10, 20, 30 years going to nagar kirtans, what have you learned?

[Sajjan_Thug]

So much money has been wasted at nagar kirtans.  Was it worth it, what have you learned by going to them.

Or could the money have been spent on opening Gurmat Vidyalas and spreading Gurmat materials?

[GurjantGnostic]

5 hours ago, Sajjan_Thug said:

So much money has been wasted at nagar kirtans.  Was it worth it, what have you learned by going to them.

Or could the money have been spent on opening Gurmat Vidyalas and spreading Gurmat materials?

Pow wow circuit and swap meets make money. And we should totally do Parchar there. 

[Soulfinder]

Nagar kirtian has become a street festival which is a sad way to describe it sadly. All people want to is just eat there and now they have got dhol players in the nagar kirtian which makes it even worse as its against gurmat.

[Premi]

A view on Nagar Kirtan

https://realsikhissues.co/wp-content/uploads/mybooks/The-Forbidden-Truth-By-Sikh-Unit-2.pdf  page 28

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My View on Modern day Nagar kirtans in the UK I am not a fan of modern day Nagar kirtans aka jaloose (embarrassing show), we have flipped the whole meaning of Nagar Kirtan in the modern age. In the old skool days Sikhs used to wake up at Amrit vela in each pind (village) and travel to the Local Gurdwara together singing Gods praises. Hence the term Nagar Kirtan which means the singing of Gods Praises in the Street. There was meaning and logic behind this, instead of small groups chatting bullshit on the way to the Gurdwara, they just focused and tuned in to Gurbani until they got there.

Nowadays we parade Maharaj and I see non Sikhs smirking at us when we walk the streets. The traffic congestion also makes a lot of non Sikhs angry and rightly so (why should people wait an hour or two just because the Sikhs want to celebrate). I was caught up in traffic in a Muslim parade once and I was so pissed off, so I understand how people will feel when the same happens to them.

We have to spend at least £20,000 to allow the nagar kirtan to go ahead, this includes police fee, ambulance fee, and all other arrangements (road blocks). I reckon the money is better off being sent to an eye camp for the blind, instead of organising a few hundred Sikhs just to walk around the block. More than anything religious the modern day nagar kirtans have become a fashion parade full of alterative motives other than the Gurbani.

A lot of youth have a piss up straight after and do mash up things like having a fag on the sly (on a side road) or sex in a car and rejoin the parade etc. Tbh I went a few times and have stopped going because to me I feel it a waste of time and money. I also get embarrassed when other communities smirk at us and take the piss, because in a way we are giving them ammunition to do so.

 

[dalsingh101]

On 10/1/2022 at 11:07 PM, Soulfinder said:

Nagar kirtian has become a street festival which is a sad way to describe it sadly. All people want to is just eat there and now they have got dhol players in the nagar kirtian which makes it even worse as its against gurmat.

Did you notice that the council stopped giving a permit for the East London one a few years ago. I used to enjoy them, but yeah, they became a literal jaloose. 

[Soulfinder]

18 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

Did you notice that the council stopped giving a permit for the East London one a few years ago. I used to enjoy them, but yeah, they became a literal jaloose. 

Plus i also heard that how the council was asking for £50k for holding the Nagar Kirtan. Now thats a lot of money for one day. But yes i agree with you veer ji it became a literal jaloose.

[prabhmilnekachao]

Yes your view is definitely right.