered purely for blood tilaks and to make Sikhi look like a joke to our Dravidian brethren. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, Singh2022 said: Exactly @GurjantGnostic bro. Nothing wrong with Jhatka and shikar when there is no other food for isolated tribes to survive upon. The problem is when food is plentiful in 2022 but animals are slaughtered purely for blood tilaks and to make Sikhi look like a joke to our Dravidian brethren. Mmm indeed. It isn't for show. Or to make forhead paint. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 20 hours ago, Singh2022 said: The problem is when food is plentiful in 2022 but animals are slaughtered purely for blood tilaks and to make Sikhi look like a joke to our Dravidian brethren. Mahaparshad is eaten by Sikhs too. Jhatka Maryada makes Sikhs looks like warriors, not like jokers. Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post paapiman Posted July 26, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 9 hours ago, paapiman said: Mahaparshad is eaten by Sikhs too. Jhatka Maryada makes Sikhs looks like warriors, not like jokers. Bhul chuk maaf @Singh2022 Goat meat is also very nutritious. BillyDoe Meats | Why Goat Meat is So Good for You Bhul chuk maaf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ipledgeblue Posted August 1, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 1, 2022 On 10/17/2021 at 3:44 PM, Guransh SIngh said: In Hazur Sahib, Bakra is not eaten according to what I have heard, jhatka is done for shastar tilak. Bhul Chuk Maaf Sat Kartar Of course the bakra is eaten, it is eaten as part of mahaprasad. On 7/24/2022 at 1:25 AM, Singh2022 said: The primary aim of the public bloodletting for no real purpose is to simply denigrate Sikhi and dissaude local folks from learning about Sikhi and becoming Sikh. You need to read Guru Gobind Singh bani. Khalsa practises kshatriya dharam. shastar tilak is no joke. shastar is thirsty for blood! On 7/26/2022 at 1:22 AM, Singh2022 said: Ranjit Singh is an excommunicated joker. He didn't even bother to read the pangti from Guru Granth Sahib maharaj which he is trying to explain to his followers. On 7/24/2022 at 11:58 PM, Singh2022 said: Exactly @GurjantGnostic bro. Nothing wrong with Jhatka and shikar when there is no other food for isolated tribes to survive upon. The problem is when food is plentiful in 2022 but animals are slaughtered purely for blood tilaks and to make Sikhi look like a joke to our Dravidian brethren. jhatka and shikaar isn't practised just for food, it is practised as khstairya dharam and to make Singhs fearless and used to the sight of blood. Even then it doesn't really prepare you for the horrors you will see in a war! IF jhatka isn't practised, Singhs will do jhatka wrong and it will become phatka, which is against Nihang Singh maryada for consumption. Also supposed to know jhatka to be able to take enemies down with one blow! Also at Kurukshetra, Guru Nanak was more concerned with the hypocrisy of the Brahmin being against meat being cooked on a sacred day, than actually being concerned with meat or veg Guru Angad dev ji used to have meat served to whole sangat for langar, and then the first time an exception was made was when Baba Amar Das joined langar and Guru Angad Dev ji found out that Baba Amar Das was hesitant for eating meat! On 7/26/2022 at 5:17 AM, paapiman said: @Singh2022 Goat meat is also very nutritious. BillyDoe Meats | Why Goat Meat is So Good for You Bhul chuk maaf is goat meat still red meat right? So we shouldn't eat it regularly? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted August 6, 2022 Report Share Posted August 6, 2022 Oh snap...cough ਮਾਸੁਪੁਰਾਣੀਮਾਸੁਕਤੇਬਂੀਚਹੁਜੁਗਿਮਾਸੁਕਮਾਣਾ॥ maas puraanee maas katebee(n) chahu jug maas kamaanaa || Meat is allowed in the Puraanas, meat is allowed in the Bible and the Koran. Throughout the four ages, meat has been used. Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Raag Malaar - 1290 ਜਜਿਕਾਜਿਵੀਆਹਿਸੁਹਾਵੈਓਥੈਮਾਸੁਸਮਾਣਾ॥ jaj kaaj veeaaeh suhaavai othai maas samaanaa || It is featured in sacred feasts and marriage festivities; meat is used in them. Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Raag Malaar - 1290 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted August 6, 2022 Report Share Posted August 6, 2022 Gurbani clearly doesn't make meat a salvation issue but does compassionately steer away from it. Often times Bhagat Kabeer Ji interestingly. ਜਉਸਭਮਹਿਏਕੁਖੁਦਾਇਕਹਤਹਉਤਉਕਿਉਮੁਰਗੀਮਾਰੈ॥੧॥ jau sabh meh ek khudhai kahat hau tau kiau muragee maarai ||1|| You say that the One Lord is in all, so why do you kill chickens? ||1|| Bhagat Kabeer Ji in Raag Prabhaatee - 1350 ਕਬੀਰਖੂਬੁਖਾਨਾਖੀਚਰੀਜਾਮਹਿਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁਲੋਨੁ॥ kabeer khoob khaanaa kheecharee jaa meh a(n)mirat lon || Kabeer, the dinner of beans and rice is excellent, if it is flavored with salt. ਹੇਰਾਰੋਟੀਕਾਰਨੇਗਲਾਕਟਾਵੈਕਉਨੁ॥੧੮੮॥ heraa roTee kaarane galaa kaTaavai kaun ||188|| Who would cut his throat, to have meat with his bread? ||188|| Bhagat Kabeer Ji in Salok Kabeer Jee - 1374 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted August 6, 2022 Report Share Posted August 6, 2022 I always come back to it being for emergency consumption. And support the authentic practice of Jhatka in some, not all places. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted August 6, 2022 Report Share Posted August 6, 2022 On 8/1/2022 at 6:36 PM, ipledgeblue said: is goat meat still red meat right? So we shouldn't eat it regularly? It seems to be better than beef, pork, etc. Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajjan_Thug Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 On 8/6/2022 at 12:42 PM, paapiman said: It seems to be better than beef, pork, etc. Bhul chuk maaf Is there a karmic impact on a individual for eating meat? Isn't it tamo guni it clouds the mind and keeps mind in the lower chakras? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sajjan_Thug said: Isn't it tamo guni it clouds the mind and keeps mind in the lower chakras? That could be true. Do you have a source for that? Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sajjan_Thug said: Is there a karmic impact on a individual for eating meat? The Lekha for meat eating is definitely more than a Lacto-vegetarian diet. Therefore, we must try to stay Lacto-vegetarian to be on the safe side, until and unless meat eating is needed for survival (or for medical reasons). Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sajjan_Thug Posted August 8, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 hours ago, paapiman said: That could be true. Do you have a source for that? Bhul chuk maaf List Of Tamasic Food from ayurveda Food brimming with tamas guna makes the body and mind heavy and lethargic. It creates inertia and inactivity. It dulls the senses and makes the body inflexible, heavy and attached to the physical and material things. Meat, Chicken, Fish, Pork, Beef and other non vegetarian foods, Mushrooms, alcohol, recreational drugs, refined grains, over ripe fruits, preservatives found mixed in foods, canned and frozen food, artificial sweeteners, old and stale food. It also contains fried foods, frozen or microwaved foods, packaged foods, Margarine, pasteurized, homogenized / powdered milk. Source: https://honeyfurforher.com/sattva-rasas-tamas-three-gunas-ayurvedic-perspective-sattvic-diet/#List_Of_Tamasic_Food 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajjan_Thug Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 hours ago, paapiman said: The Lekha for meat eating is definitely more than a Lacto-vegetarian diet. Therefore, we must try to stay Lacto-vegetarian to be on the safe side, until and unless meat eating is needed for survival (or for medical reasons). Bhul chuk maaf Questions and answers with Santren Daya Singh Singh Ji From Sadhna butcher was changed, a voice came from the mind of Sadhna butcher that sometimes I have killed this goat, sometimes this goat has killed me, how long will it continue? Sadhna butcher listened to mind’s voice and stopped slaughtering goat. The Guru speaks in the mind and Sikh listen. If someone could not identify that Guru Ji’s voice then he is not a Gursikh. The age is on the breath which does not increase or decrease, it also happens that the age in years of the vegetarian increases even the breath remain the same because vegetarian diet consume less breathe in eating and digesting. If a person eats tobacco, eats meat, lust, gets angry and is greedy, busy accumulating money, his age in years decreases because more breath is used in all these activities. The one who lives in Sehaj Living (Gursikh living) stay longer. Bhai Gurdas Ji also has this sakh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Sajjan_Thug said: Is there a karmic impact on a individual for eating meat? Isn't it tamo guni it clouds the mind and keeps mind in the lower chakras? Yes. Yes. It's just no reason to discrimate against anyone, aka Thuggis, Nihang, and not a "salvation" issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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