Infernal Monk Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 sorry but what is humai? but I have my reasons for thinking the way I do, sorry if it's not up to anyone's standard of what a Sikh should be..I don't really care..lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Khalsa Fauj Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 Ya man! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheena Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 Indeed, these are assumptions; this thread is full of assumptions, though. I'm just thinking out loud... Thousands of people, including babies and children, die each day because of starvation, disease or at the hands of criminals and thugs. I don't see most of us doing anything to stop these needless deaths even though our direct action could help save many of these lives. Yet, in this scenario, people are willing to go to great lengths, even sacrificing their own precious lives, to attempt to save a baby's life. Why do we not act in the former situations? I also hope that those who'd be willing to part with their kesh, and those who wouldn't, are not being influenced by humai. but we cannot take care of the entire world. but try our best to to do the right thing if it means saving someones life when it is presented infront of us. good thoughts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CK Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 I agree with Monk and everyone else - I think it would have to be circumstantial. I'm not sure what would tempt me to cut my hair, I have not experienced that temptation yet. Inshallah, I hope I never do! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhi Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 I know many of you will not like this question and many will think me mad... But would you cut your hair if Guru Gobind Singh told you to cut it? if guru sahib told you to cut your hair and you didn't, wouldn't you be engaging in "manmat"...? :? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tableji Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 yep, why wud guru ji tell u 2 go against gurbani?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakash Singh Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 if you jump infront of a car moving car and you die due to the injuries, which you most likely will, God wanted you to die...? Or was it you're own stupidity, you can't expect to be doing lots of dangerous things and expect to be saved, remember we also make our own karma here on this earth. If i recall rightly Shaheeds Sukha and Jinda also cut thier kesh to do the mission, but then let their kesh grow again afterwards...> In reply to the question, i'd do what i could if i was the last/only person left. Kesh will grow back, and one should be "big" enough to take the "paap" involved with this action. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 exactly what i was thinking about rakash 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tableji Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 did the gurus go ult from gurmat in order to save lives, or did they stick with it??guruji cud have performed miracles, but they didnt...why didnt they?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 lol - what is gur mat? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tableji Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 (im not even gna dignify that with a response lol) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Wasnt there a time wen Guru Ji was being hunted down by the Mughal Govt and he was dressed as Uch da Peer. Guru Sahib was passing through a place in ludhiana dressed as 'Uch da Peer'. (where there is now Gurdwara Kirpaan Bhet Sahib - which is looked after by Buddhal Dal Nihang Singhs). Suddenly Mughal Fauja surrounded Guru Ji and the Bhai Daya Singh Ji (Panj Pyara) and the other Singhs who were with him dressed as Muslims. There was a Mullah (muslim priest) with the soldiers and he had heard that Guru Gobind Singh was disguised and travelling through Ludhiana. He suspected that the Guru may have disguised himself as 'Uch da Peer'. The Mullah knew that Sikhs did not eat Halaal and so he requested the Sikhs who were dressed as muslims and Guru Ji disguised as Uch da Peer to eat meat and food with them. BHai Daya Singh said that the 'Uch da Peer' was fasting and could not take any food. The the Mullah said that if the Peer is fasting you could still partake in eating meat and other food with us. The Singhs came back to Guru Ji and told him about the situation. Guru Ji told the Singhs to do an ardas and before they ate the food and to put their 'Kirpans' through the food and to 'kirpan bhet' the food - much like we do today with langar food. The Singhs then ate this food and the fauja of the mughals left them alone. (As read off the board at Gurdwara Kirpan Bhet Sahib) 25. Gurudawara Kirpal Bhet Machiwara , Ludhiana - www.budhaldal.com is eating halaal not against gurmat? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tableji Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 stories or fact?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 check out Panth Parkash - havent got the page refernces put it should be just after the battle of chamkaur I will also check out soorah parkash by kavi santokh singh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tableji Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 yeah so will i... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artistformalyknownasodhi Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 well yeh it can, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 This story is documented by Giani Gian Singh in his Panth Parkash 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron-Singh Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 What was Giani Gian Singh's source? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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