SAadmin Posted September 25, 2004 Report Share Posted September 25, 2004 I was just reading personal dairy of sant baba isher singh ji rara sahib..its called Ishwar Amolak...found out this paragraph interesting regarding Naam Simran. This is one of many ways explained by baba isher singh ji...I ll find more techniques and post it on this thread. Va Va Da Abhyaas Nabhi Ch Karo (Doing Simran of Va Va on Nabhi/Navel ) Hi Hi Di Awaaz Hiradaie Ch (Doing Simran of hi hi on the heart) Gu Gu Kant ch Karo (Doing Simran Gu on the kant/near throat) And Ru Ru Di Awaaz Mastaak mai Ratan Kartaie Hoye Birti Kou Nirgun Atma Mein Lin Kar Duo (Doing Simran Ru Ru on the Mastaak/third eye) So its a cycle - Va ( on Nabhi) Hi(on heart) Gu (on Kant) Ru(On Mastak/third eye). Thats one cycle....I dont know...this cycle or stage explained in the book is the first intial stage to the simran or second last stage in simran.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sardar Moderator Singh Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 Neo, please bring some more of this online...! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 This tape talks meditation techniques and their phaul(fruit): http://www.gursikhijeevan.com/media/audio/...Ji/Atmik_Bachan Enjoy! Good things come to people with pateince !..anand hii anand :D 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkingOne Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 Thats such a wonderful information. Thank you Singh ji. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAadmin Posted November 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Another way of doing taught by raj yogi siriman baba attar singh ji maharaj maustanaisahib. Method of Nam - Simran (Meditation) - Feel the presence of the Almighty within, with full faith and devotion, recite the Divine Name with the tongue in the beginning - the lips and the tongue continue gently moving up and down and slowly go on uttering 'Waheguru', 'Waheguru' at a stretch with love and attention; then by and by continue uttering 'Waheguru', 'Waheguru', gently with the tip of the tongue touching the palate and the lips remaining almost still; in the third stage with breathing - 'Wahe' should go along with the breath while inhaling and 'Guru' should emerge alongwith the breath while exhaling. "Bahar Bhitter Eko Janaho Eh Gur giam Batai" (684) By reciting the Divine Name in this way and after continuous intense meditation, the fourth stage is bestowed upon the searcher in which the Divine word and the devoted mind become one and merge. "Kabir Too Too Karta To Hoohaa Mujh Meh Raha Na Hoohn. Jab Aappa Par Ka Mit Gayaa Jat Dekhau tat Too" (1375) But the essential requirement of all these steps of Nam-Simran is that one should do it realizing the presence of Akal Purakh within and every where. "Gur Kee Murat Mun Meh Dhiaan. Gur Kae Shabad Mantar Mun Maan. Gur Kae Charan Ridae Lae Dharon. Gur Parbrehm Sada Namaskaro" (864) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHANBABANANAK Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 wheres the best place to do simran? third eye? nabi? thoat???? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tSingh Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 Sant Baba Jawala Singh recommends the same technique 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamic_Banda Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 its intresting as its similar to techniques for awakening or moving an awakened kundalini. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheena Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 Intersting, i was told the same technique from a great Gursikh who was taught this by i think their name was baba Attar singh ji, but im not positive on that EDIT: It was Sant Seva Singh JI. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 I'm looking for the tape by Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji: Audio meditation techniques and their phaul(fruit)............I tried: http://www.gursikhijeevan.com/media/audio/...Ji/Atmik_Bachan but it's NOT working.............I have around 5 files of Atmik Bachan, but none of that does explain Meditation Techniques. Please post me the downloadable link. Thanks Das 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Das veer ji, you can download those files you are trying to access from gursikhijeevan.com on : http://www.gurmarag.net/SikhAwareness/Audi...n%20by%20SISji/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Thanks Neo veerji, I came to know the following techniques by Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji. Could you please guide me to source (Devan OR Atmik Bachan OR Diary)? I know the source of 1, 2 techniques......1st is from Baba Ji's diary and 2nd is from Babaji Atmik Bachan...................but I do NOT know about 3rd and 4th technique..................moreover is there any comparison for these techniques by Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji: - Techniques given by sant baba isher singh ji rara sahib waley (sub branch of bhai dya singh samparda) Jap(meditation) is also done by: SOURCE By Atmik Bachan 1. Baikri Bani- When one recites naam with javan(tongue), hout(lips), khaieyal(thoughts) that is called Baikari Bani. 2. Madhma Bani- When one recites naam in Kant(throat) without moving lips...just with the thoughts is called Madhma Bani. 3. Pasanti Bani- When one recites naam in hirda(heart). 4. Para Bani- When one recites naam in Nabhi(Navel) without moving tongue and with the thoughts. In this stage vahiguroo naam gets infused in rom rom of the body. Meditation goes in automatic mode. There is no need for concentration. Gurmukh Rom Rom Har Dhavaie || After 4th stage, one gets to very high stage. Where one can hear(jap-resonance,dhuni) with their surati in pretty much everything in this creation ie- walls, birds, leafs, animals, human being, even from realms (bhramands). Dharat Patal Akash Hai Meri Jindaeriye Sab Har Har Naam Dhavaiya Ram || 2nd technique: SOURCE By Babaji's Diary Va Va Da Abhyaas Nabhi Ch Karo (Doing Simran of Va Va on Nabhi/Navel ) Hi Hi Di Awaaz Hiradaie Ch (Doing Simran of hi hi on the heart) Gu Gu Kant ch Karo (Doing Simran Gu on the kant/near throat) And Ru Ru Di Awaaz Mastaak mai Ratan Kartaie Hoye Birti Kou Nirgun Atma Mein Lin Kar Duo (Doing Simran Ru Ru on the Mastaak/third eye) So its a cycle - Va ( on Nabhi) Hi(on heart) Gu (on Kant) Ru(On Mastak/third eye). Thats one cycle....I dont know...this cycle or stage explained in the book is the first intial stage to the simran or second last stage in simran.... 3rd technique: SOURCE By Sant Baba Isher Singh JI ????? This is also included in Soraj Parkash Granth. According to a prasang(divan) on chapter of mata ajeeto kaur reaching enlightment. Mata ajeto kaur was under guidance of siri guroo gobind singh where she was taught all the "YOG SADHNA/Shabad Surat Marg where chakras are used", when mata ji did yog sadhna, when her birthi(dhyaan) reached - Trikurti/3rd eye..she started seeing the future e.g. the besiegement of Sri Anandpur Sahib, leaving the kila etc and the shaheedia of the char sahibjadey. After seeing this in a dream she asked Guru Gobind Singh jee whether this was true, Guru Sahib confirmed this. Mata jee then told guru jee that she could not see all this pain happen and would rather die/ leave for Sachkand and asked permission to leave her body. Guru Sahib jee granted her permission and subsequently she did ishnaan, a Sukhmani Sahib da Paath and then left her body by reciting the mantar and with that mantar taking her prana on top and realising it via bhram randar nari( subtle vein) through dasam dwara. 4th technique: SOURCE By Sant Baba Isher Singh JI ????? First concentrate on Sargun saroop of Vahiguroo while reciting shabad ie- Gur Ki Morat Man mein dhyaan Guru Ka shabad mantar man maan then after mind becomes subtle, that shabad will automatically take you upper realms and that shabad will infuse in your surat Thanks in advance Das 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystical Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 I was just reading personal dairy of sant baba isher singh ji rara sahib..its called Ishwar Amolak...found out this paragraph interesting regarding Naam Simran. This is one of many ways explained by baba isher singh ji...I ll find more techniques and post it on this thread. Va Va Da Abhyaas Nabhi Ch Karo (Doing Simran of Va Va on Nabhi/Navel ) Hi Hi Di Awaaz Hiradaie Ch (Doing Simran of hi hi on the heart) Gu Gu Kant ch Karo (Doing Simran Gu on the kant/near throat) And Ru Ru Di Awaaz Mastaak mai Ratan Kartaie Hoye Birti Kou Nirgun Atma Mein Lin Kar Duo (Doing Simran Ru Ru on the Mastaak/third eye) So its a cycle - Va ( on Nabhi) Hi(on heart) Gu (on Kant) Ru(On Mastak/third eye). Thats one cycle....I dont know...this cycle or stage explained in the book is the first intial stage to the simran or second last stage in simran.... They also tell us about this techique in Kundalini Yoga. Its meant to be good doing this. Some people when doing simran can feel the vibrations travel upwoulds in the body ending up in the Tenth Gate where you can feel it coming out. I think this techique is meant to encourage this to happend? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gagan Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 how to dhyan of satgur sroop in mind plz tell me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest harsharan000 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Dhyan is consequence of good Simran. So please concentrate on Simran. Simran is a purifier, which makes our mind fit for His dhyan. Sat Sree Akal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigyasu1991 Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 1/14/2007 at 9:07 PM, das said: I'm looking for the tape by Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji: Audio meditation techniques and their phaul(fruit)............I tried: http://www.gursikhijeevan.com/media/audio/...Ji/Atmik_Bachan but it's NOT working.............I have around 5 files of Atmik Bachan, but none of that does explain Meditation Techniques. Please post me the downloadable link.  Thanks Das  2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigyasu1991 Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 there is new book published in English 'Naam Simran Dian Jugtian'. It has the translation of above video where Maharaj ji explains meditation techniques. https://www.santisharsinghji.com/product/naam-simran-dian-jugtian/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sevak Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 Understanding of correct Jugti is very important in Naam Abhiyaas. Suggest listenning to Prabhu Prapti Marg video serios (60 episodes) dedicates to Naam Abhiyaas by S. Hardial Singh (Retd IAS). Â Â Â 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SriAkaalJiSahai Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 On 9/25/2004 at 8:38 PM, SAadmin said: So its a cycle - Va ( on Nabhi) Hi(on heart) Gu (on Kant) Ru(On Mastak/third eye) How do you go about doing this? Do you visualise each sound related to the area? So if I recite "Vaheguru" should I visualise each sound on the body part. If I say "Va" I should visually be focused on my navel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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